Do you think these parents should be charged?

No, you're the one who's arguing pointless semantics while it's painfully obvious that the parents are guilty... of "negligence" or whatever the hell you might want to name it.

 

Treatment in that case clearly means medical treatment. If your child, or even your animal is sick for that long, is it the caretakers LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY to seek medical treatment. What other type of treatment for a sick child is there??

Not doing so, is a form of neglect, and should be punished by the legal system, just like any other form of neglect of a child.

What is so difficult to understand about that?

 

I raised both of my little brothers from the time I was ten til the time I was 17.

Two of my highschool girlfriends had children, the mother of my biological son has two more children that I care for as well. I'd taken child development courses throughout highschool as well as babysat for friends of my mom during highschool. I'm not new to this child thing one bit, thanks.

You guys are all stating what you would and wouldn't do if you have kids. You don't though. That's like telling somebody what you would do if you ran their business.

Some of you can't even manage your own lives let alone take responsibility for another life, yet you want to pass judgement on somebody who has?

Like I said, these people paid the ultimate price for their, "faith" already. I don't think they need an example made of them, legally, for other parents to stop and say, "Well....maybe that whole depending on God thing isn't the best idea. Looks like he's pretty busy these days."

Buncha fuckin saints we have here to be able to speak so harshly about the mistakes of others.

 

They're guilty of stupidity and nothing more. Which thankfully isn't a crime or all of us here would probably be repeat offenders, and plenty more would have already attained all three strikes.

 

You're not the only one who had experiece with children, many people do... you don't have to have children to be around children. It's that simple.

Hell, the fact that I haven't gotten anyone pregnant, that I'm going to school, and that I can support myself probably makes me more qualified to have children and to talk about children than a whole lotta people.

Your argument is pointless and illogical. If I know enough about how to run a certain business then I will surely point out the mistakes of a person who does not run it well.

I don't see how the hell you can call what those parents did a "mistake"... it's closer to a slow and painful murder.

 

Stupidity and nothing more?

Shit, if that's simple "stupidity" then I'm about to go and devote my entire life to making stupidity a punishable crime.

 

I've taken numerous child devolpment courses in high school and college as well. I have taken care of my younger brother just about every day growing up, as well as my god daughter and other children of friends, however, I see that as besides the point.

Anyone can look at such a situation and see that it was neglect that led to the death of a child- don't have to be a parent to realize that. Making mistakes is all fine and good and stuff, but when that mistake leds to a death the whole story changes.

 

I'll sign up to help you.

 

When a surgeon kills a child on the operating table it's called a mistake. And he's getting paid to heal. People TRUST him to heal their children.

These people TRUSTED God to heal their children.

It's simple as that. People place their trust differently.

Siamese twins conjoined at the head. Parents opt for surgery to seperate them and the children die. Being conjoined isn't fatal.....

Do you want them charged too? Or is it ok because they thought it was in the childrens BEST INTEREST?

We need consistency. If you would not charge those parents who decided on their childrens death over inconvenient life, than you have no right to say these parents should be charged for deciding on different means that were thought to be in the childs best interest.

This subject matter is too convoluted for all of these strict judgements.

 

Than why am I not the lone ranger on this one?

Not not ANYONE can do that. It takes a good bit of self righteousness and emotion to make that call, IMO.

 

Stupidity is no excuse if it involved the death, murder of a person.

 

How is prayer therapy any more ridiculous an idea than color therapy(which exists) and some of the other outlandish therapy ideas that are practiced in legitimate medical facilities across the country?

 

Pray to whom?

 

God hasn't healed a single child, while medicine has cured millions. You have responsabilities as a parent. I'm not saying that people shouldn't trust in god ad all of that shit, but they could just as easily pray in the hospital as the child is getting treatment.

I do not see any issue of consistency here. No one has stated that prayer can ever cure anything... it's not one of the "means".

 

I will be signing off for now, as I have more important things to attend to rather than debating with stupid Christians.
I will give you time to pray to your fucking God.

By the time I return, I will expect you to produce your fucking god.

Otherwise, it's just another proof that you fucking Christian morons are a bunch of deranged, psychotic ASSHOLES.

 

Niether prayer nor colour therapy can cure an insulin defiecency.

 

Haha. Christian morons? I'm Buddhist in belief and try to be Buddhist in practice and in life. I don't pray to any God but I recognize the right of others to do so.

I recognize the right of people to maintain their life and their family as they see fit, and I recognize that they will ultimately reap the suffering or the joy of their own decisions. This decision lead them to suffering because they did not think for themselves and base their beliefs on scientific findings and research as my religion would have me do. In no way does that constitute a crime in mine eyes, and in no way do I see any cause or resolve in their judgement and/or legal punishment.

To what purpose would you have these parents tried and convicted? What resolve or educational value does it hold? None I say. The circumstances and end result of their actions speak louder than any court ruling to anybody with a loved child. Their loss speaks louder than any jury as to their poor decision making. Their pain speaks louder than any judge about the consequences of their actions.

How would it make the world at all a better place to put grieving parents, who are very possibly good citizens, into a cage with true animals and criminals? There is no good to come from these ideas of punishing the punished.

 

The power of positive thought has scientific backing as to it's abilities on the human body by power of the human psyche.

Scientific findings are a better judge than ourselves at what is or isn't considered treatment, I would think. Not every treatment works in every situation, so to say this instance discounts scientific finding is to think small.

 

What?

First of all, that's bullshit. God can't cure an insulin defiecency. Positive thought sure does have some curing powers, but you cannot possibly base an argument on this.

Any and I repeat... ANY scientist, doctor, or reasonable human will tell you not to rely on the wonderful healing powers of positive thought if your child is sick for a month... the wonderful diagnosing powers of a doctor have also been scientifically proven. The amazing curing powers of an insulin shot have also been praised.

 

So you admit that positive thought is a logical form of treatment, and we differ in opinion on it's necessity and scope.

That being said, these parents did not neglect their child and in fact did attempt to treat them. They simply were foolish.

You seem to be missing the point, all of you, that I agree the child should have gone to the doctor, but it wasn't our decision to make, was it? They made their decision and suffered the consequences. That being said, I ask, again, to what resolve would you have them tried and convicted in a court of law?