I am interested in trying either 2-C-E, -I, or -B. I have tripped acid around 20 times and shrooms a few less (if that even matters). My question is not where to find these chemicals (although pms of suggestions are welcomed). I am wondering what is the smallest amount I could generally purchase online?
jesus who the hell would pay a dollar a milligram, those prices are hella fucked up every vendor I have ever seen has been between 100 and 200 a gram, I have never heard of a vendor doing a dollar a MG, you can find better sources than that on google.
The lowest amount I've ever seen is 250mg ($50-70), although there are some that sell lower. I'm also new to this, just placed an order for the first time a few days ago, 250mg of 2C-I .
both of those prices and amounts sound good. i'm still pretty apprehensive about all of this (ordering online, ingesting an UNresearched chemical...although i guess they must be somewhat safe...also how do you know how pure what you're getting is?...) well pharmaphunk, how was your experience? (ordering and ingesting)
I took around 20mg of 2c-i this morning, my first time tripping (other than a really small dob dose), by myself, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I was surprised at how short it lasted though. Maybe because I took it on a completely empty stomach, but from the time i ingested to the time i felt baseline was only about 5-6 hours (only have a full blown trip around 3hrs or so) , where as I've read that it lasts 8-10. Walking my dog around the neighborhood in the early morning, and going over to a nearby lake was amazing though. Walking felt suprisingly odd, and I my perspective of things was weird too. Thoughts were especially odd, but quite interesting and insightful.
Well ordering was quite simple, just make sure whatever vendor your ordering from his well recieved. Although I didn't test for purity, I trust the product is of a pure enough nature, meaning the dose suits the effect (since such a low dose is needed cutting it would be very noticable). Be very careful when measuring your product, eyeballing is generally not a good idea. As far as the expirence goes it was very intresting. Nice visuals, CEV and OEV shifting patterns and colours and the like, although It was not very insightful to be honest. I took a rather smaller dose so perhaps I'll up it up next time. All in all its a pretty good chem.
With chemicals such as 2C-B/2C-I you're going to need to invest in a mg scale. They can be acquired for about $50 on ebay
From what I've read on bluelight, you're going to need to spend around $200 to get a good mg scale, the cheap ebay ones can be pretty inaccurate/break easily. Weird, how much did you take? I found quite the opposite with my experience. Very little oev's, and i don't recall any cev's (i didn't really close my eyes at all though). However I found it to be fairly insightful, and a pretty nice mental experince. Gave me a different perspective on my life/things in general, but at the same time wasn't overwhelming and was very clear-headed.
i was gonna ask pharmaphunk how many milligrams you took as well. if i did get any of this, i would probably weigh it out in the lab at school...accurate to .0001 grams.
I took 12 mg exactly. I did have a pleasent thought flowing head, just not as intrapersonal as I'd imagined. I never closed my eyes either but I turned off all the lights in my room and I regard the completely dark room as CEVs because closing your eyes does the same thing. Sorry about my writing right now Im way to fucking drunk for this
Ya we have some pretty close measuring tables in our labs at school... I couldn't really suggest any good order suppliers... Not really lookin either (PMs are also welcome) but the 2c's are really cool....I am researching on the penal gland of the brain which excretes a chemical that makes you dream during your catalytic state. It's pretty cool.
^^^^sounds pretty neat. what do you go to school for? i'm about to get my bachelors in biochem and go on to get a ph.d. in molecular cell. care to elaborate on your research??? (of the penal gland or the 2-c's)
I actually go to school for Business Administration but have a lot of interests in chemical research and behavioral research. When you go to sleep, you body rests in a catalytic state (aka REM sleep). As you sleep, the penal gland in your brain secretes naturally reoccuring a chemical called DiMethel Tryptamine, "DMT." .....This also happens in near death experiences and of course, right before death. This is directly related to having a psychedelic trip and tapping into areas of your consciousness which you would normally not be able to do without this substance. It can be officially called a "day dream" when you activate the penal gland of your brain while you are awake, non-catalytic state. I have observed 2c's doing the same triggering of the penal gland. While one may consume a 2c compound, the penal gland in the brain secretes very fine amounts of DMT to relay all of the different perceptions you see while your awake. Just as your eyes reverse the images collected and then recreates that image into a picture that you can literally see, your brain alters the image, changing the way we perceive things...(such as color, frameshifting, depth-perceptions, etc) I plan on doing more studies on this case with the 2c's as soon as I find a place to get it (PMs only on that note) There is actually a very interesting book out by a doctor named Rick Strassman called "DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences" It is a very interesting read, and would recomend it to anyone interested in inhanced states of consciousness. And those who are interested in an advanced look at the brain and how the human mind works.