The Sanctuary is a joke

Its pretty funny how Christianity has its own special subforum to stay away from the dreaded athiests.... Perhaps the athiest section should have a "Library" or "College" (potential names) subforum to protect themselves from christian rantings?
Like, what about the other religious forums? Why do they not need protection? What is so special about the Christianity forum that they need to be protected and hushed away from the oh so terrible, blasphomous sinners and scientists?
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this before.

 

Because said Christians need a place to keep thier precious treasured lie safe. Jesus is not your redeemer, get over it. Jesus came to teach you the only way to save yourself. Rember the campaign only you can prevent forest fires? Well... only you can save yourself. You are the Christ to be in amnesia, get with the program.

 

thoughts hurt the brain conditioned to believe without thought
they have to run from all that provokes thoughts or theyre belifs will crumble or theyre brain explode under the sheer weight of defending nonsence with psychobabble
about canabiolistic zombies who are both father and son rapists of virgins who murder the ppl they suposedly love

see when they hafta think about theyre beliefs it hurts..soi they gotta run and hide to survive

 

As I understand it, the point of Sanctuary was not to protect Christians from non-Christians, but vice versa. Skip was concerned that we Chritians have a propensity to quote Scripture and proselytize, so we were moved to our own ghetto where we have (somewhat) more liberty to thump our Bibles without rankling those allergic to the Word.

 

On the contrary, some of the better discussion I've had have been with those who I don't agree with in the Sanctuary. Close textual analysis at its finest...

But yeah, Okie is definitely right.

 

um....


does this matter? I mean really?

 

ditto

 

so we have established that the sanctuary is NOT joke, and each religious forum should have it's own version of the sanctuary.

then the answer is not to take away or flame the christian version of the sanctuary, the answer is to give all the other religious threads the same treatment.

In other words, I still dont see the point of this thread. If you want to take down our sanctuary then you are antagonistic and accomplish nothing. If you want to gain ground for the other religious threads to have their own santuary, then you are in the wrong forum.

I.E. message skip, or take this to the other threads.

 

Yes of coure it matters. Why? Because I felt like writing it and I feel I have a valid point. Others may say its to protect everyone else, but then why does the Sanctuary say "For Christians ONLY"? Why wouldn't they want others in there?

 

wow you missed my point. I think its a joke the very idea that Christians have their own safe place, like they need it or something. There is a point to this thread, I made that point. I just think its silly. I posted it here for a reason. I'm not saying take the sanctuary down, because hey, if you feel you reeeealllly need it, thats your business... I just wanted to discuss it.

 

Believe it or not, not eveyone wants to constantly defend their faith. Some like to have discussions that do not leave that realm of that particular religion. That's why it's for Christians only.

You can bash and discuss Christianity all you like out here. Since you can do that, I dont see why it is such a joke for Christians to be able to discuss their views on their faith without having to defend it from name-slingers such as stev90.

One forum for the discussion of Christianity in general, and one forum for the Christians to discuss their faith without having to be harrassed.



You're right. I must have missed the point.

 

Take it up with Skip then, we didn't create it.

Acctually if i remember correctly some people back, way back, were lobbying skip for a usergroup, because as neodude said, we did not feel like defending our faith in every thread. But he created it. If you think it i a joke, PM him.

 

that's what I find funny. Other people have little or no problem defending their faith because they have valid arguments and are proud and educated about their faith. With Christianity on the other hand, everyone knows about all the hate, bigotry, and lies in the bible... so I'm sure its quite uncomfortable for Christians to argue for their faith when really they simply don't have any good arguments. In that case, yes, i can see why someone wouldn't want to argue about something they know they're wrong about.

 

so basically your saying that the reason we have the santuary, is because Christianity is so full of fallacies, so misinformed, so clearly ignorant, and so obviously wrong, that you find it funny that they have their own place to discuss their own faith without bothering anyone else, because in any other scenario they would crumble and cower before your infallible logic and reasoning.

So if Christians are not proud and educated about their faith, have no arguments, and it is common knowledge that everyone knows about all the hate, bigotry, and lies in the bible, then why do an estimated 2.1 billion people ( a third of the people on the planet) choose to define themselves as Christian?

And please dont even try to tell me that all those people are stupid/misinformed.

 

misinformed and lazy...conditiooned to let others think for them..be told what to think and believe
as i said..thinking hurts the christian mind

look at those 2.1 billion
threres a severe ignorance amongst them
most are so brainwashed theyd refuse to read anything not recomended by threure churches, theyre confortable believing in monstors and magic and invisible people as long as they can simply believe without putting much thought into it
theyre even confortable being told not to think...

the 1 thing that scares em though is having to think choose decide for themselves or to imagine a life without make believe fairies and goblins influencing theyre every action

 

You cannot prove or substantiate any of these claims. They are all based on subjective observation based on world views and actions you do not agree with.

i agree that SOME Christian pastors, reverends, and priests will dictate "good" and "bad" books to read, but it is hardly "most".

 

I am proud about my faith. I am one of the few Catholics i know outside of the little university chapel community and my fiancees family.

I have taken Religion 101 (Intro to World religions), Religion 211 (Early Christian Writings), I am in Religion 212 (Christian Traditions in History). I am enrolled, for next year, in Religion 314 (Jesus), Religion 415 (Advanced Studies in Christianity, most likely on Hiagiography, the study of saints). My first of two Theories and Methods of Religious Studies class spent the last third of the course discussing Jesus in early (first 3 centuries) Christian art. I would hardly call myself misinformed or lazy or unable to think critically about my faith.

I recently found out that the Catholic ban on birth control of any kind is heavily based from Thomas Aquinas, who felt that anything "unnatural" was a sin, and therefore any process that had sex in it but did not work towards conception was against nature, and therefore sinful. That is why according to him, masturbation is worse than incest, because at least in incest you can make a baby. Crazy guy, don't really agree with him too. Is he in heaven? The Church says so, but can I really know? No.

Why does the Muslim forum have no Muslims in it, well because hate-mongerers have hijacked it. If they had a "Medina"/Muslims only forum, would there be more showing their faces, possibly.

i would like to know what makes you an expert in religion? (Please note i am not claiming to be an expert, only that I do study religion [mostly Christianity, but also others])

 

over a year ago i challenged christians to deffend theyre belief without ressorting to mindlessly quotting nonsence bible quotes
not 1 dared to even attempt to...
if the religions bel;ievable its believeable through any language, not just random quotes

can you deffend your beliefs without just tossing around random quotes that make no sence?

 

Are you asking be to defend my belief in Christ or in a god?

 

Was probarbly created because alot of people here aren't very accepting of Christian beliefs, to say the least. And it was a nice thought. everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Arguing it out doesn't help anything, only makes our own ignorance that much stronger. And no i am not a christian, ashamed to say i am one of those people that feels a constant need to question them