Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

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    Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

    by CB_Brooklyn


    From the moment people thought that planes crashed in the World Trade Center, the brainwashing had begun.

    The “official” account of Boeing 767s striking the North and South Towers, at 400+MPH and 500+MPH respectively, became glued in peoples’ minds as “fact” because of the “tee-vee”. Good ol’ tee-vee. We all trust the media.

    Even in 1938, when Orson Welles directed a special Halloween radio broadcast of the novel “War of the Worlds”, millions of Americans believed Martians were invading earth. Everyone trusts the media! (As a side note, I’d like to advertise a new article by Andrew Johnson: “Mars Anomalies”)

    It should come to no surprise how the media affects peoples’ minds and our culture, and the media’s reporting of 9/11 is no exception.

    The 9/11 coverup perpetrators had their deceptive propaganda well planned. With their total control over the media they successfully conditioned most into believing their “19 boxcutter-wielding Muslims” story. People were overwhelmed; their brains saturated with the propaganda.

    November 10, 2001 - George W Bush brainwashes the world into thinking the idea of “inside job” is crazy: ”Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty.”
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/11/20011110-3.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ

    But the propaganda didn’t stop there. The coverup perps, the experts they are, knew some people would see through their “boxcutter” deception, so they crafted an alternate propaganda… specifically targeting those already suspicious of the “official” story.

    Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
    http://www.realnews247.com/fascism_disguised_at_democracy.htm

    This alternate propaganda is promoted by government plants within the “truth movement”, along with its fabricated evidence (such as molten metal). Of course, the media carefully publicize this “evidence” as a “wacky conspiracy theory”…

    November 14, 2005 - Tucker Carlson brainwashes the world into thinking the idea of an “inside job” theory is offensive. Steven Jones promotes the “alternate propaganda”:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10053445


    Yet, the coverup perpetrators use ridicule to keep the “REAL” version hidden…

    December 6, 2006 - Steven E Jones brainwashes the 9/11 “truth movement” into thinking the idea of directed energy weapons and no planes is “crazy disinfo”: “Of late, [Jim Fetzer] refers often to his association now with Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds. These two are noted for their no-planes-hit-the-Towers theories and for promoting the notion of ray-beams from space knocking down the Towers.”
    http://judicial-inc.biz/Steven_Jones_quits_911.htm

    Jones is one of many in and around the “truth movement” associated with Los Alamos where Directed Energy Weapons are researched. See here to learn how the 9/11 attacks, the 9/11 cover up, and the 9/11 "truth movement" were orchestrated by people associated with directed energy weapons and the media. Jones also suppressed free energy research in ways that mirror his 9/11 coverup:

    9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline
    By CB_Brooklyn
    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=151&Itemid=60

    Timeline of Events Involving Steve Jones, Crockett Grabbe and Steve Koonin
    By Russ Gerst
    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=162&Itemid=60


    If no-planes/TV-Fakery were “crazy disinfo”, why didn’t the media use it to discredit the “truth movement”? Here’s a video of Dr Morgan Reynolds on FOX News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQZT9Hzvt8

    Certainly if no-planes/TV-Fakery were “crazy disinfo”, the media would have invited Dr Reynolds back. Why didn’t they?

    On top of that, why didn’t the media report Reynolds’ or Wood’s court cases, represented by Attorney Jerry Leaphart?

    Dr Morgan Reynolds, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that the Media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane hitting the South Tower.
    http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=federal_case

    Docket No. 1:07-cv-04612-GBD
    Title: Dr. Morgan Reynolds ex rel. USA vs. Science Applications International Corp. et al.
    Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
    Judge: George B. Daniels


    Dr Judy Wood, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center.
    http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html

    Docket No. 1:07-cv-03314-GBD
    Title: Dr. Judy Wood ex rel. USA vs. Applied Research Associates, Inc. et al.
    Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
    Judge: George B. Daniels

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    UPDATE!!! While composing this article the author became aware of the following:

    New York Times
    “For Engineer, a Cloud of Litigation After 9/11”
    By Jim Dwyer
    February 23, 2008

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/nyregion/23about.htm


    The relevant quote is as follows (emphasis added):

    ”… one man has sued on behalf of the United States, claiming that Mr. Gilsanz is part of a vast conspiracy to cover up the truth about 9/11, including the “so-called building failures.” The lawsuit maintains that exotic weaponry actually destroyed the buildings, and that the airplanes were mass psychological trickery.”


    Wood and Reynolds have filed two separate lawsuits.

    No mention of Wood/Reynolds/Leaphart’s names in the Times article.

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    Let us review…

    The media (i.e. MSNBC):
    promote the “official” version as “the truth”
    ridicule the “alternate” version as the “offensive wacky conspiracy theory”
    shun the “REAL” version and court cases

    Plants in the ”truth movement” (i.e. Steven Jones):
    promote the “alternate” version as “the truth”
    ridicule the “REAL” version as “offensive wacky conspiracy theory”



    We can now understand why many “truthers” shy away from no-planes/TV-Fakery. Seems the 9/11 coverup perps tricked the “truth movement” with a well orchestrated plan of deception! Will these theories really “damage” the “truth movement”, or has the movement merely been tricked into thinking so?

    Many “truthers” often wonder why the mainstream media hasn’t broken the “inside job” story yet. The reason is simple: The 9/11 perps have not been exposed. (Check the “Suppression Timeline” linked above.)

    Only after the real 9/11 perpetrators are widely exposed with the media break!

    Will “truthers” finally start promoting no-planes/TV-Fakery? If the “truth movement” can’t admit their mistakes, why should the average person? People will simply continue believing what they feel most comfortable with: the “boxcutter” story. They don’t care about the evidence. Why should they? After all, the “truth movement” doesn’t. Or do they???


    How many “truthers” have looked at the no-planes/TV-Fakery evidence lately… evidence that anyone can understand?

    Below you will find a ton of evidence. Look it through… you maybe surprised!

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    Article is continued here:
    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=163&Itemid=60
     
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    I believe 9/11 was an inside job. If the war on terror hadnt begun because of the 9/11 attack, Bush wouldve been booted, but no. He got to stay because a war was going on - the one he created.
     
  4. ~Thought_Process~

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    thats cool and all but the video of the first plane hitting there is a flash right before the plane even hits it could be the air currents off the plane but i just dont know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6B7g6mt4Gk
     
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    Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to, added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north.

    "I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."

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  6. Kin Herring

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    ABC News Special Report: "Planes crash into World Trade Center"

    He never saw a plane like that before, because it wasn't a plane at all. He said it twice, corroborating witnesses like Burnback and Oliver who described a drone. It was identical to what hit the north tower.

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    "Yeah. I--I saw--yeah, I saw the second plane, it go boom. I--I heard, you know. I just wake up my head like that I saw the side, too"

    Arraki claims that the plane that hit WTC2 was identical to the plane that hit WTC1. Arraki's description of the first plane is reproduced below:

    "I saw it come up from the left, and I saw the plane coming through to the building, go inside, a small plane, no, no, it was plane, you know, like they teach the people to pilot plane, small plane, you know, it was that kind of plane, yes, going into the building, and I never saw that plane before. It's like something, I don't know, it's like they work with the motors, I never saw a plane like that before!"
     
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    CNN.com - Transcripts
    This man had a north view of the towers and saw the drone coming from the west.

    OK, we actually have an "Eyewitness News" reporter, Dr. J. Atlasberg (ph) who was downtown at the time and he is on the phone with us live.

    Dr. J., what can you tell us?

    DR. J. ATLASBERG (ph), REPORTER: Hello, Steve.

    I'm actually uptown at 86th and Riverside. I can see the World Trade Center from about half the building up to the top. And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane -- I did -- it looked like a propeller plane, came in from the west.

    And about 20 or 25 stories below the top of the center, disappeared for a second, and then explode behind a water tower, so I couldn't tell whether it hit the building or not. But it was very visible, that a plane had come in at a low altitude and appeared to crash into the World Trade Center.

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  8. Kin Herring

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    With the clear and overwhelming evidence of drones, it was inevitable that a few eyewitnesses would corroborate the video footage of drones for both towers. Stewart, said he saw something bump into tower 1 before it exploded. That certainly wasn't a plane, because a plane would crash into it, not bump.

    He says, "I'm not sure, if it was a ????? (plane). Of course it wasn't a plane, Stewy, and you gave the truth some of the best early testimony that no planes of any kind were seen for either tower because neither had wings. His subconscious gave every word, but 'plane', leaving no doubt that his conscious state prevented that last word. But, we already know those goofy french kids did not film a plane or really any identifiable object which corrorborates Stewart's verified account.

    Bryant Gumbel: It's 8:52 here in New York, I'm Bryant Gumbel. We understand that there has been a plane crash on the southern tip of Manhattan. You're looking at the WTC. We understand that a plane has crashed into the WTC. We don't know anything more than that. We don't know if it was a commercial aircraft. We don't know if it was a private aircraft. We have no idea how many were on board, or what the extent of the injuries are right now. We are, uh, we have, I understand, an eyewitness on the phone right now. Sir...

    [cuts to commercial briefly]

    BG: ...your name?

    Stewart: Yeah, my name is Stewart.

    BG: Sir, where are you right now?

    S: I'm working at a restaurant in Soho. (northeast of the towers)

    BG: Alright, so tell us what you saw if you would?

    S: I literally, I was waiting a table and I literally saw a -- it seemed to be like the small plane. I just heard a couple of noises. It looked like it bounced off the building and then I heard, uh, I saw a huge like ball of fire on top and then the smoke seemed to simmer down and it just stunned -- you know a lot of smoke was coming out and that's pretty much the extent of what I saw.

    BG: A private aircraft?

    S: I'm not sure, if it was a -- it just seemed like a smaller plane. I don't think it was anything commercial.

    BG: Did you, could you tell us whether or not it was a prop, or a jet .

    S: I honestly don't know. It happened too quickly

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    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../11/bn.01.html
    Now we want to bring in Todd Harris (ph). Todd on the scene, saw what happened.

    Todd, corroborates the Naudet footage, which captured a slow moving blob.

    Todd are you with us?

    TODD HARRIS: Yes, I had a perfect view, and the plane was coming in. I noticed it a second before it hit the building. It looked like it was moving slowly, and it lined itself up to hit the building directly.

    KAGAN: Are you talking about the first plane or the second plane?

    HARRIS: The first plane.
     
  9. Kin Herring

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    I was able capture the orb as it peeked out and then a quick edit occurs to well after the explosion. These guys did not see a plane and were confused as to how the south tower exploded. There's little doubt they made mention of the object and that audio would've been edited out too. There are countless videos with the impact edited out because they weren't going to insert fake plane images into all of them. You can see him pan to the right when the bogey caught his eye.


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    The 911 commission, properly and logically concluded that 175 had to fly over New York Bay in its final seconds, therefore, any object seen west of the towers could not be flight 175. The shadow between the towers seen in three broadcasts is that of the drone because logically and officially it could not have flown east of T1 in its final 3-5 seconds, which is required to create the shadow.

    Any denialist who uses the unofficial flight path of 175 cirlcing Newark is ignoring the official flight path which has 175 nowhere near it, whether north or south of it in flight. Officially, fake 175 never circled Newark, but most of New Jersey, and anyone who suggests it did, is a liar.

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    The truth is the lie, and the lie is the truth. No commercial airliner impacted either tower on 911, but small remote controlled drones were used to trigger bombs planted inside the towers. Very obvious fake imagery was aired on TV which the average person had no knowledge or reference with which to understand what they were seeing was failed computer generated imagery that didn't produce a single image that came close to depicting a real boeing 767.

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    WB11's, wackadoodle coverage of a flying bomb and failed computer graphics

    "A lot of ah, uncertainty right now as to what is happening, you can see there are choppers--I believe that could be a police helicopter that is co...oooh."

    She only mentioned choppers being in the area after the drone came into frame. She was stunned and shocked when the tower exploded because what appeared on screen had no wings or propeller, which is the very reason she said it only might be a chopper. She used the smallest aircraft that most people would be familiar that fit closest in size to the unknown flying blob. She could have said it was a green concord, but its unknown status would remain for anyone dealing in reality.

    "We just saw another (long pause because she did not describe a plane) live picture of, duhhh, what I believe, duhhh, was a plane that just hit another plane?" So, it went from an unidentifiable chopper, to, duh, what she knew had to be a plane, because that's what was supposed to happen, but didn't.

    She first described it as what might be a police helicopter and after she realized it caused the explosion, changed her thoughts in that moment. These women literally got trapped in the twilight zone. If it wasn't a helicopter, (no propeller) it certainly could not have been a plane. She simply repeated what it was supposed to be, but the orb was shown at least six more times and was described as a plane or twin engine jet.

    The first computer generated image was first shown only one minute after the last orb. You can see the time change to 9:27. The fake image is so poor that it has no wings and two dots for engines. Notice the bogey move directly east and cgi more left/north.

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    Four flying bombs were captured on film and survived without alteration. The only inconsistency is chopper 4 disappears behind the top of tower 1, while the other three are lower but at the same level. Here they are in this order; NY1, WB11, CBS, and Chopper 4, aka WNBC. Only the CBS bogey did not air live. The Today Show aired the orb but changed camera angles before it could complete its path to explosion.

    The final 14 seconds of approach by the 911 commission was south to north, not west to east. The drone/orb cannot visually be a chopper or plane and its float path would have crashed into the west side of T2, not southeast corner. The drone literally circled the towers just like Matt Lauer said after he saw it.

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    Mark, cryptically laughs at the end of his description, further proving that he was describing the slow moving drone, and falling short of confirming that it really wasn't a plane. It's no different than Jean Hill saying she saw the secret service shooting back, but falling short of fingering the driver. Of course it didn't belong in the area because it was a drone and not the boeing 767 it was supposed to be.

    Eyewitness on 9/11 Mark Burnback was able to get a good view of the plane that hit the World Trade Center, because he said that the plane was flying very low. He explained to FOX News that the plane had no windows, a blue logo, and did not look like a commercial plane.

    Fox NewsCaster: "Mark Burnback, a Fox employee, is on the phone with us. Mark witnessed this... Mark were you close enough to see any markings on the airplane?"

    Mark Burnback: "Hi gentlemen. Yeah there was definitely a blue, circular logo on the front of the plane towards the front. It definitely did not look like a commercial plane. I did not see any windows on the side. It was definitely very low...

    "Mark, if what you say is true, those could be cargo planes or something like that. You said you did not see any windows on the side?"

    Mark Burnback: "I did not see any windows on the side. I saw the plane was flying low. I was probably a block away from the sub-way in Brooklyn and that plane came down very low, and again it was not a normal flight that I have ever seen at an airport. It was a plane with a blue logo on the front and it just looked like it did not belong in this area."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUs9u1YwV0
     
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    Do you have any idea what you're going to bring down on yourself?

    Think Custer . . . :)
     
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    If you don't see the wings or scale of those objects in your own post, I don't know what to say. You've toasted your brains.

    I watched it live that morning. Plane two was clear as day, with all the cameras on the scene by then.....

    Now, there was obviously, at the least, executive failure and misbehavior, bush had been warned of this, the FBI had been warned of the terrorists learning to fly at a florida flight school, but not caring about landing. It was mis-handled later, with a hasty clearing of rubble in illegal ways. But the idea that there was no plane is retarded, especially when you post all these clear pictures of...... planes.

    I guess you've never seen a jumbo jet, but I've seen a few, and a few more, after your clear pictures of them. Do you really expect people on the ground in a loud (and then, loud and paniced) city to hear a plane until there's shit falling around them?

    What the fuck do you think happened to the missing planes? Did dick cheney drop those teeth out of a hole in his pants while strolling through the wreckage?
     
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    Looks like I have to repost this video again:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFiEgwLQVJk"]9/11: WTC South Tower Plane Crash - YouTube

    Anyone with any common sense should agree that denying the existence of planes is RETARDED! Planes did attack the buildings so then the idea of detonation is also retarded. Detonation infrastructure would have been impossible to set up and hide in front of thousands of people and then leave no evidence behind. There are reasonable, logical, and scientific videos available that explain the whole collapse.
     
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    The eyewitnesses that matter are the ones on the ground that can be corroborated by some level of consistency, particularly with news footage. The orb aired consistently coming from west of the towers on ny1, cbs, wb11, and wnbc. That hangs together on its own and can be argued independent of the official myth of planes flown by silly arabs.
     

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