mohammed and internet

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  1. myself

    myself just me

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    A shocking piece of news:



    RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, March 31 (UPI) -- A Saudi woman's alleged death at her father's hands has been cited by a Muslim cleric in his criticism of the Internet social networking site Facebook.

    The Saudi news site said the Riyadh woman was beaten and shot by her father after he discovered her engaging in an online conversation with a man on Facebook.

    "Facebook is a door to lust and young women and men are spending more on their mobile phones and the Internet than they are spending on food," he said.
     
  2. Rainbowtoke

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    Welcome to third world religion and thinking.
     
  3. AquaLight

    AquaLight Senior Member

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    This is but a taste of Saudi Arabia
    I am glad my memories of living in that place for a few years are almost gone.
     
  4. Alkaloidpun

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    LOL @ third world "religion"< FYI, christianity is much more of a third world religion and ignorant than Islam. Islamic countries were one of, if not the most advanced religio nand empire from the seventh century and onward for many hundreds of years. this is common fact and can be looked up. Christianity as areligion prohibited science as the work of teh devil, christianity's religious murdered more peopel senselessly than Muslims, a perfect exampel of who the peaceful peopple are is to look at both sides accepted "holy warriors"< Islam- the Mujahideen, Slahadin, ect ect, and Christianity - Crusaders and fierce supporting of teh zionist movement. the Mujahideen have never started any war, they haev never acted in aggression, while the zionists and crusaders, teh crusaders led what, three crusades? killing unbelievably humungous numbers of Jews ,Muslims, raped women, and slayed babies and painted crosses on tgheir forehaeads, an aact adopbted by the Serbian Christian fundamentalists in Bosnia, during which once again Christian fundamentalists massacred nearly 10,000 Muslim children, and civillian family men in teh worst genocide i neurpone sicne world war 2. the crusaders led three long, and bloodthirsty campaigns against Islam and teh Muslims, and even Jesws ,whenever the Crusaders captured Jerusalem, they not only killed all Muslims AND Jews who corossed their paths, but they exhiled any others who might be living in Jerusalem, and they(crusaders) broke nearly every truce they ever had with Salahadin and the Muslim Mujahideen, so they killed and ethnically cleansed all Muslims and Jews out of Jerusalem, entirely, no exceptions, prixsoners of war were killed going against the promises. contrary to that, the Muslim holy warriors, Salahadin and his people, gained Jerusalem back every single time, and even after the crusaders killed all Muslim and Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem, and broke the treaty that both sides swore to, with no remorse. even after thsi, tthe Mujahideen reconquered Jerusalem, and after capturing the land, released all prisoners of war save for very few, adn I mena completely RELEASED them, soem of thenmm Salahadin himself had to pay to free. and all Christian and Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem were allowed to live tehre adn keep their homes, lives, and. now this is the true and factual history of a few widely recognized and respected Islamic and Christian civilizations and empires, you think over these facts and then tell me how in the world Christianity is in any way better, or (laughably) somehoew "more advanced" or civilized. name the last time a Muslim country invaded a non muslim land? not sicne a LOOONG time ago. then think of the last time a christian nation invaded nto just one other land, but invaded several within a few years, and thats in THIS last 10 year period. the last time a Muslim nation acted in AGGRESSION, and atacked ANY other country, but unprovoked? not for a LOONG time.

    Islam teaches very high morals, and only drug addicts, drug abusers, adulterers and adultresses, sodomites, thiefs, and rapists could even disapprove of Islamic Law, let alone disliek it. half of these BS honor killigns are false. a father who kills his daughter for ANY reason, OTHER than because she killed somebody, or was spreading mischief i nthe land, then he is looked at by God on Allah(SWT) as if he were the murderer of all of mankind. and if anyone saves an innocent life, it will be as if this person had saved the lives of all of humanity on judgement day. this is Islam's stance on murder. and murder is punishable by murder. an eye for an eye, if you do not believ i nthis sort of Law to be humanity's law, then you should learn yourself.

    rape is punished by murder, murder is pnsished by murder, theft is punished, adultery is punished, as we saw from the "girl from Qatif" case, where teh girl confessed to havign a sexual and adulteress relationship with her highschool friend, and then both here male partner with whom she cheated adn her both were punished with a hundred lashes. thse thigns have to be punished or the peopel will think theyre just fien to do, liek i nAmerica, that is why adultery, drug use, prostitution, alchoholism, is so prevalent that its actually the norm. and you call Saudi Arabia third world? and Islam a third world religion? what? the Muslims were the ones who developed Algebra, very much of Trigonometry, Astronomy, the "0", and countless other world impacting things. but litte credit is given to them because teh western media takes Islam otu iof its context entirely. the Prophet Muhammad sallalahu alayhi wasalam and Allah in the Qur'an, taufght us tha tal lraces are equal, and no one color is betetr than an other, but Allah scans our hearts, and the most pious is the mostrighteous before Allah, Islam 1,500 years ago entirely abolished racism, Islam and teh holy Qur'an denounced slavery and urged anyone any where to free theiir slaves and other slaves whenevr possible, adn that freeing a slave was a deed greatly rewarded by God. the prophet himself was one of the most gentle and honest and peaceful people that ever existed. he only wanted to allow Islam to be, and he and his followers were persecuted, tortured, and kicked otu of their homeland, and even then when the pophet and his followers returned from Madinah to Mekkah to regain the land, and establish Islam as opposed to the pagan society whic hkilled newborn infants as sacrifices and worshipped nakedly. and after this, after the prophet Muhammad with 10,000 of his saints(holy Muslims) arrived in Mekkah, the pagans who persecuted Muhammad and his followers gave up, they were afraid of the prophet's and of Allah's army, they laid down their weapons , and they asked Muhammad after he had already conquered Mkkah and the land was in his control, what would he do wit hthem, the holy prophet may peace always be upon him said that all the disputes, and all the injustices of the past were under his feet, IE, forgiven. so he forgave the huge Mekkan(pagan) army and allowed them to live their lives but only under a moral code, ie, Islam, no rape, mno more killign children, no more worshippign hundreds of goods who whispered to them to committ these disgusting acts they as pagans were comitting, no forced conversiosn, not one, and the peopel all gradually accpeted Islam, and not one single person was killed durign the conquest of the holy city of Mekkah, not one significatn person harmed, and no blood spilled, this, whci hin itself was basically the conquer of al lof Arabia, this to my knowledge is one of the only completely peaceful conquests, and a perfect exampel for us today and the past generations, thye prophet's exampel, as set forth in this factualy historic event, is the perfect example, and is the entire half of Islam, the Hadith,, next to Allah's Mesage and Final Testament the holy Qur'an.

    not much later, pretty much the entire middle east was conquered by this one man and this onty Messenger. could one single, illiterate, man in the middle of teh desert take over not only the entire middle east by HIMSELF(ofcourse unseen was Allah and His angels who instructed the prophet in everything, which most logically is wh the prophet and Allah's slave army were able to take over so much of the world. the Islamic empire freed more slaves than any other peopel of any other religion, while some outlaws may have had and traded many slaevs, these were the civilizations the prophet Muhammad predicted would become corrupt eventually. the Islamic empire completely abolished slavery, entirely, a black man 1,500 years ago had one of the most honored Job's and Positions in the history of Islam, the Arabs were jealous and said how could a freed black slave have this position over us O Messenger? the prophet then was compelled and Inspired by Allah to memorize a verse after enterign a Divine daze listenign to the ringing bells which transmitted teh Words from Allah, and this holy Quranic verse again denounced racism and Allah again explaiend to us that colors and creeds have no smeaning, it is our good or bad nature that we are judged on, out piety, not color, and we aree equal befoe Allah, as He said.

    so, to finish this lecture, and I pray that al of you who read this actually read through everythign that I've said in this post ,becasue I swear by my mother's life that this is entiely true, and is complete and utter fact, please, take a break from the false informatio that the hateful satanic websites the like of "daniel pipes.com" and "jihad watch" contain. this which I just posted is the factual history of Islam and Islam's holy warriors and scholars.

    the Islamic empire, led by one man who was guided by Allah Almighty, conquered a very huge portion of the world, including Spain, much of Europe, Bosnia, India, Indonesia, Portugal, Turkey, were all Islamic emrires, and were all completely connected. could a "third world religion" conquer this much of the world, and in as civilized and honorable a way that anyone ever could? al lcivillians were unharmed, nobody was forced to convert, and nobody was exhiled out of their land if the paid the obligatory tax that they shoudld pay, seeing how the Muslims always already payed just as much of a ta as they did, if not more. so it is only fair everybody in nation pay taxes, it happens here in America even, we all pay taxes. while teh chrioistain empires, includign the early church ie constanine and his chuempire, killed Muslims, Jews, and even chmontheositic Christians who refuse t ofollow teh blasphemy oF thE tirninity or the HERESY of Jesus "beign god", a man cannot be god, a man cannot save another man as the Bible tells, you, Jesus was God's slave as the Bible tells you, Jesus was Allah's slave and Prophet, PBUH, like teh Bible says.


    and this is a bad or third world religion to you? without this third worl dreligion, and without these "third worl d people, yor civilization today and the west wouldnt be anywhere.

    Islam, and the Muslims ,developed Algebra, the ydeveloped much of trigonometry, they developed very much of astronomy, the Qur'an Itself, 1,500 years ago, actually provided scientificv knowledge that people that no human beign could pprove until 50 years ago. and this is 100 percent fact, I would bet a huhndred dolalrs that I could prove the QQur'an to be divine o just luckier than every billionaire i nthe world put together.

    point beign, Islam is not a third world religioon, but the most honorable and truthful and disciplined and righteous religion that there is. these iindividual killings and "honor killings" and all the other nonsense is against Islam, please do not take anybody's word for it except a non biased Islamic scholar or an Islamic scholar all Islam requires is, 1. Be a humble, mpodest person, never opress anyone or look down on anyone, superiority is only in piety. 2. pay charity to the poor, to the homelss, this is an official requirement Allah to His slaves in Islam(Subkission to God's will = Islam), pay chairty, 3rd. recognize that therei s only one singular true God wo is Lord of all things, 3. recognie that Angels, whic hare made of light, do exist, and acknowledging the fact that the original Injil, aka, the "Bible" ,in its original form in which Jesus was procaliemd a slave of Allah, and His messenger, PBUH, and no savior of anybody BUT himself, God is our Lord and his ;Lord, as Jesus himself said in the Bibel, TO acknowledge tha tthe originally revealed is/was a holy Book revealed by God unto Isa aka Jesus (pbuh) B. to backnowledge that the Taurat aka the Torah, thE "Old Testament'< in its rooriginal Form, was a divine book revealed by God to Moses, PBUH, adn lastyl to acknowledge that the holy and noble Qur'an, is Allah's final Revelation to mankind, seeign how teh christiasn and jew went astray ,the christians worshipping Jesus Christ the "Messiah" as God Himself instead ofGod's servant liek he himself nad nGod hHimself explained to us manyu times, and teh Jews having rejected the prophet Isa(Jesus pbuh) as a prophet and calling him a bastard and a child of sin(no father because his mother slept with a Roman soldiers i na one night stande type of thing, and this is fro mthe Talmud, which the Jesus consider the second, or if I remember correctly tthe Jews consider the Talmud as their holiest book.

    yet Islam is third world? Islam is and was teh onyl relgiion to teach racial equality before God, the only religion to require us to do good deeds, pray to God almighty at every turn of the day, the only relgiion that taught us to free slaves whenev possible ,the only religion to teeacdh that a murderer is punished by death, a thief is punished harshly in return, an adultrer/adultress is punished likewise, the only religion tghat teaches that wwe are not allowed to ever force anyone to convert to Islam, but let them live i ntheir homes and keep theuir ereligions, only requirign them to pay a somewhat(federal like) tax, which Muslims were also reqwquired to pay but moreso t othe poor, adn all of thes etaxes, even the nonbelievers i nMuslim lands, all their taxes went to hte poor/homeless, ie, it was charity.

    so, if everybody were Muslim and would have been Muslims since Allah reinstored it into our hearts through the holy prophet, then there wouldnt have been any rapes whatsoever, there would have been absolutely no slavery because all slaves would have been freed ,there would have been no adultery, no women or men cheating o ntheir S/O and infectign them with horrible diseases and thus spreadign it tothe world concluding in aids and all types ok heartbreajking sicknesses. there wouldnt haevbeen one death of one civillian, no theft,and worship of God and God as oen God alone would have been instored , and high morals were to have been introduced, we would all have been prayign every day for spiritual happiness.

    adn Islam isa third world country? I;ve beenn a Muslim my enire life, bor nadn raised in Bosnia then came to Chicago because teh christian fundamentalists/terrorists wit hthe suppot of nato, adn whonot attacked a defenseless Muslim nation adn tried to kil lits whole populatio nadn killed soem hundreds of thousands of civillians, smae thign jews did t opalestinias. but the holy Mujahideen came and helped us, and saved our lives, yet stilll today, for whatever political reason America might have, they claim the Mujahideen who were the only men brave enough to come and help and save a defnenseless nationm from a war started by Christian fundamentalists in an effor to ethnically cleanse al lMuslims i nBosnia, not the only reaso nteh Bosnians had no weapons to defend themselves with, is because the Americ and teh United nations placed an arms embargo on Bosnia, ofcourse only the MUSLIM Bosnian government, whic hmean tthat we were not legally allowed to obtai na single weapon to defend ourselves for a war we, and teh west KNEw as coming, so we had no weaponry becasue the western UN denied us our right to obbtain soem kind of weaponry to defend ourselves against the kknown future plan for the genocide, yet they kept this arms embargo on Bosnia for the entire war! WTF? the UN AND AMERICA KNEW! they knew that the sebrian christian government of bosnia had all the weapons the Yugoslavia as a whoel had before, s othey knew that the serbs ahd weapons and they knew that the bosnians had nothing at asll, yet they still forbid us any military or financial aid, or any way to btain a way to defend ourselves. this folks, is teh true history that I've lost half of my family because of ,I swear t oGod. and then the Mujahideen started helping us, sending us money illegally, smuggling in weapons illegally, and Iraq, Arabia, and even Osama binLadin sent a few thousand Mujahideen fighters to help us ddefedn ourselves, adn these Mujahideen;'s adn Islamic nations help and aid, was the only reason us Bosnians were even able to fight for the entire duration of the 4 year war. and teh nwhen we had our Muslimggovernment richer, had our army properly equipped and trained, and we were truly taking over town afetr town, village after village, then the west stytepped in ,AFTEER the Muslims had started WINNING the war and gained 50 % of their land back, leaving us with around 55-60 % of the land, and still goign strogn probably would have taken abck teh entire BIH if teh west wouldnt haev intervened FTER 8,000 Muslims children and civillian men were killed in a few hours or a day.

    and now, how disgusting can they be, the wets and america declares these Mujahideen who were theonly ones to save our entirew nation, "terrorisst", teh American government and teh Americna peopel who support the theft of Israel, the occupation of Palestine and teh teheft of palestinian ladn teh ethnic cleansing of hndreds of thousands of palestinians, and who support the iraq war which 80% of iraqi civilians say they want the US out right now or they support military attacs of teh US. no who is the terrorist?

    please, study Islam, not from danielpipes.org of jihadwatch.com, but go to an Islamic Introduction website where they teach you based on the afcs, based o nthe context, and based on the teachigns what Islam is, how it started, and just what Islam is, who the holy prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam, is, and what Islam teaches fundamentally. "I bear withness that there is no god but God", isa declaration of complete nootheism ,you declare that theere is no god besides "the" [only] God, this is a beautiful phrase, secondly is "and that Muhammad(saw) is His Messenger. now if you know what Muhammad taught, it was that we are all equal before God, we are all sons of Adam, PBUH, and superiority is ONLY in piety and/or righteousness, that we shuld allhave freed slaves whenever we were able, because it wasa great and pious act that Allah would reward greatly, that we should all never be arrogant nad be humblei and modest ineverythign we do, taht we should never harm our neighbors, and to only speak good and never negatively. insulting , cursing, etc etc. andto be dutiful to God and to our parents.

    who in their right midn can deny sucha percect religion? and who in the world can lie to himself and to others and claim Islam is violent and some other lies they tell to tarnish Islam's message, while lokign at websitesdecicateds to spread lies and insult Islam. please, look at a neutral surces explanation of Islam, iof you dont want to look at an Islamic websites introduction to Islam.


    just read the first two chapters of the Qur'an, it should be clear to you that Islam is a Holy Religion revealed by God Almighty, Allah, "Allaha"" as Jesus called him in Aramaic.


    Subhan'Allah.
     
  5. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Yea, and the Saudi government (i.e., royal family, as there is no democracy in the country-oops, I thought we were in favor of democracy) is Bush and co.'s best friends in that part of the world, in spite of the fact that 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi (not one was Iraqi), as well as Osama Bin Laden himself (who comes from a prominent Saudi family). But isn't it curious that the US governement never accuses the Saudis of supporting or being soft on terrorism? Why? Becuase the Saudis have more oil than anyone else in the world, and we have access to it, so it's in our 'national interest' to remain best friends with them, regardless of how backward, barbaric and undemocratic their government and culture may continue to be. What a bunch of total hypocrisy.
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Alkaloid-How about those of us who wish to enjoy freedom FROM religion?Will your religion leave us alone?
     
  7. jneil

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    Does Islam protest with, or against these people?


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  8. om98

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    first of all u must respest our messenger mohmmad


    then ofcouers it is bad thing what happen in this story and does not represent the magiorty

    we have rules in our islam and if u dont like it is yr free but also it is mine to believe wat i want.

    our islam respect woman more than any other else

    we dont use woman as thing u do , like wat u do in porn and fashion wen u use woman body just for money

    u have thousends of factory which produse porn movies and we dont have one , so who degrade woman
     
  9. om98

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    1. i lis in operh show that 90% of american husbends are chearter
    2. 60% of fathers in america do not sure if they are really the father to her children
    3. we do not have AIDS only in very few condation
    4. we dont have teenager pregnancy , how many child in america younger than 12 is pregnant , many many of them
     
  10. om98

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    hahahahah

    the majiorty of american people was against the war on iraq but the terroist bush do it any way so dont talk about democrasy

    >>>>>>>>>>


    this yr freedom this yr people , terroist disgusting

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  11. om98

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    this yr freedom this yr people , terroist disgusting

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    and after of all that u talk about muslim
     
  12. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I believe any young person can be made to believe anything that is taught to them,especially if that is all they are exposed to.The lack of a general education around the world has dulled many minds to the possibilities concerning what we ,as humans, in our limited understanding of the nature of existence ,can accomplish in our present forms.You say allah is the only way humans can have life after death and you are willing to fight and die for these ideas you have been exposed to all your life.There have been and and are christians who feel the same way about their beliefs.How long has this been going on?Was it manifested thusly before languages were developed?Have devotees of these beliefs acted in a civilised manner throughout history??What is the differance in the pictures you showed(despicable for sure)and the stoning to death(despicable for sure) of young people for having feelings for one another?Do you think a believer in allah will,in fact ,get to have sex with virgins by gaining martyrdom after killing innocent humans?Will the female bombers also get 72 virgin men/boys?Why are your women required to wear those horrendous looking bee-keeper suits?Why are you so afraid of women.These religious ideas that are force-fed to people have in no way made human existence easier for any of us ,except the ones' that lay down the laws and benefit from being "the ones' that lay down the laws" with the concomitant perquisites -ie=wealth,privelige,power over others.Would you kill me if I don't believe as you?I cannot blame you for believing as you do--it's all you know and all you CAN believe.Please do not expect me to believe what you believe.Same with any and all other force-fed ideas including christians.
     
  13. myself

    myself just me

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    I don't have anything against religion... It's just that a father killing his own daughter -no matter what she had done- is murder. How can one kill his own child and feel good about it??
     

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