Friends and Weed!

I need some help. I've been toking up quite frequently lately, and now some of my good friends are getting upset with me about it. I want to try to explain to them that it really isn't that bad. But i dont know what to tell them. Any advice?

 

Quit smoking it and get over your meterialisticism. That is a noble truth, of course.

 

who cares what your friends think, if they dont let you be free then there not good friends, thats what i think.

 

Just try and remember that they're only saying it becuase they care about you. We may know that pot isnt the demon weed it's made out to be, but unfortunately a lot of people are still caught up in the prohibitionist propaganda.


If you've tried explaining to them, and they still don't believe you then i don't see that there is much more you can do. Just try not to smoke so much in front of them, or maybe even don't let them know how much you smoke. I know thats deceitful, but what they don't know can't hurt them eh?

Also, don't let weed get in the way of your real freindships. In the end, friends are more important than weed, and if you think you're alienating your friends then you should really think about smoking less.

 

Weed hurts you... it makes you less active... (or what you would call "mellow")... If it affects your friendship, stop. You can always smoke at your own time by yourself whenever you want, just do not expose your friends to your unecessary habit.

 

Rubbish. Weed doesn't make you less active. A lot of stoners don't do much, but thats becuase of a lack of will power, or just a lazy personality. Its not the weed, its the people.

 

That's why they reffer to the weed... it's an excuse for being worthless wastes of oxygen.

and it does affect you, to qoute the NIDA:

"Within a few minutes of inhaling marijuana smoke, the user will likely feel, along with intoxication, a dry mouth, rapid heartbeat, some loss of coordination and poor sense of balance, and slower reaction time. Blood vessels in the eye expand, so the user's eyes look red.
For some people, marijuana raises blood pressure slightly and can double the normal heart rate. This effect can be greater when other drugs are mixed with marijuana; but users do not always know when that happens.

As the immediate effects fade, usually after 2 to 3 hours, the user may become sleepy. "

 

one of my most favorite expressions of all time may be able to help here

"dont knock it till youve tried it"

 

Well i'm not excusing lazy fuckers. All i'm saying is that its not weed that makes them lazy, it's just the way they are. Prohibitionists have just managed to create a bullshit stereotype of stoners being lazy bums who go nowhere with their lives. It's rubbish, almost all of my friends smoke regularly, yet they're all off doing amazing things with their lives in various corners of the world.

And no shit weed has an affect just after you smoke it. It's called getting stoned... Thats a short term, not long term affect.

And it's not even always true to say weed makes you lazy even in the short term. It depends on the strain. Obviously some will give you the heavy, sofa lock, stoned feeling. That makes you lazy. Other strains however will give you an upbeat, mental high which actually gives you energy. Did you know that Jamaican field workers used to be given marijuana as a way of increasing productivity?

And NIDA talk crap. The least biased drug website on the net is erowid.org. It's independant and not for or against drugs, its there merely for information (although, i do admit that it has an occasional pro weed stance).

 

When I reffer to stoners, I speak of the people with a psychological addictiveness to cannabis.

Here are Erowind cannabis negatives, they are not more biased to either side than any other source.

NEGATIVE

• nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives
• coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems
• difficulty with short term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use
• racing heart, agitation, feeling tense
• mild to severe anxiety
• panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much)
• headaches
• dizziness, confusion
• paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent
• possible psychological dependence on cannabis
• clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses
• can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders<

Just the swame level of unproductivity.

The Jamaican workers needed to be given marijuana because they were already psychologicly dependent on it as a kind of stimulant.

 

Those are almost all short term affects, which occur only while you are stoned though. Smoking weed does not make you any less productive, except for the time when you are actually stoned.


I've gone through many phases of daily smoking without any suffering any motivation problems. So have my friends. Thats all the proof I need.

I'm not saying weed is harmless (i think its very bad for depression and anxiety if you are already that way inclined), but I am saying it doesnt mess with your motivation.

 

It does mess with certain people's motivation, as you said.

Yet, most people result to weed to "escape", you may be different, but I am attempting to make an assumption here.

 

Uh, where did I ever say it messes with anyone's motivation? I'm saying it doesn't...

And that whole escape thing is rubbish as well, more propaganda. A small minority may use it as an emotional crutch (which is obviously not going to help). But the vast majority don't. Again, its not the drug, but the individual who is to blame.

 

But i think we'll have to agree to disagree. You obviously don't like weed which is fair enough, but neither of us will convince the other so there doesnt seem to be much point debating it.

 

You said that those individuals were lazy themselves, which is a lack of motivation.

I like weed, periodicly, yet I do not like people who smoke it exxesively and use that as an excuse to be lazy.

 

Yeah, but i meant they were just naturally lazy people. As in, an innate personality flaw. Not that weed made them lazy.

But yeah, I also hate people who use weed as an excuse for lazyness, because it is just that, an EXCUSE. They give responsible smokers a bad name. It's not weed, its the person.

 

I agree...but those people use weed as a further excuse to remain unproductive.

Everyone has the capacity of motivation. Some use weed as an excuse to not explore that capacity.

 

Yes, but again, thats the person choice. It's not as if using the drug means they are unable to be a productive member of society.

Again, it's the PEOPLE who CHOOSE to be lazy, its not weed MAKING them be lazy. Weed does NOT affect motivation.

If these lazy bum potheads weren't sitting arounf smoking up, they'd be sitting around watching TV or something.

 

They are potheads, which contributes to thier lazyness. They have built an entire culture surrounding the development of thier lazyness through pot.

Anyhow, I must go to bed. Cheers for the good conversation.