The Sanctuary is a joke

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by XBloodyNailPolishX, Apr 6, 2008.

  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    yikes she walked right into that one.
     
  2. SpreadneckGA

    SpreadneckGA Member

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    Blanket statements about any group are seldom correct.
     
  3. Zhyppers

    Zhyppers Member

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    All republicans are humans.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    wrong again.

    my pet cat has very conservative view points.
     
  5. Zhyppers

    Zhyppers Member

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    ..Conservative and Republician mean the same thing? Let me write that down.
     
  6. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    republicans are generally known for having mostly conservative views.
     
  7. SpreadneckGA

    SpreadneckGA Member

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    they have drifted apart in the last 20 yrs...
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    generalization. gtfo.







    jk.
     
  9. Hryhorii

    Hryhorii Member

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    And if you want tot get really technical, republicans can either be liberal or conservatives. I'd hardly call the republicans of france during the revolution conservatives...
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    We're talking contemporary U.S. Republicans. In the 50s & 60s, moderate and even liberal Republicans were a real and influential element in the party--e.g., N.Y. Governor & later Vice Prez Nelson Rockefeller, Mayor Lindsey of New York, and Jacob Javits of New York. There are still some today, but far fewer than before the Reagan Revolution. Examples would include New York Mayor Bloomberg and (relatively speaking) Gov. Arnold Schwartzeneger of California.
     
  11. Hryhorii

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    Yeah, I just kinda felt like being a tool...
     
  12. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    sorry, but I was just so curious I honestly had to jump in at this point... I've always thought of republicans as conservative, democrats as liberal. I've always associated conservatives and republicans with fundies, the taking away of rights, war, anti drug laws, etc.
    I'm actually really interested: explain? plz?
     
  13. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Generally speaking, you're right--more so now than ever before. Until Ronald Reagan, there used to be a significant minority of moderate & even liberal Republicans, and they were basically secular, although they paid somewhat more lip service to "God, flag and country" than the Democrats. Since the early 1980s, under Reagan, Republicans have increasingly courted the religious right--and vice versa. This reflects the growing power and politicization of Christian Evangelicals brought about by Jerry Fallwell's Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition, the Republicanization of the Southern Bible Belt (which used to be solidly Democrat), and the realization by Republican strategists, including Karl Rove, that this is a natural Republican voting bloc. I think this is one of the scariest developments in recent U.S. history, because it has and will result, as you say, in "fundies, the taking away of rights, war, anti drug laws, etc.", in the erosion of our tradition of separation of church and state, and in the continued corruption of the Christian religion by the "God is a Republican" mesage. There is a movement within the Christian Evangelical camp that is trying to counteract these unfortunate trends. Hryhorii's reference to radical liberal republicans was to French republicans of the French Revolution, who were of course radical and anticlerical. But that was another time and country.
     
  14. SpreadneckGA

    SpreadneckGA Member

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    Many libertarians would fit the mold of economic conservatives, social liberal.
     
  15. Hryhorii

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    Yeah, Republican in the French Revolution era sense basically means that they favored a republic over the monarchy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism
     
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