Drug Newbie

you are fighting off thoughts you create by fighting them

you alone are dwelling on your thought processes you assumke that ypour brain was changed gfortever so you live inside your thjoughts making every passing thoughht more important then ity is


just stop... go out do things take interest in things outside your head

its not the pot, its your mind doing it
focus outside yourself

 

I felt the very same way the first time I took acid, so I understand what you're going through. The great thing about the mind is it can put things like this behind it, and I'm very sure that this will eventually fade away or at least lessen. The truth of the matter is, though, you can't close the door. The mind is an incredibly powerful thing.

 

Pizzi hit on a lot of stuff here that I've tried, and I figured I'd throw in my $.02 from personal experience with those that I have tried.

Definately the way to go. The only draw-back that I know of is that it stays in your system for up to (sometimes over) 30 days, so it makes it hard to pass a piss-test without detection prevention.

These were legal in Japan while I was over there, and I would say that it is just too unpredictable to recommend to a beginner. You may have fits of laughter followed by feeling tiny and un-important. Mirrors can be fun if you have a good self-image, but again, it can be a bad thing too as the drug is just too unpredictable to say for sure.

Ooohhhh man... This one put me in a bad spot. If you have it, then you will do it - every 10 minutes or so. I'm not even tempted to touch it anymore since it made me entirely too paraniod. I don't consider a party to be one where you stare out the window while you've got the shakes. This one is REALLY hard on your body, ad if you're "planning" anything self-destructive, this will make you think it may be important to prioritize an expedition of said plans. Over-all I say don't bother; Too addictive, and not all that great.

This one turns up the thermostat in your head to high-heat, and can be dangerous, but I found it made me totally in love with everything around me. Don't think that you can do this and watch RoboCop *shivers* - your mind will simply reject violence, and leave you feeling like a lost puppy. That's about the worst trip I can think of on X (usually they were great), but I know it isn't physically healthy for you at all.

Pills make you querky, and will rearrange the wirring upstairs so that you stay that way of you aren't carefull. I'd say that persc. meds are as dangerous as anything you're going to find on the streets.

Meth hasn't been brought up in this one, and I'd give that one a big two thumbs down. Hard on your body, and not nearly as great as the addicts have it made out to be in their mind, and there are plenty of addicts because the nature of the drug is to run you (ragged). You can't do this drug without it "doing you."

Listen to Soaringeagle, there's some good advice there. Experience doesn't count for expertice on this one. Keep yourself in good company no matter what you decide as I believe that to be the key to keeping your experiments in check.

 

then the human mind is a lot more powerful that I thought.


so do you think I should just stay away from pot from now on?

 

It's not like it's YOUR FAULT that your mind operates the way it does, this is more like a subconscious thing. If anything don't blame yourself for it, that would probably make things worse.

But I would say that yes, you should stay away from pot if it has led you to this state of mind, at least for a while until you can come to terms with all of this.

 

the mind is much more poewerful then u know
give a freind a piece of paper and tell em its the best acid u ever had and they can trip on plain ol paper

chop off someones leg and give em a sugar pill and tell em its morphine and the mind can make the pain vannish

what im saying is it doesnt matter if u avoid weed or not its your thoughts not the weed that causes it
but yea perhaps till u focus your thoughts outside youyr thoughts u maybe should avoid drugs



umm though i think we should look into these feelings lil more it may not just be psychosomatic but might be a pre-existing but just now surfacing mental disorder... i dont think it is but think we should tawlk about it lil more to be sure

 

seconded, i forgot all about the possibility of this.

 

IMO and Im going to be honest with you.... Ive done LSD and mushrooms.... I wouldnt do them again, yeah the hallucinations can get way too powerful and out of control and theyre not really worth it... on LSD, people look very distorted, hunchbacks, long arms, evil eyes, "retarded", alien bodies... i dunno, thats p[retty much all there is to it.... sometimes you see streets or walls sort of "breathing" but I have to admit, when you close your eyes, you can see beautiful images.... still, Id never do them again, and if i had been smart id never had done them in the first place

coke and extacy are great tho, coke is not as addictive as they tell you, especially when you do it only once, you might not even get high.... it feels like floating, and you grow couple inches taller ) its a very good drug if you are surrounded with friends
extacy has a bad comedown, and as one user mentioned, you might clench or gring your teeths or not know what to do with your arms... that kind of stuff... extacy, when you do it for the first time, will make you feel drunk so be careful
oh, and with uppers, you dont have to worry about them changing you forever, unles you do loads of them

 

what kind of krrraazzzyyy acid did you take?

 

You and pizzi give good advice and I thank you for this. You both seem to have good heads on your shoulders. I've read about underlying mental disorders and I've been thinking about that possibility. Im in no position to rule out anything.


So sure we can talk about it more. What would you like to know? Im really trying to find help within you guys for this.

 

Aw, gee. Thanks man

Well, first I want to know what is up with that sig of yours.

Second of all, I think that if we look hard enough we can all find different mental disorders that we have. And I'm not sure if they really even should be disorders. The mind is so much more complex with the body. If someone has herpes, they have herpes. If someone is schizophrenic (not saying at all that you are lol), it's to a degree in which they can integrate themselves with society...which is a REALLY flawed standard to go by in-of-itself.

As soaringeagle said, it's very possible that your experience with weed, your mind working in a way it previously hadn't worked, brought on some latent "disorder;" or it came about in a way completely unrelated to the weed. Certain problems like that can come up in the teenage years, I hear.

I'm not a psychiatrist or anything, I just look up shit on wikipedia when I'm bored, so I wouldn't want to get you worried over something that I really have no idea about, but that might be why you're feeling this way. Again, I don't know. But like I said, from what you've described so far, I went through a lot of the same stuff after taking acid for the first time. Sometimes we can just be really troubled by our own minds sometimes. Is there anything else you can describe about how you are feeling?

This just goes to show OP, drugs aren't always fun and games, lol.

 

my sig pic is a kurdish girl being stoned to death by her own family for falling in love with an islamic boy. Her family filmed the whole thing with their phones when they weren't busy bashing her head in with stones. I figured I should honor her in some way since apparently no one else ever will.

See, what is odd, is that weed is not my first drug experience. I've done basically everything under the sun, and of all things, weed is the drug that started this inside me. Of all the drugs, the confessed tamest did the most damage. Damage I fear is irreversible, if it is even damage at all.

hmm descriptions.

Well, as far as how I can physically describe it, it feels as if there is a tiny metal ball in the center of my head where the pineal gland is located, that is expanding outward, crushing my brain against my skull. However, this is not physically painful, just slightly unpleasant. It's almost as if I have energy that I need to expel, but I dont know how to do it.

Like I said, it's very difficult to describe, and Im not doing a good job at all. Im not a poet, and that is about the closest I can come. If one were to physically go schizophrenic, this is what it might feel like.

 

I have to agree with soaring eagle.. it's not the weed that is doing anything to your brain. it makes no metal balls in your head... good grief, if there was something to it and marijuna was indeed hazardous to your health.. that would have been a media feild day... in 50 yrs of intence study and research, there has NEVER been any evidence that MJ harms anyones body mind or soul.. whatever problem your having it's not from pot.. it don't work like that..you said that you have done every drug there is.. have you concidered that one of these other drugs may have affected you insead of the smoke.
After smokin' for over 40 yrs, the only thing that was wierd was hurlin' the first time I smoked it. MJ is harmless to the body. I wouldn't recomend taking drugs, but as I feel that MJ is not a drug but an herb that is usefull/helpfull I don't mind suggesting it.

If you really feel like something is rolling around in your pineal gland, perhaps you should concider getting an MRI done on your brain. I have done more n my share of drugs in the past, have friends that have done weed all their lives and I have never heard of it affecting anyone with head pain.. on the contrary it relieves pain, and relaxes you.. Even in cases of severe allergic reaction, it never produced pain.

If your MJ stays with you for 3 weeks.. save the seeds, you'll be a millionaire!!

BTW, I'm moving this thread to Mind Trips as it has grown out of Introductions

Have a blessed day
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Happiness is the only thing desirable in itself, nice to meet another Atheist also. Safest drugs are cannabis, lsd, shrooms, but those psycadelics aren't really recreational, unlike cannabis. In moderation alcohol is somewhat safe.

The 'best' way to take marijuana depends of preference, either joint, bong, vape, or eating it. Ingesting cannabis orally creates the most intense and long lasting effects but take longer to set in. Vapes and eating are also the safest ways but there is not a definitve link with cannabis and lung cancer, i find it's better to use a bong to filter out the carcinogens.

It doesn't impair judgement sufficiently, you are always in control. Perception of life is improved as well as the overall appreciation of such. The most powerful hallucinations occur from Salvia, Lsd, Dmt, Shrooms, Dxm. Salvia should never be underestimated and not done alone. For proper effects it should be smoked through a bong with a torch lighter, holding your inhaled hit for 30 secs ish or as long as you can. Personally, i would never do it again but some people enjoy it.

Have fun with your life of hedonism, as long as you don't harm anyone but yourself in the process..

 

well....no.

I've done a lot of drugs, but I haven't touched anything in quite awhile. They say weed is the gateway drug, but pot is the last thing I tried. And I never felt this way up until I..smoked...pot.

Out of all the drugs I've done, weed has had the worst and most numerous adverse effects on me.

And yes, it was the weed. I felt like this WHILE I was high, and then it just never went away.

 

That gateway theory has been disproven. Alcohol and tobacco are the real gateway drugs.

 

People have said so much of what can be said about weed that I guess I'll just give some input on salvia.

As a few posters have pointed out, it can be very intense, and a lot of people don't like it. Someone also said that it didn't work for them, and I can all but guarantee that this was just because it can actually be kind of difficult to use properly. If you use a normal lighter you have to keep the flame on it the ENTIRE TIME, until your lungs are full or you've burned up the whole bowl.

Personally, I enjoy it. Well, "enjoy" might not be the right word. It's not a drug that's particularly fun, I just find it to be very interesting. Using it properly can result in a short (probably 5 minutes, maximum) trip which can potentially leave you with no knowledge whatsoever of the world around you or that there's even a "you" with a world around it in the first place.

The effects are really distubing and unenjoyable to most people. If you're interested, I'd suggest giving it a try after you've got a few other drugs under you belt. If you like it, it probably still won't be something you want to do frequently. I have plenty, but I haven't smoked it in months just because I haven't been in the mindset to want to do it again. If you don't like it then you only spent 10 minutes of your life having a bad time and you can move on.

 

Yep... salvia is really cool under some cirumstances but salvia for me is a very intresting drug for me and i like it

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone. For the record, I am not a girl. I can see where somebody would be confused that I was, based on the name.

"Anyway, she said she was going to kill herself if she got CAUGHT doing drugs, which was probably a joke, although when it comes to suicide it's probably not a good idea to ever come to the conclusion that it was just a joke."

I should clarify. I've been planning rationally to off myself for quite some time now ; I don't plan to live beyond 40, unless the circumstances are better than I could have imagined. It wasn't a joke. If I knew I were headed to prison for a very long time, I would most likely kill myself, due to the fact that I would want to avoid the harsh conditions in prison. I'm in life for the pleasure, and when I've wrung the most pleasure I can out of life, I'm calling it quits.

I plan to pile is much pleasure I can in life every day. I know there is not a moral code that we are supposed to live by, and Atheism has been the must freeing of all. Every moment I can I'm going to use drugs; but I'm going to have to make sure it's safe, and I'm going to have to make sure that I'm not caught at any point. I'm pretty much emotionally dead, and while I don't consider drugs or self-medicating the end-all solution to my problems, I do believe that drug use will restore some of the feeling that I've been craving. My threshold for pain and discomfort is very low, and all my life I'e gone for the "pleasure route".

Thanks for filling me in folks. I suppose the answers are just as mixed as before. I think I've gathered enough info about Salvia now to rule it out, and as for the hard drugs like cocaine, I never planned to do those in the first place. Marijuana and psychedelics was really more what I planned to do. So based on what I've read, I should stick with pot at first and then move my way up to psychedelics...using moderation of course.

 

try weed once and see if u like it, it wont kill you

slowly you will grow in experience (be less scared of the effects) and then u can try other shit