Gentleness and Good Morals : Ointment for Peace.

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  1. fairman

    fairman Member

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    Peace!

    1= (i)-To bring human close to God. (ii)- To raise the standard of righteousness of human so that they can imbue the attributes of God at human level…..These are fundamentals of promised spiritual reforms in this era.



    2= These reforms demands pledge for piousness and piety.



    3= Forebearance, gentleness and good morals are the instruments, by which the reformer takes pain and stuggles to pull the long lost people towards divine light. Practice of forebearance is required inside the home and outside as well. It helps to spread peace.



    4= Pulling towards guidance is like lighting the path which is directed to God.. This path has enlighted stages. Passions continue to increase to reach next stage. Each stage illumine the way to next one..Guide and guided ones continue efforts.



    5= Practice gentleness, forebearance along with no use of force is the spiritual ointment prescibed by the guided promised reforming messiah (mta.tv) --- Being the perfect representation (62:4) of his master, the blessed holy prophet of high moral excellences, he requires from the pledgeres to implement the forgotten great teachings and practice piety to family, friends, opponents and society.



    6= To practice righteousness and to advise the weaks in private is the reforming call; ill manners / morals stem from arrogance endangering the faith and belief. Lack of gentleness and arrogance is the root of many human conflicts. First reformation is done by the self. Timely control of tempers saves from many subsequent unrests.



    7= A child talk gentle and mild before it learn the ways of world. This fact shows gentility is inherented in us. Deriding, defaming, nicknaming, suspecting needlessly, spying, backbiting are to be avoided (49:12+) . Good things said and heard in response make peace.



    8= To imbue divine attributes on human level, attitude of a believer has to be gentle and in accordance.



    9= Reforms also need that one does not chase matters of others with ill intent. One need to control one’s temper ; one who flares into a temper cannot say anything of wisdom. Furry is half madenss, if it exceeds limits it becomes total madness.



    10= Some more words of reforming wisdom: (a)- Never be arrogant to anyone, even though he/she is your subordinate. (b)-Donot call name to anyone, even if he/she call name.(c)- Be humble, kind, pure intented and sympathetic to creature so that you should be accepted.



    11= Prayers and good works are the conditions, made by Allah, to the beneficence of Caliphate / Khilafat. Righteousness and piety is the promised messianically explained root.

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  2. jonny2mad

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    hmmm how do you think killing lots of people, torturing people, raping captives and sex with children is good morals .

    now I know islamic scripture and I cant think of one really good thing that mohammed ever did , I think hes on a level with charles manson except I hear at least manson could play the guitar .

    my advice to you is take a step back and consider that you may be in brainwashing cult , that keeps repeating what a great man mohammed was with NO evidence that he was anything but a very nasty cruel man and fake who liked sex with small children .

    read up on the lies of other cult leaders and look at the ritual of islam and see that theyre pretty standard brainwashing, it can be very hard when your in such a cult to see things clearly I understand that so best of luck .
     
  3. fairman

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    The Holy Prophet Muhammad in the Eyes of Non-Muslims
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    Zia Shah http://www.alislam.org/library/links/eyes.html

    some of the writings of Non-Muslim writers to illustrate how he appeared in the eyes of some of the Non-Muslim writers.

    PRINGLE KENNEDY

    Pringle Kennedy has observed (Arabian Society at the Time of Muhammad, pp.8, 10, 18, 21):

    Muhammad was, to use a striking expression, the man of the hour. In order to understand his wonderful success, one must study the conditions of his times. Five and half centuries and more had elapsed when he was born since Jesus had come into the world. At that time, the old religions of Greece and Rome, and of the hundred and one states along the Mediterranean, had lost their vitality. In their place, Caesarism had come as a living cult. The worship of the state as personified by the reigning Caesar, such was the religion of the Roman Empire. Other religions might exist, it was true; but they had to permit this new cult by the side of them and predominant over them. But Caesarism failed to satisfy. The Eastern religions and superstitions (Egyptian, Syrian, Persian) appealed to many in the Roman world and found numerous votaries. The fatal fault of many of these creeds was that in many respects they were so ignoble ...

    When Christianity conquered Caesarism at the commencement of the fourth century, it, in its turn, became Caesarised. No longer was it the pure creed which had been taught some three centuries before. It had become largely de spiritualised, ritualised, materialised .......

    How, in a few years, all this was changed, how, by 650 AD a great part of this world became a different world from what it had been before, is one of the most remarkable chapters in human history .... This wonderful change followed, if it was not mainly caused by, the life of one man, the Prophet of Mecca ....

    Whatever the opinion one may have of this extraordinary man, whether it be that of the devout Muslim who considers him the last and greatest herald of God's word, or of the fanatical Christian of former days, who considered him an emissary of the Evil One, or of certain modern Orientalists, who look on him rather as a politician than a saint, as an organiser of Asia in general and Arabia in particular, against Europe, rather than as a religious reformer; there can be no difference as to the immensity of the effect which his life has had on the history of the world.

    To those of us, to whom the man is everything, the milieu but little, he is the supreme instance of what can be done by one man. Even others, who hold that the conditions of time and place, the surroundings of every sort, the capacity of receptivity of the human mind, have, more than an individual effort, brought about the great steps in the world's history, cannot well deny, that even if this step were to come, without Muhammad, it would have been indefinitely delayed.

    MICHAEL H HART

    He in his book The 100 has ranked the great men in history with respect to their influence on human history. He ranked the Holy Prophet Muhammmadsaw as the most influential man in the human history. He wrote the following about the Holy Prophet Muhammadsaw. The text has been quoted in its entirety, however in the few places where I differed strongly with his opinion, I have taken the liberty to insert my humble opinion within parenthesis to caution the reader.

    My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels.

    Of humble origins, Muhammad founded and promulgated one of the world's great religions, and became an immensely effective political leader. Today, thirteen centuries after his death, his influence is still powerful and pervasive.

    The majority of the persons in this book had the advantage of being born and raised in centers of civilization, highly cultured or politically pivotal nations. Muhammad, however, was born in the year 570, in the city of Makkah, in southern Arabia, at that time a backward area of the world, far from the centers of trade, art, and learning. Orphaned at age six, he was reared in modest surroundings. Islamic tradition tells us that he was illiterate. His economic position improved when, at age twenty five, he married a wealthy widow. Nevertheless, as he approached forty, there was little outward indication that he was a remarkable person.

    Most Arabs at that time were pagans, who believed in many gods. There were, however, in Makkah, a small number of Jews and Christians; it was from them no doubt that Muhammad first learned of a single, omnipotent God who ruled the entire universe. When he was forty years old, Muhammad became convinced that this one true God (Allah) was speaking to him, and had chosen him to spread the true faith.

    For three years, Muhammad preached only to close friends and associates. Then, about 613, he began preaching in public. As he slowly gained converts, the Makkahn authorities came to consider him a dangerous nuisance. In 622, fearing for his safety, Muhammad fled to Madinah (a city some 200 miles north of Makkah), where he had been offered a position of considerable political power. This flight, called the Higra, was the turning point of the Prophet's life. In Makkah, he had had few followers. In Madinah, he had many more, and he soon acquired an influence that made him a virtual dictator. During the next few years, while Muhammad's following grew rapidly, a series of battles were fought between Madinah and Makkah. This war ended in 630 with Muhammad's triumphant return to Makkah as conqueror. The remaining two and one half years of his life witnessed the rapid conversion of the Arab tribes to the new religion. When Muhammad died, in 632, he was the effective ruler of all of southern Arabia.

    The Bedouin tribesmen of Arabia had a reputation as fierce warriors. But their number was small; and plagued by disunity and internecine warfare, they had been no match for the larger armies of the kingdoms in the settled agricultural areas to the north. However, unified by Muhammad for the first time in history, and inspired by their fervent belief in the one true God, these small Arab armies now embarked upon one of the most astonishing series of conquests in human history. (However, one should note that these were not offencive wars, limitation of time and space will not allow us to dwell onto a detailed analysis of these wars and conquests). To the northeast of Arabia lay the large Neo Persian Empire of the Sassanids; to the northwest lay the Byzantine, or Eastern Roman Empire, centered in Constantinople. Numerically, the Arabs were no match for their opponents. On the field of battle, though, the inspired Arabs rapidly conquered all of Mesopotamia, Syria, and Palestine. By 642, Egypt had been wrested from the Byzantine Empire, while the Persian armies had been crushed at the key battles of Qadisiya in 637, and Nehavend in 642.

    But even these enormous conquests -- which were made under the leadership of Muhammad's close friends and immediate successors, Abu Bakr and 'Umar ibn al Khattab did not mark the end of the Arab advance. By 711, the Arab armies had swept completely across North Africa to the Atlantic Ocean. There they turned north and, crossing the Strait of Gibraltar, overwhelmed the Visigothic kingdom in Spain. For a while, it must have seemed that the Muslims would overwhelm all of Christian Europe. However, in 732, at the famous Battle of Tours, a Muslim army, which had advanced into the center of France, was at last defeated by the Franks. Nevertheless, in a scant century of fighting, these Bedouin tribesmen, inspired by the word of the Prophet, had carved out an empire stretching from the borders of India to the Atlantic Ocean -- the largest empire that the world had yet seen. And everywhere that the armies conquered, large scale conversion to the new faith eventually followed.

    Now, not all of these conquests proved permanent. The Persians, though they have remained faithful to the religion of the Prophet, have since regained their independence from the Arabs. And in Spain, more than seven centuries of warfare finally resulted in the Christians reconquering the entire peninsula. However, Mesopotamia and Egypt, the two cradles of ancient civilization, have remained Arab, as has the entire coast of North Africa. The new religion, of course, continued to spread, in the intervening centuries, far beyond the borders of the original Muslim conquests. Currently, it has tens of millions of adherents in Africa and Central Asia, and even more in Pakistan and northern India, and in Indonesia. In Indonesia, the new faith has been a unifying factor. In the Indian subcontinent, however, the conflict between Muslims and Hindus is still a major obstacle to unity.

    How, then, is one to assess the overall impact of Muhammad on human history? Like all religions, Islam exerts an enormous influence upon the lives of its followers. It is for this reason that the founders of the world's great religions all figure prominently in this book. Since there are roughly twice as many Christians as Muslims in the world, it may initially seem strange that Muhammad has been ranked higher than Jesus. There are two principal reasons for that decision First, Muhammad played a far more important role in the development of Islam than Jesus did in the development of Christianity. Although Jesus was responsible for the main ethical and moral precepts of Christianity (insofar as these differed from Judaism), St. Paul was the main developer of Christian theology, its principal proselytizer, and the author of a large portion of the New Testament.

    Muhammad, however, was responsible for both the theology of Islam and its main ethical and moral principles. In addition, he played the key role in proselytizing the new faith, and in establishing the religious practices of lslam. Moreover, he is the author of the Muslim holy scriptures, the Quran, (however, the Muslims believe and try to prove that it is the literal word of God), a collection of certain of Muhammad's insights that he believed had been directly revealed to him by Allah. Most of these utterances were copied more or less faithfully during Muhammad's lifetime and were collected together in authoritative form not long after his death. The Quran, therefore, closely represents Muhammad's ideas and teachings and to a considerable extent his exact words. No such detailed compilation of the teachings of Christ has survived. Since the Quran is at least as important to Muslims as the Bible is to Christians, the influence of Muhammad through the medium of the Quran has been enormous. It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. On the purely religious level, then, it seems likely that Muhammad has been as influential in human history as Jesus.

    Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular as well as a religious leader. In fact, as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time.

    Of many important historical events, one might say that they were inevitable and would have occurred even without the particular political leader who guided them. For example, the South American colonies would probably have won their independence from Spain even if Simon Bolivar had never lived. But this cannot be said of the Arab conquests. Nothing similar had occurred before Muhammad, and there is no reason to believe that the conquests would have been achieved without him. The only comparable conquests in human history are those of the Mongols in the thirteenth century, which were primarily due to the influence of Genghis Khan. These conquests, however, though more extensive than those of the Arabs, did not prove permanent, and today the only areas occupied by the Mongols are those that they held prior to the time of Genghis Khan.

    It is far different with the conquests of the Arabs. From Iraq to Morocco, there extends a whole chain of Arab nations united not merely by their faith in Islam, but also by their Arabic language, history, and culture. The centrality of the Quran in the Muslim religion and the fact that it is written in Arabic have probably prevented the Arab language from breaking up into mutually unintelligible dialects, which might otherwise have occurred in the intervening thirteen centuries. Differences and divisions between these Arab states exist, of course, and they are considerable, but the partial disunity should not blind us to the important elements of unity that have continued to exist. For instance, neither Iran nor Indonesia, both oil producing states and both Islamic in religion, joined in the oil embargo of the winter of 1973 74. It is no coincidence that all of the Arab states, and only the Arab states, participated in the embargo.

    We see, then, that the Arab conquests of the seventh century have continued to play an important role in human history, down to the present day. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.

    SIR THOMAS CARLYLE

    J. H. DENISON

    S.P. SCOTT

    LAMARTINE

    SIR WILLIAM MUIR

    SIR JOHN GLUBB

    MONTGOMERY WATT

    WILL DURANT

    ALFRED GUILLAME

    KAREN ARMSTRONG

    MAJOR A. LEONARD

    If ever any man on this earth has found God; if ever any man has devoted his life for the sake of God with a pure and holy zeal then, without doubt, and most certainly that man was the Holy Prophet of Arabia.
    (Islam, its Moral and Spiritual Values, p. 9; 1909, London)
     
  4. fairman

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    Unity of God is not a man made idea. It always descends. As time pass by, people get corrupt till the next prophet comesto reestablish the lost message of Unity of God. Holy prophets like Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessing of God be upon them) were the champions who single handedly stood against the current deep rooted evils. With them was no worldy force; their was lone voice; they forecasted their success; at the end of the day they were successful to teach humanity the divinely taught morals. Let be united on goodness. LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE. It is reforming call.
     
  5. scratcho

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    I'll ask you--where does Islam and you personally stand on those of us that wish to enjoy freedom FROM religion?
     
  6. jonny2mad

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    fairman you gave me pretty much the response I expected a large cut and paste of what some selected non muslims think of mohammed and some nonsense about the unity of god .

    where is the logical thinking or the critical thinking ? look around the world and you see thousands of people who claim to be prophets some are successful in gathering a large number of followers ready to kill or die for them .
    how can you tell your prophet is right and theirs not right , it cant be the number of followers he has or whether he predicts hes going to be a big man and ends up a big man lots of people do that .
    I would say you need to look for a higher standard of morality something you wouldnt expect 1400 years ago ,and on that mohammed fails he was a slaver he had sex with kids, I know more about islamic scripture than the average muslim and I havnt found anything in his behavior that Id call really good that out weighs the cruelty for example.
    if he was a true prophet you wouldnt expect that
     
  7. scratcho

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    I'm still waiting.
     
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    Where do Pagans and homosexuals stand in this definition of peace?
     
  9. scratcho

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    Waiting.
     
  10. fairman

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    Peace be upon you good freind!

    Perhaps you mean that religion is responsible for lot of troubles.

    To make the long short, please consider:

    1- Example of cummunist USSR. without religion, what did they acheive?
    2- Two world wars which shed the record amount of human blood, religion was not behind it.
    3- Current increasing gap b/n poor and rich is also not due to religion.

    But religion IS used as easy platform by mafias etc. Unity of God descends and morals are established for peaceful life. After sometime man falls into low desires not becuse of original sin idea ( which is not correct according to Islam and also bible said - man is made at the image of God !) but because man is made with noble but raw-state and latter man has to uplift himself to moral-state. Finally man has to reach peace-with-God state. Religion come to help uplift human to that celestial height.

    Unfortunately, long time after the holy prophet of any religion, corrupt leaders wearing cloaks of religious clergy comes into action and trick followers of a religion to play at thier hands. People start worshipping these dummy-gods.
    And real God is taken of chests.Till a next reminder comes from Almighty God. Reformer comes and raise his voice to remind people The Unity of God and reposibilities to establish divinely originated morals single handedly. He speaks against popular evils and vested interest mafias get together to force him into SEA, or try to hang him on WOOD, or force him to migrate to OTHER TOWN. Voice is same, phenoemnon is same.( more reforms in w.alislam.org)
     
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