Merged Test tube meat

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by itsamagicallife, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. itsamagicallife

    itsamagicallife Member

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    "Dutch researchers are growing pork meat in a lab with the goal of feeding millions without the need to raise and slaughter animals.

    In the Netherlands, researchers are working on a new way of providing meat to the millions of people who eat it every day -- by growing it in a laboratory. As Reed Stevenson in Amsterdam explains, the process is complex and could be years off -- but it could also solve some environmental issues."

    http://www.reuters.com/news/video/videoStory?videoId=56327
     
  2. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    No. My body doesnt need meat. It doesnt feel natural. I dont want the stuff
     
  3. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    and how did they derive this meat? with animal testing.
    life can only come from life, animal meat can only come from other animal meat....

    no i wouldnt eat it.
     
  4. shirley

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    I think it's better that they test on animals to produce this meat, as it is highly likely that in the future this will be the only sort of meat we eat, cutting out all animal farming. So whilst animal testing is shit, i think it will be worth it.
     
  5. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    or we could eat veggies?
     
  6. hummblebee

    hummblebee hipstertist.

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    ^Exactly, Willy! Besides, who's to know that the longterm effects of this "meat", 20 or 50 years down the line, aren't MUCH worse for having been genetically tinkered with than the regular, murdered variety? Eating meat is already harmful to our health. I can only imagine what the effects of this stuff would be. :eek:
     
  7. Dakota's Mom

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    Wow, I read this question and had immediate visions of them cutting big chunks of muscle off a cow and then patching them up for a few weeks and then doing it again. AHHHH!!!, No thanks.

    Kathi
     
  8. sublime94

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    Hell no. Im a veg for health, anyway. And yeah thats pretty weird. Idk why theyd make that, cause most of us vegs are also organics, and so we would natrually reject any imintation organic substance generated in a lab.

    Pretty pointless.
     
  9. Avocado Noni

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    I think they should test it on people in prison and meat eaters.
     
  10. lunarflowermaiden

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    That seems very unnatural and disgusting to me. Why would I want to consume chemically-made "food" when I have all of the resources I need growing out of the ground and off of trees? No, I would not eat it.
     
  11. homeschoolmama

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    I don't like GMO veggies, WHY would I want GMO MEAT?!? Gross!
    love,
    mom
     
  12. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    I wold not eat meat that's been raised in some aquarium.
     
  13. drumminmama

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  14. itsamagicallife

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    And by the way, I totally disagree with PETA on this while I'm usually a strong backer of PETA.

    By JOHN SCHWARTZ
    Published: April 21, 2008

    People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants to pay a million dollars for fake meat — even if it has caused a “near civil war” within the organization.

    The organization said it would announce plans on Monday for a $1 million prize to the “first person to come up with a method to produce commercially viable quantities of in vitro meat at competitive prices by 2012.”

    The idea of getting the next Chicken McNugget out of a test tube is not new. For several years, scientists have worked to develop technologies to grow tissue cultures that could be consumed like meat without the expense of land or feed and the disease potential of real meat. An international symposium on the topic was held this month in Norway. The tissue, once grown, could be shaped and given texture with the kinds of additives and structural agents that are now used to give products like soy burgers a more meaty texture.

    New Harvest, a nonprofit organization formed to promote the field, says on its Web site, “Because meat substitutes are produced under controlled conditions impossible to maintain in traditional animal farms, they can be safer, more nutritious, less polluting and more humane than conventional meat.”

    Jason Matheny, a doctoral student at Johns Hopkins University who formed New Harvest, said the idea of a prize for researchers was promising. Citing the example of the Ansari X Prize, a competition that produced the first privately financed human spacecraft, Mr. Matheny said, “they inspire more dollars spent on a research problem than the prize represents.”

    A founder of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk, said she had been hoping to get the organization involved in advancing in vitro meat technology for at least a decade.

    But, Ms. Newkirk said, the decision to sponsor a prize caused “a near civil war in our office,” since so many PETA members are repulsed by the thought of eating animal tissue, even if no animals are killed.

    Lisa Lange, a vice president of the organization, said she was part of the heated exchange. “My main concern is, as the largest animal rights organization in the world, it’s our job to introduce the philosophy and hammer it home that animals are not ours to eat.” Ms. Lange added, “I remember saying I would be much more comfortable promoting eating roadkill.”

    Ms. Newkirk said the disagreement was natural, adding, “We will have members leave us over this.”

    “People say animal rights people can’t agree,” she said. “Well, human beings can’t agree. In any social cause community, there are people who strive for purity.”

    Her goal, she said, was more pragmatic. “We don’t mind taking uncomfortable positions if it means that fewer animals suffer.” In that way, she said, “in vitro meat is a godsend.”

    For some already working in the field, the news was greeted with a wary welcome.

    Henk P. Haagsman, a professor at Utrecht University in the Netherlands and an in vitro meat research pioneer, said he welcomed the prize competition.

    “It will hopefully spark more interest to invest in the technology,” Professor Haagsman said.

    But he said he would not like to see the field dominated by the animal welfare issue, since environmental and public health issues are such important “drivers for this research.” The Netherlands has put $5 million into in vitro meat studies.

    Another scientist at Utrecht, Bernard Roelen, said via e-mail that he was “rather surprised” by news of the competition, but said that even with strong financing, it would be extremely difficult to produce commercially viable quantities of in vitro meat before 2012. Professor Roelen added, “For me as a researcher, the announcement does not mean so much.”

    Why not? “I do research because I want to understand fundamental mechanisms,” he said, “not to gain fortune.”
     
  15. cutelildeadbear

    cutelildeadbear Hip Forums Gym Rat

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    That sounds disgusting. I'm doing just fine how I am now.
     
  16. Finnaz

    Finnaz Champagne Socialist

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    I'm generally not disgusted by what things are. If it means less animals are killed/ in pain then I am very happy to support it.

    Think of it this way, no one will ever convince everyone in the world to turn vegetarian, or even everyone in one country. This way, you remove the harm (or a large amount of it) from the industry.

    There's no hacking off of bits of animals, a cell sample is taken and then it's grown in a lab. If the funding's put in, then it could remove the animal factor out of it all together. No more factory farms, no more horrible pollution and pain. Sounds a good enough reason to support something that sounds a bit yucky to me.
     
  17. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    look outside the fact that this is flesh, however gotten and look at this:
    cloned food is less diversity and more dependence of a handful of companies that manufacture food.
     

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