If I actually got a serious anxiety disorder, I probably wouldn't think it was anything out of the ordinary. I'm a really calm and cool person and I never get angry or anything. But I feel anxious about something most of the time. I have this butterflies-in-the-stomach sort of thing. Except stronger. Like something big is going down. Like SOON. But nothing happens. I've had this for a few years now. Takes some getting used to but yeah. Weird. I mean, I don't have it all the time but too often to be normal.
I went through a bout of it before/during/after a divorce. Ended up in a psych hospital on psychotropic drugs. I was lucky to find a headshrinker who told me I was OK, it was the rest of the world that was screwed up. In group I met a lot of guys in the same boat, lots of shame for not being able to take it like a man. Stress can sure mess with your mind, more than pot that's for sure.
MamaKCita at that time men were expected to hang tough and take what came, the group was full of guys who felt real guilt for not being able to cope. I know better and I was not making light of a bad situation, rather expressing a feeling we all shared. The biggest obstacle to our getting better was getting past that guilt, it keeps you from asking for help. When I first went for counseling they put me on one of the zines. That stuff made me want to go play in traffic but didn't help the anxiety. The 30 days I spent in the psych hospital was to detox from that, its where I found help from the group therapy. Sorry for any misunderstanding. ~Peace
i get guilt for not being able to cope with my anxiety sometimes too, and im a chick. not only that, but someone who does have genuine mental health problems in addition to the anxiety/panic attacks. fun stuff, not. i still feel super guilty for being so weak and being such a freak though
Allonym its nothing to feel guilty about. It is caused by an imbalance in brain chemistry. Every thing we experience is expressed in the brain by a chemical code, we have no control over that. It isn't a sign of weakness, and you are not a freak. That lesson is courtesy of my psych. Dr.Green. I spent years with him and at the end that is all it came down to. "Can't" is an obstacle in the path to "I did". And anybody who loves cheesecake has their head in the right place.
Hot water, you ought to be boiled in it. Never heard of a MAN who had trouble with public speaking? Stage fright? Or a MAN who got tongue tied anytime he tried talking to a woman? No? Your keepers don't let you out much do they? Well they know best.:rmoon2: ~ ~Peace, even for you
ha, ha, ha.... Seriously this guy has got to realize this thread deals with men's issues, not emo sensitive girly issues like a guy having a panic attack and running out of a bar out of fear of rejection Hotwater
thats not what panic attacks are, or are about. but obviously you havent experienced one. they centre around self-created anxiety, generally speaking. they are mental -illness- not something only girls or effeminate men deal with. just because you havent gone through it doesnt mean its illegitimate for other men/people to experience it
Hey Hotwater as a man I don't have a problem admitting when I've had a problem. Some issues cross gender lines. If I read it correctly the question was have any of you men had a panic attack? I believe it was MamaKCita who asked the original question. Would you ban the women from asking questions in this forum? Allonym made a valid point about the way people feel about the disorder. My reply was based on science, brain chemistry, what makes us tick. Don't worry about this old nooB MamaKCita, I've been poked with worse things than words. I promise not to pick on the kid. I've got kids older than hotwater so kid it is. :tongue:
my "family" gave me an anxiety disorder. its' called "complex post-tramatic stress disorder." how in the hell it could be labled a "disorder" for a normal reaction to an abnormal situation. in my case, that was extreme child abuse. i was damm lucky to have survive it! my brother, sister and, father all committed suicide from the abuse by my "mother." i've never been married or, had childern and, i never will. my upbring forced me to make that decission. in alot of ways i got robbed of the one and only life i will ever have. i can only live with time i have left to me. yes, i must take meds. the ssri's (prozac) has been a god send to me! before i started prozac back around 1984, i use to blow up and be destructive as all hell over little shit. that was due to brain damage from all the years of stress caused by the abuse. i have not blowen up once in allmost 25 years since i have been on prozac. i have had about 35 years of psychotherapy and, for my condition it is offen common for therapy to be a life long process. i also have been doing relaxation programs for about 30 years. the goal is to re-train my nervous system back into it's normal state. that will never be though. i have gotten better over time but, i will most likely never be totally over it. my first four jobs i got fired from them. it was too much stress. my "co-workers" some of them were nice to me yet, others exploited my condition. i can only work in "safe settings." one last thing, fuck that macho shit!
I had them a while back, only I would get an upset stomach with mine: imagine that whenever you do anything exciting, different, or something that increases your heart rate, you feel like you are about to vomit all over! I just breathed deep and relaxed, and they would go away. I don't have them any more.
well, you know, dave is alive alive alive. he loves adventure, craziness, getting out of the routine. poor guy got a series of vicious panic attacks. he's never been the fearful or cautious sort. i think it has to be purely chemical if somethign like this kicked his ass. i was always cautious, but very mellow, fly by the seat of your pants kinda person. then suddenly one day i can't walk out my front door. it never made any sense about me, either. who knows?