Black dogs, Goddesses and Dark Chinese armies

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  1. liquidlight

    liquidlight Senior Member

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    When you say redskinned do you mean native american or just red skinned? And does he use this stick as a punt for his boat or is it just a stick or a staff perhaps?
    The fact he has a boat is particularly interesting.

    Does he wear a hat? ... just curious :) And is it a boat or more like a canoe?

    "I don't dream of mythological God's /Godesses like you do, that must be quite a sight!"

    ... well the impact really comes after i wake and realise the content of the dream because within the dream things seem fairly normal and i'm not really aware that she's a 'goddess'. ... no fancy outfits or golden auras or anything.
    Most times the triple goddess comes as three women i may know in real life, but they'll all be of the same age and the common theme of these dreams seems to be of her writing my name in a book (this has happened a few times). Only in a recent dream did i not recognise them as women i know in waking life, ...this time they were three teenage girls, about 14 or 15, and they seemed like triplets... all identical. They all had dark hair in a kind of bob type cut and all had these otherworldly blue eyes (like in the film 'Dune').Being young teenagers they had these kind of girlish things with them ... a pink harmonium (thing with piano keys that you blow through) and a little pink diary they wrote my name in. For the first time we were really talking ... although i don't know what i was saying to them they were sitting on the floor listening to me talk with interest, and the one sitting in the middle was naked (nothing sexual here though).
    In one dream several years ago she took a darker form of three vampire women (also women i know in real life) who took turns biting my neck, the last of whom has long venemous, black tipped snake like fangs, again, nothing sexual (at least on the surface)... just teeth crunching into my neck.

    Even the cow goddess seemed fairly ordinary at first ... she was in a swimming pool inviting me in. At the poolside she looked like a pretty young woman with long brown hair and as i approached her i noticed the slightly hairy arms and belly ... and hooves. We just end up in a tender embrace ... just close and affectionate.
    The second dream of her it was again a starry moonlit night and there is a canal i need to somehow get along. She appears as a normal friesian black and white cow and i and two others get on her back and she ferrys us along the canal.
    My last dream of her recently she's a half woman half cow again ... and we're embracing again but this time i'm embracing her from ... behind. Yes, Bull connotations arise!
    So it seems that when i first started having these dreams 12 years ago, i just thought they were three women with some strange but unknown significance, and as time has passed and i've come to know more about who she represents, the dreams have got gradually more meaningful and varied with more things for me to understand.
     
  2. edenfield

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    just a simple rowing boat. no hat, but the robes are hooded, very worn and sort of very old linen/ or thick cotton-like, red skinned yes, dark doe eyes, but don't know whether he's native american, or middle eastern, either one or the other. he dosent have his face painted or anything, the stick, is used for punting, but also a staff too. he comes over from a mysty place with mountains....stood up in his little rowing boat. He had his hood up too.

    I dreamed of A God the other week, this one clearly had had enough of my lazyness and kicked my arse. He had a crown on and said he wernt going to work through me if I didn't buck up. and has hidden my third eye. bloody fellas, who do they think they are???
     
  3. liquidlight

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    Wow, that must be hard to deal with being told that ...i remember you saying something in a post about your third eye. VERY powerful dream though!
    Well if it's any consolation i've been trying to 'buck up' for a long time now and i've had pretty mutch the same thing said to me in the past ...although not in a dream but via a shamanic journey that someone once did for me.
    But 'bucking up' needs understanding. We need to know why and in what areas, otherwise we're just going through the motions with no reason. Our egos will attempt to make changes due to fear or desire so one needs to be careful of that. Cultivating awareness will give us the understanding needed for change to come from the right place ... with the right intent (ie. not ego).
    How do we cultivate awareness? Eckhart Tolles' book 'A new earth' has helped me tremendously since last summer in understanding ego better which helps me see beyond it to the 'real' person underneath. He has told me how to create gaps between my thoughts where awareness is found by focusing on my breathing (it's hard to focus on breath and think at the same time). And apart from that just accepting events as they happen without resistance, and going with the flow whilst gently guiding your course so as not to get swept away ... i know from canoeing that you can drift along with the flow but need to have a paddle in the water to steady and adjust your course gently, or else you may topple and capsize. So it's partly to do with surrender ... getting out of your own way and allowing fate (god/goddess) to guide your life whilst listening for those moments when you need to do your 10% in acting upon your intuition when things feel right. I read a good definition of surrender recently; 'The recognition of neccessity'. ie. The things we know we need to do. - Again fostering awareness and understanding will help with this because the ego certainly cannot. Don't try to eliminate ego but just encourage it to let go of the CONTROL.
    Bah, i'm starting to lose my tack (i like this boating analogy).
    Breath, listen, meditate, surrender and try to see the person beyond their ego ...all these things will foster awareness, because awareness is the undoing of our egos grip
    Do what you want but don't do it to extremes. Everything in moderation ... we keep balanced this way.
    Some things, like for myself ..smoking because of it's sheer addictiveness, i will at some point need to make a concerted effort of WILL, because it won't fall away so easily. It's not the smoking itself but the attatchment and percieved need. Like i said everything in moderation.

    I'll get back.
     
  4. edenfield

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    I agree with you. I slipped down the Hill just recently, my work has a bit to do with it which don't help much too. Pressure and stress, the longing to be where I should be, It may sound strange, but since that dream I have felt odd. I havent been able to focus on anything....concentrate,trust in anything, soulless to the core. my dreams are random nonsense, or no dreams at all. 4Real..but not to worry, I know what I need to do, to get it back...that was also shown to me too that night! I'm am currently reviewing my rather tiresome situation>

    So, about your shamanic journey LiquidLight, what does that entail?
     
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    Ahem, well my landlady is having a hen night downstairs tonight with all her cackling friends ... about 30 of em, they're all dressing up and stuff, and on my way to make said coffee i was hijacked and forced to put on a lovely emerald frilly dress and white feather boa for their frigging fashion show! Oh well, it's not unknown, so i'm now sitting typing in said gear. LOL, i'll get a pic up if i can

    Yeah being hijacked at a hen night and forced to wear a dress IS very traumatic!
     
  7. edenfield

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    very traumatic.... leaving cracks in the psyche for a while, I know I have had one or two myself. Hope your ok. I need to go to bed now, I'm feeling tired. Hugs 2 U. xx

    EDIT...LOL.... I was becoming concerned back then,,,, frilly dresses indeed, mmm..
     
  8. liquidlight

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    hey thanks, I'm fine, that was a long time ago, seems like another lifetime really ;)
     
  9. edenfield

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    oh I wish that happen to me.

    After i got dumped by someone I gotten too attatched to, which was about a couple of years ago me and friends took E. In fact I had 3...everyone was high. Except me... I don't know why I needed 3 they were probably shit. Nothing happened like your experiences, I just felt warm inside and not very tired. But I wasn't feeling too spirited anyway.
    perhaphs being dumped is held deeply from my past somewhere, in childhood, my mom died when I was 11, and my dad left me and moved up the street about 10 doors up, i was very close to my dad and still am, but i don't think he could cope without a woman, so he moved in with his GF up the street, and left me to the mercy of my eccentic brother who i loved ..but did mad things, like hide under my bed and put his pet ferrets in my bed at night, to make me laugh, and my sister who at 18 had to play mom. So i suppose I was really never able to feel the loss back then, and because we were close family, me and my siblings had many a good time, (everything was all about positive experiences, very little conflict if any at all) everyone could pile round at ours with no discipline whatsoever, my dad would come round every night for a bit to check we were ok, and we hid everyone in the wardrobes, and smeared the amusing faces of the pictures on the walls,,,lol, then when he went back to his GF, after his nightly check on us the party started again...haha...and everyone emerged from under the coats and lamps....my dad knew all this really and he wern't bothered as long as we were safe and warm(he paid all the bills and bought all the food etc,,) so really my first dumping could probably well be a huge explosion from childhood past. So, Since I was dumped I've been scared to form a intimate relationship with a man, in case I get too attatched and it happens again.... it was too painfull, like u say, but also, me being me, I Imagined it was all my fault and wanted to get away from him so we could let each other go, but i imagined all the time he wanted to help me and make sure I was ok,(somewhere in my subconscious mind, I must have remembered my dad as being helpful and kind, which he is, he's always doing something for somebody) which made it harder for me to let go emotionally.
     
  10. liquidlight

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    Hey i removed my last couple of posts. It's been good for me to actually write it for once, yet i could have written it so many ways. I just feel i don't want that little story hanging around on the internet for an eternity.

    Well this shamanic journey for me was done by a guy called Richard in my town who set up the natural healing center here. He's half cherokee and he's been a practicing shaman and spiritual coucellor for over 25 years. Strangely two nights before my first session with him i had a dream My sister and i (i have a twin sister) were drifting downstream in a very large canoe and we had no paddle (hey remember what i was saying about having a paddle in the water?) ... the term, 'up shit creek without a paddle' comes to mind as there is indeed a shitty creek downstream from where i was in the dream in real life.Suddenly i was on land standing in front of a very centered, serious looking native american guy, and a big guy too. He wore a short eagle feather headdress which i believe denotes a chief. He just looked right through me for a while and didn't say anything. He was gonna help me out though.
    ... I wonder if it was Richard? Meeting richard was strange because i saw myself in him ...the kind of people we are, way we talk and express. And he also said that i reminded him of himself when he was my age. He introduced me to my white horse, a power animal we shared, and also a chinese 'martial arts type guy' with a staff (i think i met him in a dream once ...mmm a chinese element there). He had already done a shamanic journey for me ... on my behalf, that morning and he told me about it. He said that when he journeys he takes the form of ...well a native american, and travels through his usual entrance into the earth and goes down his tunnel, he was surprised to find feathers falling on his way and that he'd never encountered that before, so he travels further and further through darkness and eventually arrives at a shore of light and there's just light there and he didn't feel pure enough to enter but asked for power on my behalf, ... after a while a radiant woman with red golden hair blue eyes emerged and said, ok, tell him i'll return but he's got to listen to me and sort out his ideas and habits' , stern words but he felt that deep down she really loved me. With that she went back into the light, emerging again with dark hair and green or even purple eyes.

    That about the whole journey. Richard said that this woman he met was my teacher but also a part of me and that in that sense i was a teacher to myself.

    Actually i think i may have already met both women, the first, my ex i was talking about and the second, a girl i worked with a couple of years ago and had a bit of friction with at work ..a power struggle, i was her co supervisor until she clamoured for assistant managers job i didn't wan't and then started bossing myself and everyone about big time, i told her she couldn't behave like that and she was just fixed on the issue. The boss went on holiday and she turned dictator on everyone, another girl and myself resighned. She started having fainting fits and left due to that a few weeks later. I met her again briefly shortly afterwards and she seemed happy and was nice to me, i felt compassion for her about her fainting and everything and actually there was a warm feeling between us.
    Looking back she was so mutch like my ex in both character and appearance, both very attractive and lively, moody, bossy, playful, big mouthed, control freaks, but a part of the control and 'center of attentionness' is born of simple personal insecurity and ego, and simply understanding that allows it to be ok. I learnt a little late again this time to understand and have compassion, but this time there was no love lost and i actually feel i did the right thing in making a stand for myself when i thought things had gone too far. In fact it would be really nice to see her again.
    But all this isn't just limited to them because they are a mirror for things going on inside myself, and i thing it's all about learning balance, temperance, discipline and compassion and humility. ... not alot then. And lessons for me about control and letting go too. They however have their own issues also and thats another story. ...their stuff, and for ALL of us it's about learning to balance and harmonise our masculine and feminine viewpoints. It's as if i have always had opposing beliefs or thoughts about how i should live my life and what kind of morals or outlook i believe in. And now i think i'm learning that 'I' am parhaps neither and it's up to me to weigh these almost opposites and come to a mutually agreeable outcome and keep a balance.

    - You were asking about shamanic journeying ...
    I learned how to do shamanic journeying with richard at workshops also and found an aptidude for it but not mutch trust or belief in my experiences so i actually stopped after a year or more because i was needlessly going about analysing everything, symbology ect and it was doing my head in a bit. But i'm over doing that now, that was years ago and i think if i were to take it up again i could learn after mutch journeying not to get the mind involved and step back and just experience and observe. I think i'd like to.
    So a shamanic journey is a way to visit parts of our inner world through eyes closed visualisation of our sub concious, unconcious and super concious being, usually using a technique of choosing some kind of entrance into the earth or sky to explore and see what happens. This could be anything really from a hole in a tree or a cave or a pond or lake ... a rope falling from the sky or a cloud or bird carrying you upwards, perhaps climing a great tree. And so the journey begins and the rest takes care of itself with practice. Keep the mind free and unattached and dream, in time it'll become a bit like lucid dreaming, and on small doses of mushrooms sometimes i've had journeys literally and spontaniously take me out of normal reality and into a vivid lucid trance of a vibrant 'other world'. ...powerful journeys and after a good time of practicing journeying normally this is the kind of desired and obtainable journey ... more of a trance than a visualised meditation or state where you are perhaps more connected to the ordinary reality.
    Journeys in my experience seem to turn out like rather symbolic dreams often do basically, and i have found exact themes and characters, objects, words and meanings ect from journeys, cropping up in my dreams and the two become the same thing in essence and you realise it's the same basic ballpark world as dreaming. I guess this is what the Australian aborigonals call the dreamtime.
    Another thing about journeying is that over time it helps build a bridge, if you like, between your unconcious and concious mind. When unconcious things emerge it also brings about change, perhaps good and exciting or difficult and unsettling so one needs to stay grounded and not get carried away with it all.
    The person doing the journey is nearly always aided by repetitive or rhythmic drumming rattles, singing or chanting to help the concious mind let go of the normal reality. I've heard that drumming and rattles help induce our brainwave pattern to change. I actually prefer the crisp and sharp sound of a bead rattle.

    So thats 'shamanic journeying'. But i try not to get hung up on the 'shamanic' bit too mutch ... it's just a natural ability.


    Sad to lose your mum so young eh, but it sounds like you've had a good time nonetheless. I have no real regrets about my childhood or youth but i lost my eldest brother to leukemia when he was 15 and myself 12.. it did change our family dynamic in a sad way at times and all that grief came up to be healed in the year and a half i told you about.

    Sure i'm very familiar with that fear of forming an intimate, partnership for exactly the same reasons, but i've taken alot of time out to understand myself better and learn i think to hopefully remain an individual within a relationship without getting lost in the other and also to understand and feel that i don't NEED to be in a relationship, and leave those things more up to fate.
    :)

    ^^ heck thats probably my biggest post anywhere ever!
     
  11. edenfield

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    sounds good to journey that way. thanks for sharing.
     
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    That is extremely frightening to me. Depending on the setting and mannerisms of the dog(s), I could see this really scaring me.

    Which is strange because I don't have a fear of dogs... but something about what you described seems so scary.
     
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    i dream of black dogs, sometimes they keep their distance, in one dream i had when i was around 9 years old the black dog was trying to come into my basement through the window, and my real dog was fighting it. your goddess trilogies interest me. my husband dreams in threes too... interestingly enough my birthday is September 19th. 9/19... strange...
     
  14. liquidlight

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    super smash bros ... I used to have a fear of dogs when i was young because i was mauled in my stomach by a neighbours dog, it was a black and white collie mongrel ...and not particularly domesticated either. It was barring my way into their house and i was hesitant and showing too mutch fear ...it went for me. My own fault really. Dogs are dogs, not humans. But these days dogs seem to love me ...always very friendly.
    The black labradors in my dreams though seemed kinda neutral towards me ...guardians perhaps? Both warning me off but also protecting. Thats how it feels to me anyway. I havn't dreamed of them in a couple of years now anyway.
    I did have a dream the other night though:
    I was walking along a road at night with my landlady and her fiance (soon to be married) and we all saw a red fox trotting along the road ... however i saw a black wolf trotting alongside it and i told them about it (in the dream) but they didn't believe me. ..Oh well, ..strange dream though.

    Poet aster ... your husband dreams of women in threes? I'd like to hear from him if he'd like to say anything.

    This whole goddess thing started with me when i had a relationship years ago with a very beautiful woman who stole my heart big time ...and then tore it to pieces! In fact, looking at her she could be the personification of the goddess Brighid herself ... long golden red hair, blue eyes and a fiery and strong but also intuitive and loving temperment. She also claimed to be of celtic blood and was the eldest of three sisters. She was like a mirror for the goddess within me (my anima) which is why i fell for her so deeply. It was like meeting myself ...a soul mate. Her love turned to hate and she dumped me and to this day with all i've learned since, i still don't understand quite what i did to piss her off so mutch.
    As far as i understand when people fall in love they sometimes project the image of their anima/animus (their god/goddess ...the image and embodiment of their perfect partner) onto eachother but this illusion/fantasy cannot last and falls away leaving just themselves as they really are... just normal, lovable, imperfect human beings ...not gods and goddesses. Our real gods and goddesses lie within us, seeking expression and integration with our psyche and being. When we can balnce and harmonise the male /female aspects of ourselves and become more whole ...not seeking our perfect love outside of ourselves, then we can have REAL relationships without this projection stuff getting in the way. I feel this is what happened to her and myself... We fell for a projection/illusion and were both dissapointed when we couldn't live upto eachothers expectations.
    Anyway i was left to work out this mystery and to make peace with myself ultimately, and thats when the dreams of the goddess started.
    - At first it was her in my dreams ...we were making up, forgiving eachother and loving eachother, but at the time i coudn't understand why she in the flesh (my ex) was hating me so mutch whilst in my dreams she was loving me so mutch ... this is when i started realising they were separate, and it took me ages to realise, with the help of some reading that this was my own (and everyones) feminine self communicating in dreams.
    Yet these projections stick on certain people for a reason, and that is because those certain people are actually capable of embodying that projection ...at least for a while and so for me she (my ex) kindly played the role of my destroyer ... painfully waking me up to the realisation that i was treating women like objects (heck i was young, ignorant, unconcious and scared of intimacy ... i never realised there was so mutch more to people ... men too). So i deserved my rude awakening :)

    There's more but i think i've typed enough for now. Interesting about your birthdate ...and also that you're 27 (=9). Maybe you have some goddess stuff going on with you ...which could also explain your husbands dreams to some extent too.
    Do you happen to be one of three sisters? Or mother of three daughters? Perhaps?

    I myself am the youngest of three brothers and have a twin sister which all seems significant, symbolically speaking, to me also.
     
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    i had 2 black labradors many many years ago but i never dream of them but I had a dream of a cow once, I was chauffered to a place and inside my twin brother(yes i also have a twin brother lol) and there was this one teenage girl with long dark wavey hair about 14 trying to get his attention, he was just sat in class listening to the teacher... then outside i was chauffered back, and got out at a spot near a field. this black and white cow looked at me and came over and told me to get on her back and she took me down the meadow. then I put on my brothers boots he left me and i woke up lol.
     
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    Hey thats great, you also rode on the cows back.

    And you're a twin too! Awww! :)
     
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