religion is the real cospiracy

Not for anything, but that sounds exactly what many religions say to other religions. I am not saying atheism is a religion, definitely not, but that statement sounds very familiar to me. Can you not see how that is coming off?

"It's the 21st century, and people still have a disbelief in God and his prophets. Atheism in all shapes and forms are blasphemies. Christians should rise up and destroy the infidel before the infidel destroys us all".

Watch out that you don't make the same mistake as 'them', and turn into the very thing that you hate. All belief systems has its zealot.

"No, we got rid of all of the 'isms" - South Park.


Also, if a religion truly teaches peace, and people aren't fulfilling their beliefs by not improving on themselves, and forgiving themselves and others, then can you say that they are true believers of the faith? Our president can call himself a Christian, goto church every sunday, then decide to keep us in war. That is what people SAY that they are, but are they really? Doesn't it require of them to showcase their belief through action? I would like to think so.

If a police force starts up, creates a creed that every one of its members should follow, cops then become corrupt, then is that the fault of the creed or the supposed followers? Dislike those that don't follow up to what they SUPPOSEDLY believe in, not the message itself.

Furthermore, I believe that the Bible is grossly misinterpreted. The Bible is a very complex read and requires a deep understanding of ancient culture, history, and the meaning behind the words being used. It also requires the reader to take the stories as metaphors in many cases. Many people use the Bible to excuse their homophobia. For instance, people misinterpret the whole sodom and gomorrah (s/p?) story, and say: "SEE, GOD HATES GAYS!!!". But a deeper understanding would reveal that God wasn't upset at homosexuals, he was furious over the use of sadomy as a controlling agent. Everyone mounted each other to show their dominance over each other, and that is the evil part about it - What was evil was forceful behavior.

I won't claim to be an expert on the Bible, but who here really can? Not many, I'd imagine, and either can I. But the very fact that such a thing requires a lot of mental power just shows that it can be a very respectable study, and indeed it is. If you believe that God wrote it or not, was inspired by God, or neither, doesn't really matter. The Bible can deliver a very deep learning experience and is actually very philosophical in nature - It seeks to ask and answer many existential questions.

There are good atheists, and there are bad atheists. There are good Christians, and there are bad Christians. But can you call yourself something if your actions are completely contradictory - What goes on in peoples heads AFTER they profess their beliefs? In person they can say they belong to a system of belief, but inside their heads, can profess something completely differently. And sorry, but that person doesn't deserve to be mingled in with a system that they themselves contradict.

What we should all hate is hate itself. Hate is the TRUE evil.

"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose." - William Shakespeare

 

"What we should all hate is hate itself."
OH SHI-

 

idk, im making my own belief system but its not a religion, so far i have a high respect for (but do not worship) the sun, shit, and marijuana... feel free to help me add to this list and back it up with support too.

 

Atheism already tried that.

 

Religions are generally a form of conspiracy, in that it is a group of people acting together to support, further and/or carry out a shared agenda/belief(s). Doesn't make any difference if what they believe is real or not.

 

From what I understand, Zeitgeist explained that Jesus was the sun, not God.
True, Jesus is a piece of God, but not God...that's silly. I'm not a Christian, btw, but I feel like God is vastly complicated & to come up & be a Richard Dawkins or something is rediculous because even science is ongoing. &, to me & most logical thinkers, science just explains how God works.

The problem is that man are just pieces of God, so there is no way for us to understand any of this COMPLETELY, so for anyone to think all of this is so simple & so small & "look at all these stupid zealots" is ignorant.

Not that being a zealot is necessarily a good thing, but DO NOT forget that all these people outside of you, so different & abstract are really just another piece of the God- puzzle we're all twisted up in. We're are all brothers & sisters not to a "father" of resentment & control but simply facets to one big great WOW.

Atheists are my brothers too, because like them I feel the resentment of organized religion & its disgusting intermingling with politics & power (why are there still Catholics??? this makes no sense!! & where was I for that simplified apology???).

I say, just take pieces, because we are all pieces anyway & there is only ONE absolute. This is why fundamentalism is dangerous & wrong because these people think they know God (exclusively); however they are only worshipers of a grain of sand while there is a whole celestial beach out there.

If we all got together & glued our pieces together, wow...that'd be chill. But, no...we can't because "oh he's a Christian" or "oh he's an atheist" or oh, "he's a republican" or democrat, white, black, profession, opinion, concept...

But this is all an illusion! Religion, self, uniqueness... WHAT EVER MADE YOU THINK YOU WERE SO ALONE?

(but don't dismiss the mask completely...this is how we "DO" life. Just don't let the tool run the man...)

 

I really don't like the Catholic Church, either, tbh.

The Pope is just a modern day king... 1 billion followers...

 

Agreed. The Catholic Church manipulates and controls a lot of the money and world government.

 

Being a what i consider myself a Heretic Catholic at this point I would like to say it quite the reverse...

The church is employed by the state to scare the fuck outta the sheep... conform or go to hell for all eternity.

It's one peice of the over all smoke and mirrior illusion that has kept us all enslaved for the the last several thousand years...

 

Brings to mind the quote of a friend when asked what Agnosticism is..

"Agnosticism is when somebody is humbled enough, and smart enough, to admit that they know nothing (for sure) about the workings of the universe."

I tend to agree, if everyone took this approach, there wouldn't be much arguing and fighting about who's right and who's wrong. As for religion in general? I don't much approve, but I don't approve of denying people their right to believe what they want to believe either.

 

I tend to agree with that. Having delved into a myriad of beliefs throughout my lifetime, yeah...that's about right. I have to believe there is a creator out there somewhere of all this beauty and ruckus....but I won't dare guess or assume as to what he or she is.

My only real question to life and what it's all about is, IF there is no creator that cares - then why do we suffer all of the love/loss/joy/hate/dispair that we do? Do all these experiences mean nothing?

When I die, if I just go back to dust as if I never existed and all this meant nothing, then I'm going to be royally pissed off.

 

that is a truly great quote.

 

And you're truly hot. :O Sorry, been wanting to say that. Totally off topic, but men usually are, when they wake up.

 

its cool; i don't get butthurt like most women. Thank you!

 

The real conspiracy is hate, as corny as that sounds.

I never read any hate blogs, and when I do, never take it seriously: Those blogs where people are yelling and screaming into their video camera about how much they hate Muslims isn't helping anything, but merely adding to the conflict.

"If you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you". You essentially become the very thing that you focus on/hate.

Focus on love, and your world will become love (at least for you). The world would be a peaceful place if everyone just focused on love rather than whats the next thing they should scapegoat or hate. That may be a very 'idealistic' approach to life, but I'm afraid that it really is all that simple. Don't waste your hate on anyone or anything other than yourself (Waste My Hate on You - Metallica - Good song).

 

You're welcome! I don't know why most women get all cranky when you say that. Must have bad self esteem.. Back on topic here! You're right, Zep, in a way.. I don't think it's just hate, but fear as well.. There's something in our puny human brains that makes us fear and hate anything differerent in most scenarios that rivals our own lifestyle, causing us to cluster in to smaller groups of the same feather.. I'm not sure why we need labels for the way we live our lives, be it a religious one, or some other form of group mentality, but I think it's time we just band as humans and forget the details..

We're getting closer and closer to long range space travel, and if we're too busy fighting amongst ourselves, true threats wont have any trouble trampling all over us.. Though I can say humans need a bit more skill in democracy, we will probably end up making enemies with outsiders by judging too quickly, or fearing difference again.

I think Humanity is a lost cause, really, we haven't changed all that much except technologically, throughout history, with the exception of some who use their minds over their brains. (If you don't know the difference, just think about it for awhile..)

 

Many would say that hate is fear masked.

You're basically saying that humanity needs to reach for a common goal, like your example of space travel, that can bring us together, and I definitely agree.

No more ends justify the means BS of handling problems. I think we have already seen that doesn't work. Just a brief look over world history and you'll know this is true.

Humanity isn't a lost cause, but I'd say that isn't so far from being true. We need to find a way to go beyond altruism as a people and I believe this comes from self-knowledge. The school system focuses too much on math and science and never dabbles with inner growth.

Kids are taught the differences between an atom and a particle, (those are soulless and lifeless information... Albeit still important) but are like a deer in the headlights when it comes to existential questions, including questions on how one should deal with life's problems... 'Wisdom' studies should be just as respectable a study as any other.... but I digress...

 

THANK YOU. This is why I'm homeschooling.
Government schools (grumble, grumble)...

 

anything that has a lot of popular apeal, tends to sooner or later get coopted and corrupted by intrests having their own agenda and little of nothing to do with the real motivation for its origen.

that's why we've had so many revelations over the millinea, to renew the good part of its intended spirit. why i believe its the same god/gods doing so, each and every time.

why i beleive moses, christ, mohammid, baha'u'llah, and all the others, even buddha, krshna, and lao tsu, were all chosen by the same god/gods to channel it.

even those like buddha, who wasn't told to mention a god at all, and krshna and some of the others, who may have represented the god concept, as multiple.

it certainly is though, a conspiracy of intrests such as economic greed, that corrupts, perverts, and uses organized beleif to ends which have nothing to do with the will of any god, real or imagined

and it IS those, not the real spirit of it, that is represented by fanatacism of every stripe, knowingly or not, as well.

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Finally somebody who calls it exactly the way the Nika sees it.