It's the END OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Do you guys believe in the whole end of the world garbage? Personally, I don't think God would create this world just to destroy it so I believe that the world will never end. The whole sun turning into a red giant is a theory anyway and I don't see why people believe in it so strongly since anything science based is just a theory. Also, the whole supernova thing is impossible, our sun isn't large enough to perform such an act. It's also my belief that more than likely humans will not become extinct. I mean, we are the smartest beings to have walked this planet so I'm sure our race will prosper.

What do you guys think?

 

The way you speak of God creating this world sounds very orthodox. I think the idea is that God created the world to be a test, perhaps, which will lead to the day of judgement, reserection or whatever you want to call it. That is what i have been told anyway, but not being religious myself i am quite possible wrong.



I think it will end but it will be alot different than what you are thinking. There are better things in this universe than death and destruction.

I don't know about the sun.

 

Chris's ideas about God aren't orthodox at all. They sound Protestant more than anything else. The alternative you present is much more orthodox-sounding.

"The World" means a lot more than it used to. What would constitute the end of the world? The destruction of the earth? IMO since our consciousness involves an idea of the universe, only the destruction of the entire universe could really be "the end of the world." Or maybe one's own death is the true end of the world, since in death one can no longer act in the physical world.

 

I think god has mad life experimants out there, I think if this one gets fucked away, god will put it in the "lessons learned" file.

 

"I am Legend" will become a true story more or less...

 

My ideas sound orthodox? You mean the day of judgement stuff? Those are not my ideas/beliefs i was meaning they are generally orthodix views(from what i understand)?
My beliefs are nothing like that at all.
Hope it doesn't sound like i am arguing. Just trying to get my point across, which is often difficult over then internet

 

Humans will definitely destroy the planet one way or another. I've always said humankind is too intelligent for it's own good. All out technologies, all our advancement. But then again it makes one ponder why we evolved to be so intelligent in the first place. Maybe it was just nature losing control of the situation.

Nature also has ways of cleaning up messes. Mass extinction.

There's no way our species will survive as it is now for another few billion years until the sun dies. We've only been around 10,000 years as we are now.....

 

Humans, intelligent?

 

Haha, sadly.

 

If God was as big of a jerk as some people make him out to be we'd be frightened to do anything ever.

Personally, I don't believe the world will end. I base this on the ongoing gathering of evidence that, when the world has predicted to end, it never has, and the prediction has always been "reinterpreted" (i.e. changed) after it has failed to provide any useful results. The whole universe will eventually "end" - heat death will render all movement of anything impossible, effectively destroying the possibility of linear time - but that's not why people predict the end of the world. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not assuming anything. But I've never met a happy, well-adjusted person who thought that the world was going to end imminently - it's always people who, funnily enough, have very little else going for them.

 

I think you're idea of theory is a bit off.

From Wikipedia:

"In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and the theory of general relativity."


It doesn't mean it's just guesswork, it's certain that the Sun will turn into a red giant in a few hundred billion years. I certainly doubt we'll be around then though. We've been around for a tiny blip on the life of the planet, but I doubt we'll be around in a million years. As has been said, we're too clever for our own good. There's no way in fuck the worlds gonna end any time soon though, we might wipe ourselves (and half the species on the planet to boot) out at some point, but the earth's pretty good at recovering.

 

sure the human species will become either extinct or unrecognizable and no longer tied to a single solar system, and that long before there is any physical danger to the planet itself. but were talking a time frame orders of magnitude longer then anything like humans on this planet have as yet existed so far. hundreds of thousands of years at least. though there will likely be some close calls before then, the biggest current risk coming from our carelessness with our environment and the motivations for that carelessness.

what will come to an end within a few hundred years, if not a mere very few decades, is the internal combustion powered automobile, quite likely anything resembling the car as we know it today at all, warfare, and the existence of currently dominant cultures and idiologies.

and that doesn't mean replacement by less currently dominant currently existing ones, nor more or less forgotten ones from the past either.

yes there ARE other possibilities, an infinite diversity of them. and in a few decades everything we think is the begining and end of everything now, will have been almost completely forgotten.

before humanity can 'prosper' it will have to go through some thoroughly major chainges. population growth will have to have reversed, drastically, and restabilized at a more optimum level. something like the numbers of us that existed somewhere between 1750 and 1910.

tecnology will continue to advance, though with perhapse a few hiccups now and then too, but will cease entirely to be dependent on the use of combustion to generate energy or propel transportation.

so there will be fewer of us, living happier and more gratifying lives, 'closer to the earth', with as yet unimagined tecnologies, using them also, to facilitate living closer to the earth ways more gratifying and comfortable, if not perhapse as unsustainably conveinient to mindlessness.

none of which is to say there won't be a few close calls, nor that we're not neccessarily on the brink of one or more of them right now. one i don't expect to take primarily the form of warfare, though there may be conflicts percipitated by it here and there, as we are already seeing.

other then finite things that we're using up, like oil and coal, it isn't that resources are getting all that much less, its just that we've gotten so damd many of us for them to go arround.

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christians will blow up the world with nukes
to believe in god they must believe in armeghedon and hurry it along to justify theyre beliefs

the end of the world is christianities final "i told you so""

 

I think humans are meant to be the dominant species of this planet. No other race of creatures to ever walk this planet has come so far. I don't think nature lost control of the situation, I think nature picked us to be the dominant species of this planet. Otherwise, we wouldn't have made it so far.

Also, the main reason I don't believe in the sun dying is because it's a scientific theory which means that it could be totally wrong. For all we know, scientists just cooked up this theory to get people riled up.

 

Errmmm, again Chris, you seem to misunderstand what scientific theory means. Gravity is a scientific theory, that we breath air is a scientific theory ect. It doesn't mean it's a blind guess.

Billions of years of evolution have picked us to be the dominant species, but that doesn't mean we'll last forever.

 

we are going to just slowly kill our planet with our pollution. and shitty habits.

 

I'm not saying it's blind guessing (I guess that's my mistake for not clariying more) but that some of the theories made could be wrong. I'm not saying all science is wrong because that'd make me an idiot. All I'm saying is that some things such as this could be wrong and could be their guess at what could possibly happen.

 

I don't think there's ever going to be enough pollution to just straight up kill us. Besides, a good portion of the pollution that's made leaves the planet anyway.

 

chris you believe in god? a religios theory cooked upo to rile u up sand control you suns are born and die thats reality invosible men creating universes by snapping theyre fingers.. thats fantasy

yet u believe the fantasy?

people are not the domminant life form insects are we are outnumbered by them billions to one..
your body is home to billions of germs and insects you are theyre food
are you so dominant when your just cattle to microbes? food for the truely dominant species?
who will be left when were gone..cockroaches...

 

Ah ok, it just seemed like you were denouncing all science or something hehe. The life cycle of stars is pretty much proven. But I very much doubt it'll affect us, the horse shoe crab species is about 400 million years old. We've been around 200,000 in our modern form. We're not a particularly stable species though. The sun will die, but I very much doubt they'll be any humans left to see it.