random question i have...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by carl's Jr, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. carl's Jr

    carl's Jr Member

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    whyy is it a sin to be gay??
    can u really be born like that??
    just wonderiin...
     
  2. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    are you religious?
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Because idiots interpret the Bible to say so.
     
  4. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    the answer would fill a small book. and i'm lazy.
     
  5. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    I retract my statement. I didnt read your sig, and now it seems obvious you are religious. One set of people started the one type of belief system you may or may not completely agree with but follow. What would provoke you to think they are the be all and end all on what is right and wrong? Other than not thinking at all.
     
  6. Van_Gogh

    Van_Gogh Senior Member

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    if gay guys dated women theyd be the best boyfriends.
     
  7. carl's Jr

    carl's Jr Member

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    well,, i am religiouse,, but in my own way. i belive in god i do belive there is one,, i just dont relaly go by the bible, people wrote it not god... so idk ii dont hate gay ppl or sayy there the devil or anthi8ng,, im just curiouse...
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    Sodomy is immoral, ask Larry Craig.
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    b/c paul was an asshole who fancied himself Jesus.

    at any rate, they now have reason to believe that in some cases yes people are born gay.
     
  10. carl's Jr

    carl's Jr Member

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    what do you mean bc paul was an asshole who fancied himself jesus?
     
  11. Van_Gogh

    Van_Gogh Senior Member

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    meaning he wanted it the booty by good ol JC.

    i think people are just straight up born gay. You know, the little boy who joins theatre and notices his teachers highlights in her hair at like age 7.
     
  12. neodude1212

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    meaning he is the source of a lot of the more hateful "spiritual truths" that churches thrive on today.

    Jesus himself never said a word about gays.
     
  13. myself

    myself just me

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    I don't see being gay as a sin. It's just the way some people were born and it's not their fault.
     
  14. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    well...

    technically it isn't claimed that being gay is a sin.
    the actual act of homosexuality is what is considered a sin by some.

    "a man shall not lie with a man as a man does with a women"
     
  15. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Exactly as long as homosexuals take a vow of celibacy they’re free of sin to pursue a life of love (with another man) or take up a life of religious or spiritual fulfillment [​IMG]



    Hotwater
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    different beliefs have these things that people have to do or not do as a kind of exercise to build up their self dicipline to mindfulness. these are social principals of that particular belief, not really a part of the spirituality of it, nor of the avoidance of harm to the rest of the world and of sentient existence. they are in a way the price of associating oneself with a particular belief, or a particular segment of a particular belief.

    there is nothing universe among beliefs or even among the parts of particular beliefs like christianity that have many such different sub beliefs within them.

    the big rights and wrongs are the things that affect the conditions all of us have to live with. things like what anyone goes to bed with, where, when or how often, arn't really the beggining or end of that sort of thing at all.

    if you want to call yourself part of a belief that doesn't accept gay sex or alcohaul or mind altering substances or what have you, well that is the price of doing so, but there's no legitimacy to anyone trying to condem anyone who isn't claiming affiliation with that belief or try to tell them how to live their life on the basis of the letter of it.

    there are many beleifs and parts of beliefs where each thing that doesn't involve harming others is perfectly acceptable, and all of them partake ultimately from the same well of spiritness.

    so its not as if any of these things is utterly wrong universally, only that they invalidate claims of association with those particular beliefs that exclude them.

    there are a lot of positive things that can be said for gay sexual preference, as much as the negatives that go with any risky behaivior, gay or streight. one of the best of these is that its not contributing to the problem of excess human population, and for those who find gratification in it, and don't have a repulsion to it, well i'm happy for them.

    so i'm certainly not about to condem anyone for it, and don't have a very high opinion of anyone who would. its not my own thing though. i just see nothing wrong, intrinsicly, with it for those for whome it is.

    christianity may be a valid system of belief, or more like a vary large and somewhat unrully family of systems of belief, but its certainly not any sort of end all and be all standard of them.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  17. 121

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    It's not a 'sin'. If a guy prefers to stick his penis in another man's hairy bum hole :)rmoon2: ) then theres more ladies avaliable for us hetros... awesome!
     
  18. mitten_kitten

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    Sins are made up by man. The bible was written by man. What consenting adults do with each other is nobody's business...and plenty of the stuffed shirts preaching about the sin of being gay are hiding in the closet anyway...since they are already obsessed with sex.

    No one can possibly know what happens after death, or whether there is heaven and hell or whatever. Period. Religion is based on the FAITH that there is heaven and hell...but I have faith that nothing bad will happen after death because what would be the point? you're already dead. Nothing can hurt or kill you.
     
  19. stinkfoot

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    I'd think that anything otherwise would present a major moral conflict with many who have opted to take the life path of a priest. The concept of sin is a man made mechanism by which people can be separated and sorted- it is a tool that one group of people uses to help create the illusion that they are better than another. All too often the terminally self righteous wind up getting tripped up by their own standard and not only look like hypocrites but also like idiots.... basically what kitten mitten said^^^^
     
  20. lode

    lode Banned

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    Because gay sex is too tempting for god. He thinks it's soooo...hot.

    He wants big strong arms wrapped around him, and someone to grab and squeeze his immaculate starfruit.
     

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