OMG YES WORDS ARE BULLETPROOF MR. CREADY! WORDS, IDEAS, THOUGHTS, CONSCIOUSNESS... you summarized in 4 lines what it once took me almost 10000 characters to write out. :O
But it has had its worthwhile moments when we've gotten offtrack. Maybe we should do that more often. Or start another thread.
Huh? Look...I'm impressed with Dawkins in tons of ways. He makes great points that make you ponder no matter what you believe. But, I really think people who believe in God have to answer for their beliefs ALL the time. I ask the Atheist forum about creation without something to draw from and it causes mass panic. LOL I've been answered with questions, talked down to, insulted, then after retaliated insulted again by someone who my retaliation wasn't even targeted at. My biggest problem? I care that I might've hurt peoples feelings which was NEVER my intent. I wanted to shake the cage a little.LOL Why should I have to tell Atheists to lighten up? LOL Anyway, since I've obviously won this debate I'm gonna go pray for y'all and date my cousin.
You did that, brother, but I don't think they caught the humor. They may not have ventured over to the Christian site to see what we endure daily from FedUp & Company. I know he's your friend, but it takes getting used to.
Earthbound why? Are you afraid I'll make out with your mama? Mama into 35 year olds? I'll get the Chapstick you get the mama! SMOOCHIE SMOOCHIE Earthbound's mama. Hey, by the way LOVE your quote. That's so cool. To listen to Bob Marley and quote him on Hip Forums. You're SO cool. Your mama would be proud. But, not as proud as she will be when I get the Chapstick! Then when I'm finished...DEAN'S MAMA IS NEXT! It's a TWO TUBER!
he may well be. remember, we are 15 years younger, and if he is a very primitive form of human and we are very evolved forms, then he's bound to sound pretty ridiculous to those who know better
I actually thought that was kinda funny. Good stuff. LOL There you go Zilla you win...You finally got my approval. Bravo! I'm done here. Love y'all. Still praying!
No, I have given you two: justice and mercy. These are abstract concepts which only exist i we want them to. They have no point of reference in nature. OK, we might now create them based on former points of reference, but it was not always so. This is part of my problem with the question: "proving" that we cannot create something without a point of reference doesn't prove that we never have. There was a lot more stuff to invent than there was 100 years ago. I feel that you've decided that this is impossible and built your reasoning based on that assumption. If you can show how it is impossible, rather than merely assert it, we might be able to get past this first hurdle, and you can then begin to explain the next stage of your thought process. Or maybe you don't want to?
exactly. you're not looking at this scientifically. you do not ASSERT - you attempt to DISPROVE the hypothesis. FAITH ain't gonna cut it in the agnosticism and atheism forum...
I also like the idea that colours are created by mixing other colours together. As if that's how colour even works. It'd be so beautifully naïve if the guy wasn't insisting we were all avoiding this discussion. Can someone pose the exact question he did in the religions' forums please? I want to compare. The guy seems to think atheists are unable to answer the question the way he wants them to because they're atheists, but I don't see him using any kind of control group.
this is like reading an argument with a brick wall lol lets just say your right for a sec (you aren't, but clearly never gonna convince you of that) so we CAN'T create anything with no point of referece........ HOW does this PROVE the EXISTANCE OF GOD???
Look first off if ANY of you have read the thread and not distorted it. Or thought I was talking to you when I wasn't. Or answered my question with a question. Or told me I wasn't bright then couldn't spell simple words. Or insulted me then ended your post with peace and love. You could see how logically, my point is very valid. This isn't going to happen though. DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA You're WRONG. Hey, I'm gonna make a point even though you mentioned this point earlier. I'm not gonna read the posts I'm just gonna post. MORE DRAMA Hey, I know you said beyond a shadow of doubt this is not what you're talking about but I'm going to mention it. DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA LOL And you're welcome for the high post count. If anyone wants to continue this debate please PM me. Thanks. I'm prayin' for y'all! =)
LOL!! This statement really says it all. It showcases exactly how closed minded you are on the topic. You claim intention of pointing out a possibility and then insist it is therefore a victorious fact!!! I keep reading you say that nobody has answered your questions. I have answered both and you have done little to acknowledge this and provide true reasoning for your self proclaimed victory.
I posted this before in the other long god/no god debate thread entitled "i can prove the existence of god right now"... Science it's laws and theories are only accepted because they best predict outcomes of repeated events and circumstances. They are still part of an overall grandiose universal pattern that we still have not explained. (With Scientific Experiment ... we have mathematically). In lieu of this we can then logically accept the inevitable example i used in the other thread that two scientists can sit in a court of law and argue one another and try to discredit one another using the same set of scientific laws INTERPRETED in diffrent manners... Hence forth... it's all a matter of faith. Where do you put yours? Science? Spiritual Teaching? Merger of both Maybe in the quantum... mechanic realm ? - HUGS - The Nika
Hi again Relaxxx The only victory to be had is to give in to unconditinal love of all don't mind portalguy he'll get it sooner or later. lata gata