who was kathy change and who did she change??

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  1. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    http://www.kathychange.org/

    kathy was change transformation a buring spirit trying to wakeup america
    im sorry this only picture of her (and the arist behind her is fom http://www.tiberinomuseum.com/ )

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    in the 11 years since dance for freedom in flames offering her life to transformation building a better society and what has she changed if we cant change ourselves?

    can we wait till october to start thinking about change?
    students..u guys got the brains walk on out sit down and spend as long as it takes figurin out how to fix things

    i think we bettr sooner rather then later
    lets not protest lets congess sit down and find a way to fix things quickly...change has to be bold
    kathy taught me that and many things

    now is when we need change the most it will come from us all people just sitting down together and figuring out how to fix things
     
  2. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    is everybody asleep out there?



    this was a freind of mine a beautiful burning beacon of transformation and hope for a better society 11 years ago she gave her life to her message & its about time we get around to makin the changes she gave her life to...if we let things get too much more fucked up tho were screwed dont protest sit down and find a way to..progress...come up with a plan...damn i cant believe noone cares..
     
  3. nodirectionhome

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    Wow.

    That was a really interesting article. It was inspirational, too... up to the point where she kills herself... [​IMG]
     
  4. soaringeagle

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    ok i take it everyones just so fucking happy woith the way things are huh? noone wants anything to ever change i guess? what the fuck is wrong with you people?
    this was a close personal freind of mine who was the most dedicated activist i have ever met..she lived her whole fucking life as a symbol of change and noone cared she made the ultimate sacrifice for all of you transforminmg her body into a torch of liberty her spirit into a burning beacon of transformation .. she gave her death to you as a warning against armeghedon
    every fuckin day of her life she worked her ass off to wake you the fuck up

    and look around this site.. a thread about ass licking gets 100000 replies in a single day and a thread abiyt ..my fuckin freind who gave her fucking life for your fucking sakes gewts 1 reply in 3 months?

    go on sleeping pretending nothings wrong
    go on thinking your vidio games drugs tv and mindless entertainments more important then fixing the fucking world


    ewhen it all falls apart..you'll be the ones in ashes

    you will never learn as long as you allow yourselves to remain asleep

    i'm fucking ashamed of all the bullshit on this site anymore

    of its not sex or drugs or mindless stupidity noone cares?

    do i gotta wait a year fot 1 person to give a shit about making a change?

    too stoned or too busy masterbating to give a shit?

    sorry for all the fucking fuckings... im kinda pissed
    the worlds gone to shit and noone cares cause everyones so fucking distracted with mindless entertainment and stupidity
     
  5. soaringeagle

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    http://www.jonhassell.com/atmosphere/kc.html


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    (edit to add: maybe gotta show some skin to get the attention of yiou fucking lazy assed motherfuckin chronic masterbating drug addicsrs? maybe would hellp to mention the pot leaves on her flags? maybe thats all ya care about? maybe while looking at the spot where she died all yoi can see is partial nudity? im fucking ashamed of every one of you)


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    [FONT=&quot]EXT FORWARDED FROM "THE DAILY PENNSYLVANIAN":[/FONT]The following is the full of text of a note, directed at the Penn (U. of Pennsylvania) community, that was enclosed in one of the packages of materials that Kathy Change distributed the morning of October 22nd 1996, the day she set fire to herself.

    [FONT=&quot](Note that this was written in the atmosphere surrounding the first Gulf War. -jh)[/FONT]


    [FONT=&quot]All that you have and cling to in fear[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Is as worthwhile as a poisoned pie.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]A universe full of love and wonderful possibilities[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Would be yours if only you would reach for it.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You are sitting in timid conformity[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]On a hayride to hell.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You're just about there.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Get off that truck now.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Break out of the ranks of evil[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Do a dance for freedom.[/FONT]



    cointinued
    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
     
  6. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    [FONT=&quot]I am angry, impatient, full of anxiety[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And full of hope and love[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]But after 18 years of trying and being rejected[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And being a pariah and a fool[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I have finally concluded that my charism[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And social magnetism register high on the negative scale.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Now that I've put in the first word,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]This movement that I've tried to start,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Would probably do better without me,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]So I will try to make a dramatic exit. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]I've tried to do this several times before,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And failed.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If this is the right thing to do,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Heaven will help me.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If not,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Well,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Nevermind. I'll be seeing you around.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]I look at you and you are so beautiful[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]It makes me shy.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Your sympathy makes me want to hide[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Because I feel unworthy.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]For the cause I want to grab you[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Drag you to meetings and demonstrations[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]But I'm afraid of putting you on the spot[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Making you uncomfortable, scaring you away[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]So I am frozen in wanting[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]to merge my mind and heart with yours[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Imprisoned by the invisible barriers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]That I know must be broken through[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]I scream shrilly[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I am an ungainly presence[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Trying to break through the complacency[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]with my wild rage.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I have crashed this party[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I do not belong here.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]But you do. You are the children of the host.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You can talk to each other as peers[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And take your rightful places[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]At academia's table[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]with calm and gracious poise.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]As crazy as I have been,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You can be cool.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Have confidence in your beliefs[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You are a step ahead of everybody else.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Underneath their herd stupidity[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Even the demo emulating morons and their sold out mentors[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Who appear to be the majority in your milieu,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Are human beings[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Who long for the world to be freed and set right[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Even though they don't know it.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Do them the great kindness of forgiving their stupidity[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]And put them in touch with the real heart[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Of humanity.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]To reach through the mask [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Is your task.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
     
  7. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    [FONT=&quot]There is so much at stake;[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The country, the world, the future.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Don't be put off by trivialities.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]With you as its champion[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Good will surely triumph.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]How great will be your glory[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]How multitudinous will be your blessings[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The highest happiness will be yours.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]For many years I have though that Penn[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Would be a good place to start the Transformation.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If this action I am taking succeeds[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I hoped it might spark some interest[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]In what I was trying to say.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I hoped my writings would be printed and made available.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Maybe Transformation Parties could be held.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]I am taking this action out of hope[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Not despair.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]By destroying my material corpus[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I want to free my spirit[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]So that it can jump inside of you[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I think that you would enjoy being filled[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]with conviction and can-do optimism[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I think you would feel good[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]to be cleansed of the blase brain rot that clogs your mind[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Yes there is such a thing as true morality, a real[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]distinction between good and evil, right and wrong.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Decisive moves must be made on behalf of good.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]These are the addresses of some Penn people to whom[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I have sent my packages.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Maybe you would like to meet and talk.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I have also sent packages to WXPN[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]and the Daily Pennsylvanian.[/FONT]



    [FONT=&quot]October 7, 1996[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] The multitudinous war crimes and crimes against humanity of the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]U.S. government have been documented and detailed, and every American is more[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]or less aware of the criminality of his government, and yet we continue to[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]respect its power and authority. We continue trying to work through the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]electoral process. We plead with our congress people to work for the well[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]being of all the people and the planet instead of catering to the special[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]interests of big money and organized crime. It is as though Gary Heidnik, the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]man who imprisoned, tortured and murder women in his basement, was the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]headmaster of a girls' prep school; and upon discovery of his crimes,he was[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]duly criticized, but allowed to remain in his position of power and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]responsibilty, presumably to continue his atrocities. The U.S. government is[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]a much bigger and far worse criminal than Gary Heidnik, and it must be relieved[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]of its duties immediately without further bureacratic hemming and hawing. The[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]crimes of this present system are so enormous, an the dangers to which it is[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]exposing us are so deadly and world threatening, that a sincere and forthright[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]call to the American people to depose this evil system and come together now to[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]peacefully replace it with true democracy, would be received with an[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]overwhelmingly positive response from the people. Media workers are in a[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]position to make this call and it is their responsibility to do so.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] It is a waste of energy to get angry and gripe at the government. The[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]government must be replaced by a truly democratic selfgovernment of, for and by[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]the people. Those people working in industries essential to maintaining life[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]should democratically take over their work places and organize an emergency[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]economy to supply the needs of the people. The rest of the people should meet[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]in their communities to organize a new directly democratic community based[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]selfgovernment. This should be done immediately, because every day that we[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]continue with business as usual, the problems just get worse.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] I [/FONT]
     
  8. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    I [FONT=&quot]want to protest the present government and economic system and the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]cynicism and passivity of the people in general. I want to protest this[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]entirely shameful state of affairs as emphatically as I can. But primarily, I[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]want to get publicity in order to draw attention to my proposal for immediate[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]social transformation. To do this I plan to end my own life. The attention of[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]the media is only caught by acts of violence. My moral principles prevent me[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]from doing harm to anyone else or their property, so I must perform this act of[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]violence against myself. Around twelve years ago, I don't remember the exact[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]year, a woman from Boston set herself on fire in Independence Square. For the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]next five days the Philadelphia Inquirer was filled with reports of[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]investigations into who this woman was and speculation as to why she did this[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]act. Since I have been in Philadelphia for fiften years, all the while making[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]myself very visible demostrating my position opinions, dancing and waving my[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]flags on the streets of this city, I believe I should create at least as much[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]as a sensation in the press. If the news media buries this story it will be[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]proof of the extreme prejudice of the media. I want this statement and my[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]other writings to be printed in the newspapers of this city. I want the people[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]of this city who have been seeing me around for so long to finally hear what[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I've been saying. I want my ideas to be publically discussed. If people[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]talked about my ideas, they would realize that transformation of our society is[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]possible, and they would feel better.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] I first planned to take this action a year ago. I wrote up final[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]statements, xeroxed them, and then I backed down. A year ago, economic[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]collapse seemed to be the most imminent danger threatening us. Today the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]likelihood of the impending war with Iraq rapidly escalating into a nuclear[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]holocaust eclipses the likelihood of economic collapse as being by far the more[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]serious and scary crisis. I am propmted to take this action by the dire[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]urgency of the world's environmental crisis, and the enormous unnecessary[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]suffering and repression being endured by all the world's people because of the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]oppressive geopolitical system. Of all the world's people, only the American[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]people have the power to change this global system of abuse, and therefore, it[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]is their responsibility to do so. I hope my action will not be viewed as[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]tragic, but rather, in the light in which it is intended. I am performing this[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]ritual sacrifice in hopes that it will increase the efficacy of my prayers to[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]all the people to have faith in the ideals, choose the path of peace and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]transform this nation and world.[/FONT]


    [FONT=&quot] I also want to make a statement about life and death. Death is[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]natural and inevitable. Death is good, because it allows life to make a fresh[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]start. The spirit is everlasting and always returns to life through rebirth.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I am not certain exactly how this happens, but I believe that the spirit[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]recycles itself somehow. It's true that we are each special individuals whose[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]lives are precious, but we are also part of a great spirit body, the universal[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]collective spirit. By dying, we dissolve our individual ego personality and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]rejoin the spiritual totality, before returning to alife in a new body. It's a[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]completely wonderful process, and not sad at all, except perhaps for the people[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]we leave behind, who may miss us. But there are so many beautiful people in[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]the world, that they should not miss the departed for too long. There are[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]always plenty of people around to love.[/FONT]

     
  9. soaringeagle

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    [FONT=&quot] This society places too much emphasis on the unconditional sacredness[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]of life. Anti-abortionists believe that it is more important to save life than[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]to guarantee the quality of the life they save. This belief in survival as the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]highest priority contributes to the deterioration of the quality of life for[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]everybody. When people do not practice birth control and all the babies are[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]saved, then we overpopulate. We kill wild animal species, strip the earth of[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]its forests and wilderness, and the planet becomes ecologically imbalanced and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]punishes us with environmental disasters. When there are more people than we[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]can care for, the quality of life diminishes for everyone. A life is worth[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]saving only if it is worth living. It could be argued that to live with[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]physical handicaps and adversity may be good for spiritual growth. But to live[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]in moral degradation is not good in any way. Because our society is so[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]corrupt, unfair, environmentally destructive, and in a state of deterioration,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]rather than improvement, we are all living in a state of moral degradation.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Our society is like a cancer on the planet. The goal is for everybody to[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]improve, not to commit mass suicide.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] For eighteen years I have been trying to urge people to throw off the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]corruption and go for the good, but I don't see my efforts as being successful[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]in any way, except that it's given me something to do. I do not want to live[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]off of this evil society any longer. My life is dependent on this society, and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]so I want to end my life. I demand that life must meet a standard of true[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]morality or else it is not worth living. In Orwellian fashion, this society[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]equates repression with morality. But in truth, repression of people who are[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]only trying to enjoy themselves and not hurting others is utterly immoral.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] The real struggle is not between races, or classes. It is not people[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]versus the elite. The real struggle is between good and evil; between[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]intelligent behavior and blind obedient conformity. Good is what promotes[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]health and happiness. Evil is what causes deterioration and disease. If we[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]choose good, it will be a triumph for everybody. Every person from the[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]poorest to the richest, from the humblest to the most powerful, will gain.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Everybody will discover real joy and peace of mind. The benefits will be so[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]absolute that I cannot imagine any other outcome.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] We are entering an age that will be as different from what came before[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]as day is to night, or as summer is to winter. Throughout this passing age,[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]humanity has had to work very hard at being constantly on the defensive, and[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]prepared for war. Now as we dissolve the enmity, we can all relax and enjoy[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]life. [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] As a plan my action, I think of all the things that might hinder it.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]What if the post office fails to deliver my press statements? What if someone[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]stops me from carrying out my intentions? I don't know if I will succeed, but[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I will drop this statement in the mail and proceed, trusting in fate to bring[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]about whatever is meant to happen.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot] Call me a flaming radical burning for attention, but my real intention[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]is to spark a discussion of how we can peacefully transform our world.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]America, I offer myself to you as an alarm against Armageddon and a torch for[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]liberty.[/FONT]



     
  10. U.S. Army Retired

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    Sounds like the lady had severe philosophical issues after reading that about our government. She was on a crusade for the wrong reasons. The American status quo is strong as ever and shouldnt change as conservative faith and family values is true Ameicana and holds this nation together at its core value sytem. In the other hand, my thoughts are that if anybody that sets fire to themselves is not thinking in the right mind and needs mental medical attention, which is something she was seeking through her writings and actions but that she didnt get. She meant well probably, but is in a better place now and her pain is gone. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Sorry for your loss.
     
  11. deleted

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    Sorry you had such a Emotional attatchment to this person. While I feel that taking out your frustration on your fellow forum members isnt really called for though...
    I can sympathize with you and Maybe others can too, But SE you supplied a link and though you got not so many replys, imagine the new members you may have offended that just came to see and read your replys...
    Yet they had sympathy but felt in a way speachless to reply with caring words that may have already been said...
    Maybe you should have asked visitors to sign after viewing..
    And another thing Sex is the internet... and this Site offers love and sex..
    Put that in a search engine and you might get Hip Forum..
    How many idle threads have you bumped that were related to the hippie culture? http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=302006
    Coming from Guru you? this is a OXYMORON....:D
     
  12. Alfi

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    A close friend ?? And you let kill herself..... some friend you were. :(

    Ultimate sacrifice - translation ... she killed herself and she didn't do it for anyone but her own delusions.

    And if she was a believer in the Christian religion she is now in hell. Still burning.
    Suicide is one of them sin things.
     
  13. soaringeagle

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    wtf?
    yea thats of christianity wasnt the same fucking pack of lies thats destroying this whole country


    she was many many peoples freinds what she chose to do noone could have stopped i didnt even find out till weeks later, and she did it foir all of you,m to bring about the changes in the world this world desperately nreeds

    retired army asshole this country, this world is nearring its end because of conservative values plunging us into world war 3 mccaine prommicing the war will go on forever, armeghedon or bust is the moto itf the conservatives you play lip service to
    she gave her life to prevent armeghedon to chgange society before its too late
    you call her delusional while you preach how wonderful it is to destroy the culture and stability of other coiuntries murder thousands and claim yourself a hero?
    she was the true hero, incapable of harm9ing another her only act of violence in her entire life was directed at herself in an attempot to end all violence against others

    have somre fucking respoect for a true hero
    what have you changesd but to help further the marchg towards destruction?



    i do applogize for my rant..to an extent, but still it sickens me the complete lack of care or sympathy
    she was a briliant inspiration with a vission and a sytem that would completely revolutionalize the world
    bringing about a utopian society without the evils of today..
    and yet you dare to mock her?

    the solutions are so simple and would even be fun..yet your so easilyu distracted by a breast or a vidio game or a story about a majic man who escaped a grave (hmm didnt houdini do that)
    (yea u think he diked for everyoner too just like she did so if you can mock my freind i can mock your dude who is most likely imaginary anyway)
    your so easily distracted from all the real issues out there, i mean seroiusly army dudes ready to rally to war cause they said ohh the scary guys got a big bomb (forgetting the millions of megatons of earth shattering destructive power in his own back yard instr4ead worrying about a myth,...a story..an outright lie..but hey it distracted him from reality and manipulated him into becomming a government sanctioned murderer incapable of independent thought
    alfi
    isnt murder a sin?
    wouldnt assisting in muder be a sin as well?
    supporting the murder of thousands even millions?
    christianity itself has resulted in billions of deaths..genocoide of entire cultures
    yet you sin by supporting the murderouse christian religion
    hypocrites every one of em
    (and isnt there somethimng in there about judge not? havent you just placed a hero for the people, a true saint who gave her life for the sake of peace, you placed her in hell? hmmm wouldnt that be a sin to judge her?


    to all the people with actual minds open hearts and seeking truth
    again sorry for my anger and frustration..
    i know you can see the reality clearly

    we need change and we need it now
    the christian conservatives believe armeghedon is theyre salvation
    what if theyre wrong? what if armeghedon simply is..the end
    nothing to come back to..game over
    are you goping to let them destroy it all just to stroke theyre massive egos?
     
  14. jahmerimaka

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    Soaring eagle, i have empathy for you. I read the article and she sounds like an amazing person, fighting for a great cause. There is no point in arguing with these conservative nationalist fucks. These are the ones she was trying to change, and they're minds are too bleached and washed to realize there is a purpose. There is no use in fighting with these fools, there is no use in trying to convert them the way they try.

    Looks like we must put out the truth the same way they put out the lies. Target the children. (Kind of joking on that one.) But it just seems that these ones are too stubborn and caught up in their wonderful acts of helping humanity to take the criticism. A revolution will come soon, it is inevitable considering the direction we are heading. People will soon enough come to their senses, and the only way it seems it may happen is the collapse of our economy. Too bad there isn't something more important than money and power on their minds.

    I also don't understand why people seem to label others as mentally ill when they have a different perspective or mindset. That is another problem with this society. New medications and diagnosis' come out for every little thing that is not in the norm.

    Anyway... R.I.P. We must carry on her words.
     

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