So.. I don't know where else to put this because I need advice from both sides. I don't know I am really, really irritated and frustrated. I have this friend, who I love a lot, we've been friends since... ah hell, junior high. She used to be this sweet preppy happy girl, and now she lives in a world of such darkness, and things, that.. I can't even put here. Because it's disturbing, and because I refuse to exploit her if she ever finds this on the internet. Which I pray she won't. Anyway, I used to be a witch. I was a green witch. My friend isn't a witch I don't think she's.. something else, but it's a very strange, strange life and social life I used to be have. I gave up the witchcraft because I had a lot of negative energy around me and I couldn't take it. Or in her point of view "refused to handle it" i believe that's how she feels. I'm sorry but witchcraft is so.. stupid to me these days.. According to witches, spells are just prayers with props, while you're worshipping something bad anyway, and all it causes is a bunch of really crazy crap to start happening in your house. So when I turned to Christian Mysticism and gave up my book of shadows, and focused on a brighter light, she totally turned on me. And she refuses to actually read what my religion is about and when I try to talk to her about it she says "well in my point of view a christian mystic is someone who is actually a green witch trying to bend the rules and its not gonna work cause she's still a witch". Yes, I do herbal healing, but so do a lot of people. And yes, I do yoga, who cares. Christian Mysticism does have herbal healing, yoga, and aromatherapy and whatever, why do I have to surrender my life and my beliefs to a cloak and a broomstick!? I'm tired of having to listen to the things where every damn thing in life has to be a conspiracy, having to be told who I am, and having to hear about stupid things like.... the government and the supernatural and . I'm not going to go into that, but I don't know what to tell my friend because... if I do something wrong, well, I was a witch.. witches and gangmembers that's all I'm going to say.
I like to compare spirituality with a mountain that is equidistantly proportioned on all sides. A person just starting out as a Mahayana Buddhist may begin climbing the mountain on its south side, while a Toltec Shaman may begin on its north side. If they were to compare notes at these initial stages of their paths, they would have little in common -- the two people ascending the opposite sides of the mountain are separated by a great distance. As one approaches the summit, however, one begins to realize that all authentic spiritual paths share a common goal -- the person on the south side could yell something out and be heard by the person on the north side. Consequently, it becomes much easier to identify the common elements of paths that when examined superfically can seem irreconcilable. Claiming "ownership" of a path, like your friend is doing with Witchcraft, is simply an egoic identification with spirituality -- a sort of "pseudo-spirituality". She is using a system intended to allow an individual to merge with universal consiousness as a means of reinforcing her own separative consciousness. People who do this often have a need to "disprove" or ridicule approaches to spirituality that don't conform to their narrow-minded conceptions of it. If you argue with her, attempting to convince her that your path is authentic, you're not only reinforcing her dysfunctional relationship with her path, you're also succumbing to the same egoic tendency that she has -- you're using your path as a way to bolster your ego, in the process rendering it powerless to allow you to connect with Spirit (or God or Love or Tao or your Higher Nature, whichever word you prefer ). When you become secure enough in the authenticity of your path, not only will you not be bothered by people like your friend who attempt to invalidate your approach to spirituality, it's very likely that your friend will stop making the attempts in the first place. Higher consciousness has a way of diffusing conflict just by making a connection with it. Travis
I can't give you advice per say, but it seems to me that your friend feels betrayed somehow. If she views Christianity (any Christianity) as a polar opposite to whatever she is doing, then you as a Christian are against her. But as a Christian Mystic doing these "new age" (I add the quotation marks because they aren't really new age) as just keeping the same beliefs while just changing your label. I think she might see you as a traitor or something. I don't know, ignore me.
If she doesn't want to hear about your beliefs, I guess you shouldn't talk to her about them. But it makes me wonder if you're really friends, if you can't talk about your interests openly without hostility. Sounds like she's being overly dramatic about it to me, but people do take these things very seriously. At such a cost, because friendship is greater than any religion.
I don't really get angry about it I just try to explain it to her, but she thinks she knows EVERYTHING. And I mean EVERYTHING. But truthfully, witchcraft in my opinion is not something to get into I mean you deal with the supernatural enough in Christianity, but witchcraft you never really know what you're inviting in.
What are you talking about FedUp, she's meddling in MY life. I left the cult, usually if a witch leaves, or the other witches feels betrayed they kill her. That's why she's so pissed. Your either dead, or they'll try to curse you. Maybe that isn't always the case, but sometimes it is. I don't try to bring it up, but she does. "What's the spell for......" "When are you going to face the fact you're a witch.." "You're a witch and you're always going to be." I think in her mind she thinks I was born a witch, therefore I always will be. But the truth is I wasn't born a witch. I never once judged her personally for being a witch. And.. the other stuff.. she is. I might not agree with it, but I don't bitch at her for it. I don't even talk to her about it but that's all her life is now. I don't care what she does as long as she quits judging me.
sounds to me that you got scared of the bad ole' witches and the idea of possessing power. Your friend isn't scared, she's empowered.
Please don't tell me you think that investing one's energies in curses and "black magick" qualifies as empowerment. It is nothing more than the energetic equivalent of the vindictive and malicious behavior exhibited on elementary school playgrounds. And perhaps more importantly, "dark energies" like curses can only be effectively applied to energies of a similar vibratory rate. They are rendered completely powerless by the presence of Spirit. Travis
I heard pole-dancing after too many Bacardi Breezers is empowering. I gave up on understanding anything that day.
Her friend sounds like an ass. Lets say hypothetically that at one point you were a Christian (gasp). And then fell away (double gasp). How would you like it if people you used to hang out with kept on asking you for prayers to say during services, "when are you going to face the fact that you are a Christian", etc etc. Your "friends" would be asses...
I don't wanna be overly rude but witchcraft is absolute bullshit. If you really wanna be this girls friend for some reason then compromise and put religious issues and other controversial topics aside for the good of your friendship. Personally, i would stay the hell away from her. She's not gonna put a spell on you, they don't exist..
FinnishButterfly, One of the main things in life we should do is decide who we want to be. Then decide what beliefs help us to be that person. Beliefs truly are the driving force in ones life that can take you where you want to go. Some never do decide who they want to be and are tossed about by every wind of teaching. Others decide first what they want to believe and hang on to those beliefs even if those beliefs make them into people they hate and take them into lives that are unhappy. But a person who first decides who they want to be and the life they want to live are free to pick and choose the beliefs that will bring them to those goals.
That's kind of a nice way to look at it. I always think that if one's beliefs are formalised, one can be told what to do. A religion can demand that someone acts in one way in one situation purely because they have acted that way in a previous situation. A good person changes their beliefs when they need to be changed; a bad person uses their beliefs as excuses to do bad.
thank you, kinda. listen, finnish, every exploration is an individual journey. and sometimes on those journeys, your fellow travellers are going to decide they wanna go one way, and you wanna go another. some people get shittier about you going one way because they desperately need to be buttressed by someone familiar. they're afraid to go their way and do their thing, and they want everyone to go with them. like a gaggle of girls going to the bathroom. but at this point, you may have to say goodbye to some people who have officially decided to journey in a completely opposite direction as yourself. maybe someday those paths will cross again and you can look back at this as just a shadowy spot in the forest at the end of a long, trying, and CRANKY day. don't worry about the haters, we all get our turn in the bucket. only the strong ones get over it and move on.
