Hi, I have a problem. I will first explain a little about my marijuana experience that leads up to it. I first smoked marijuana when I was about 17 or 18 years old. It was just regular marijuana, and the first time I smoked it, it was heavy (as most first times are I guess). Well the next day and pretty much the following 2 weeks, it was really trippy, I would just "space out" while at school and time seemed to fly by. It was OK though because after about a month, the after effects seemed to decrease and eventually I got to a point where my stoned consciousness and the time after was OK. After that, I haven't smoked any for about a year. Six months ago though, I smoked some White Widow and this is the start of my problem. I smoked a small bit and it was OK, but the next day I smoked about 3 times a normal amount and ever since then, my consciousness is really wierd, even 6 months later. It's as if I'm still in a milder version of the actual high, constantly, as if it's now my permanent consciousness (I feel like I'm constantly tipsy, not quite drunk but not perfectly clear) and it's really scaring me because it gets in the way of my work. I really hope someone can help me, I don't know what to do, time doesn't seem to help because the effects haven't dissipated in 6 months so I don't see how it could help in another 6 months. I asked a doctor about it but she wasn't very helpful because she thinks it's something to do with my blood, but I know it's something to do with my brain (marijuana is a psychoactive drug when I smoked it it must have done something). I decided to ask a marijuana forum because people here would know a lot about weed and I hope someone can help me.
the effects would never last that long no matter how much u smoked. Its all in ur head. ur paranoid. i can tell by the way u write. dont worry just ignore it and it will go away. its kinda like a placebo effect.
Thank you very much for replying "ishade32", I really do hope you're right, that it is a placebo effect. I also agree that the effects wouldn't last long, but I was thinking more along that smoking that weed could have re-wired my brain? Because I don't feel the same I did before. I will try to ignore it but it's hard to ignore because what my consciousness now is definitely different from before.
Sorry but marihuana can leave negative effects. Hey man same happened to me but i have weird feeling in my chest also (i dont feel it) no emotions and all. Its the 8th day and i still have it.Also marihuana can cause anxiety for some people (for those that smoked a lot.) Maybe you still have too much THC in your body and thats the reason but 6 months is very long man. I also feel the same as you... It's like you are little bit stoned but almost clear you like still feel it. I have the same thing not sure what it is man and its not some placebo effect it probably activated some part of brain or somethin. Also for people who say marihuana isnt dangerous.. it is dangerous because its a very strong psychoactive drug if you use it daily.
Kitr88, I'm glad someone else shares my experience (well I'm not really glad) but I agree, it's as if smoking that weed screwed something up in my brain. It's like my consciousness now is a mild replica of the original high, and it doesn't go away, its stuck. I was even thinking of possibly smoking weed again to reset it, and have a new consciousness (does that make sense?). Anyways, I don't like the way I am now.
That "spacey" feeling is probably depersonalization/derealization. It's a state that people enter during times of extreme stress or relaxation. Like if your driving down a road you've driven down for years and years, at the end you realize... "what the fuck? how did I get here? I don't really remember driving.." It's normal to just "check out" like that sometimes. And depersonalization feels very similar to being stoned because many people "check out" when they get stoned. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but depersonalization feels like you are just going through the motions, like everything seems a little off in the world, like you are watching a movie of yourself living your life, some people say the world appears 2D, like a movie set . You could feel dizzy, or off balance, you could be more tired than usually or just feel really out of it or even a feeling similar to being high. Rest assured that you are not high, marijuanas effects do not last that long but they can trigger, not cause, lingering psychological effects or uproot existing ones. I went through my first period of depersonalization in high school after getting stoned to the point that I was really uncomfortable. The next morning I woke up and felt really out of it and depersonalized and I spent probably 3 months waking up every morning hoping to be "normal" again. My depersonalization stems from a lot of fucked up things that happened in childhood so during those times, I taught my body and mind to just check out to protect myself, so when I got too stoned, I just simply checked out but got stuck like that for a while not knowing what was really going on. There are lots of things you can do to help how you are feeling, I personally wouldn't recommend smoking more weed, but yeah, if any of that sounds like how you are feeling, shoot me a PM or something.
Stella Drives, that's very interesting and I think that's exactly what I have; depersanalization. I noticed that after smoking that, I became extremely anti-religious; agnostic...very empty and robotic...like I'm not even in control. Also...I can't shoot you an private message because it says I have insufficient privilages.
Yeah, because you are definitely not stilled stoned. Empty and robotic are definitely words to define it. Sometimes I feel that literally my soul or my state of consiousness has shifted in my body to a new location that is much more distant and untouchable. Depersonalization is psychological and really closely linked to anxiety when it persists for more than a couple of days. Even though it is "all in your head", it's not something that you can just snap out of it. It takes time and effort. And it can be really scary thinking that you fucked yourself up and you can't get back to normal, but you WILL get back to normal. Again, it takes time.
Wow...thank you very much for your comments, they are really helpful. Also, you said that depersonalization is linked to anxiety; I have anxiety (and I still suffer it) and OCD...but I know for certain that this feeling of mine started right after I smoked that stuff.
I have anxiety, and OCD as well with some panic disorder sprinkled on top, haha. Anxiety is usually the thing that makes depersonalization persist rather than just last a day or so. For me, when I was depersonalized, I would wake up every single morning and beat myself up when I didn't feel normal. And then the whole day, all I would think was "god, this is so weird. I wish I could be myself again, I feel like I am DEAD right now, AM I DEAD RIGHT NOW? Oh my god, this is horrible, I wouldn't wish this feeling on anyone, why am I like this?! My friends don't een seem real, my mother seems like she's just an actress, god I wish it would stop" And my anxiety would just intensify and prolong the depersonalization. But after a while, I just started going with the flow and changed my thinking. If you just "go with it", it's usually not so overwhelming. Try focusing on the moment rather than if you are going to feel better tomorrow or a week from now or ever. And eventually, one day you'll realize, "hey! I feel a bit more like myself right now!"
marijuana fucked me up so bad too man. I can't really offer you words of advice, because I dont even have my own shit figured out, but I just want to let you know that you aren't the only person that it happens to.
OK...I will try to "go with the flow". I remember once at the airport (I was sober) and I was under extreme anxiety for hours (maybe 6)...and suddenly, it's like I was bathed in an endorphin release and I just felt completely relaxed and I didn't give a worry about the thing which I was worried about. But that only lasted 20-30 minutes. I think that happened because my body was overloaded with worry, that it did a sort of defense mechanism to sedate me for awhile. Well this isn't quite like that...I think it's a totally different thing. I seem fine outside (I think) but I spend most of my time in my house, in my room and navigating (walking and moving my head) inside it seems like not blurry...just the movement is wierd, sort of sluggish...if anyone's been tipsy before (not drunk but just before drunk) that is very much what I feel like. By the way, I also don't want what I'm posting to sound anti-marijuana or anything...it's great and I love it during the 3-6 hour experience...it's just that I still feel it after (6 months) and when I'm doing anything while high, fine, it's just now I have to do things like study and work and it's not very helpful having this feeling.
Well, yeah. With what you were saying about endorphins, a good thing to remember is all of your emotions and feelings of anxiety are merely chemical reactions. We are what we think, and if you just go with the flow and try to think positively, you will feel better because even smiling floods your body with good feeling chemicals. And anxiety is just the release of adrenaline and cortisol into your blood, making your heart beat out of your chest and making you sweat and feel uncomfortable. If we can change the way we think, we can most definitely change the way we feel. It WILL get better though, just give it some time. And if you have underlying anxiety, dealing with that through cognitive behavioral therapy or just learning some CBT techniques can definitely help relieve the depersonalization.
good advice! perhaps the things you´re feeling are just the beginning of losing your ego. well, not "losing," just understanding. when you feel "not right," who is this YOU and what is NORMAL to be feeling? seriously, think about it. try to pinpoint exactly who YOU are. hard to do since there is no specific YOU. cant be your mind because without your body, your mind couldnt do anything. so when you´re feeling these after-effects, think about how they´re affecting YOU. perceptions are in constant change. if you get lost in it all, just focus on your breath. let everything else disappear and focus on the in and out breaths. there´s no permanent you for these things to be affecting. when dealing with psychoactive drugs, remember that they can be benign, yet powerful. the first time I ate mushrooms, i remember telling a friend, "now i can SEE." ever since then I "see" in this way. it´s not at all like an ever-lasting trip, but it´s more like you cant un-learn what you just went through. trying to understand consciousness and perception is a crazy game. or it´s really simple. kinda both at the same time. once you better understand you´re situation, building up a tolerance might help. smoking a bit more will help to "normalize" the whole experience. over time, it´ll just be a regular thing you do. perhaps change how/when/why you smoke. your perceptions of smoking will always change. find what you´re comfortable with
I don't feel better when I take a shower. Also about how you said you feel numb in the chest, I don't feel numb, but I feel like my whole body has lessened perception, like before, it would feel more sensitive on the skin, now it feels more blunt...yeah...
Kitr88: Cannabis is known to increase your heart rate while you’re high. You might have strained your heart. My dad has a defective heart valve and he really has to watch out about things that raise his heart rate so he hasn't done any substances for that reason. I think both you and Diablo have different problems, I think yours might be more a physical problem while Diablo's is more a spiritual or mental. Either way I wish the best of luck to both of you in solving your problems.
Well yea but i also have no emotions and also dont feel so much as i did similar like diablo described :|