Measuring 2ct2 without a scale?

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by Adamist, May 7, 2008.

  1. Adamist

    Adamist Member

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    SWIM has 500mg of 2ct2 but no scale...
    Should he wait until he can afford one of the nice ones off the internet
    Or is there another way?

    Would it be a really bad idea for him to eyeball a tiny bit of it?
     
  2. Happy Hardcore

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    Get a layer of thin glass, and a sheet of graph paper. Make a level bump equal to the area of a square on the graph paper.
     
  3. Adamist

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    And how many mg is that approximately?
     
  4. NeuroDr

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    isnt it water soluble? can u weigh out .1 g? if not im sure u kno a weed dealer that could....then put .1 g in solution and know the concentration...then its accurate
     
  5. Happy Hardcore

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    Depending on how tall that bump is it may not be higher than 10 milligrams.
     
  6. Toejam

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    Eyeballing is dangerous, I wouldn't recommend it when first trying a substance.

    However, I can't pretend to be an angel in that regard, as the first psychedelic trip I ever had was with an eyeballed dose of 2C-E. I had the same problem as you, no scale and not a whole lot of patience ;)

    It's really hit and miss. If you're lucky, you'll get it just about right and have a good experience. Trouble is, the potency of compounds like these grows exponentially. A little makes a big difference.

    I would say avoid it if you can. If you absolutely MUST, you can try the methods above or you can try the halving method. You basically just keep halving a known quantity - so you would start with 500mg, divide it into 2 piles, thats 250mg, divide it again and thats 125, etc etc.

    It's a rather inaccurate method. But its better than nothing.

    Be careful ;)
     
  7. Toejam

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    Also, keep in mind phenethylamines are clumpy and fluffy (most of them are anyway)

    Keep an eye out for the larger fluffier chunks, as they can greatly increase the dosage and cause unexpected reactions.
     
  8. vcdman

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    seriously, if you can afford to buy drugs, you can find a way to be wise a and buy a scale... good luck
     
  9. Gdeadhead420

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    Start off doing a miniscule ammount and work your way up from there.
     
  10. Adamist

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    Update- last night I had an extremely pleasant experience... I started off dropping a TINY amount into my bottle of water... I'd guess not more than 5mg.. small I know but this was my first time with 2ct2 and I figured less is better until I get a feel for it. Anyways, I waited approximately an hour to see if I was going to feel any effects from such a small dose. I started feeling a little queasy and rushes of warmth, and waited another 30 minutes before I realized how small of a dose I just took.. so I decided to try insuffulating a tiny bump to see if it would catalyze the experience. I tried such a tiny amount that the burn everyone complains of barely phased me... but to be on the safe side I waited about 20 minutes before doing another... and another. :)

    Basically I had one of the most gentle, interesting trips in recent memory. Part of it could be due to the fact that I meditated extensively before-hand and the light dosage. I experienced none of the physical discomfort that everyone complains of with this substance. In my experience, LSD has a much heavier body-load in that regards. The way I dosed was perfect too... a small oral dose followed with small, separated bumps... the key being the separation between doses, giving me time to gauge the experience and how much more I wanted before I got to where I needed to be.

    The other crazy thing I discovered with this drug is that I had NO problem falling asleep at the end of my trip, which is REALLY unusual for me. I'm a very restless person by nature, and usually while on ANY substance I'm the last one to fall asleep, oftentimes staying up for hours or even days depending on what I'm on... not so with 2ct2. I didn't even remember falling asleep but I passed out while watching a documentary on string theory (the Elegant Universe, highly recommended trip material). I woke up this morning feeling kind of worn out but nothing extreme like I've had with certain Ecstasy pills.

    So all in all I'd rate this substance very highly up there, close to LSD in it's potential to open you up to new ways of thinking. Maybe it was the light dose, but I feel this kind of drug is more accurately described as a "sensory enhancor" or a "smart drug" rather than a psychedelic. The main effect was pleasantly pyschological.. a thinking man's substance. I didn't get much visuals but then again, most likely due to the light dose. I'm eager to experiment further in the future... but don't worry, AFOAF said he's got a good mg scale for me to use. (I just have to drive an hour to get to it). So no more "wingin it"... [​IMG]
     
  11. NeuroDr

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    glad to hear it was good...keep experimenting n reporting!
     
  12. kudosdc

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    It sounds like your target dosage is in the low mg range, so the question is: How much money do you want to spend on your scale? It may be hard to find a truly reliable scale for such small amounts unless you can part with $800+.

    If you are worried about the error introduced by subdividing a larger, known mass, you should be damn sure your scale can do a better job, and reliably! Even with a great hi-res scale, how well can you control your environment to consistantly parcel out each dose, one-at-a-time.?
     

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