Help me with Rivea corymobosa, Ololiuqui seed

Hi,

I am new to psychedelics and I just received my order of Ololiuqui seeds. Now, i have absolutelu no clue how they should be consumed. All i see is small seeds, you know. I am no expert of this area. A simple explanation would be appreciated, also very detailed so everything goes well.

I got quite a bit of these seeds. How should they be preserved? Which temperature approximately and how long they remain viable and potent their fullest? I know its an english forum but if there are finnish people I would love answers in finnish as my english is rather poor.

Thanks for your help.

 

I'm not really sure with the amounts of alkaloids in that particualr type of seed and ive read mixed reports that say its either weaker or stronger than woodrose, so i really don't know. There are plenty of extraction methods for woodrose or morning glories that you could use on your seeds. I guess you'll just have to work out a proper dose through trial and error. Erowid has no experience reports whatsoever on the subject so if you make something work, you should write an entry there. How many seeds did you get?

 

oh yeah, for your question. Just put them somewhere airtight, not too warm, not too cold. Keep them out of the sun.

 

check out erowid.org. They have a lot of information. My understanding that it's somewhere between HBWR and regular MG (Heavenly Blues, etc) in potency.

 

supposedly the indians who came up with the name Ololiuqui say it only takes a little bit of these seeds, like a hbwr dosage to work, but ive heard otherwise too. if i was you, id take advantage of opportunnity and be the first to really get the information on the web. start of with like 10 or something and work up from there, if you have enough that is, if not just be a savage and eat them all, see what happens, and if your still mentally sound afterword, tell us what happened.

 

Thanks for the replies

As far as i understand extracting the LSA can be done very carefully. At the moment my intentions are not to create pure LSA but rather consume the seeds for my own fun. Whatkind of way would you suggest for this? Crushing them maybe and mixing with water(how long?), or perhaps simply chewing them. Anybody have a clue what would be the best way to deal with these seeds.

I appreciate all answers

 

Anybody?

 

if you want to do an extraction just crush or grind in a coffee grinder, let them sit in water for at least 4 hours.. then filter through paper towels .. coffee filters, shirts.. whatever, then drink the water

OR

you can take the easy way out and just eat the seeds straight up

 

dont use water, use straight up lemon juice. the acids pull more out and you get more out of it.

 

oh and when it comes to nausea, the lemon juice and then filter method is the easy way.

 

damn i post too quick, cause i keep remembering more and more. You only need to soak about 30 minutes. Check out any posts by ancient powers. He pretty much has the LSA method down. It works for me.

 

Alright, so this far i got.

I crush the seeds. Grind them into fine powder and mix with (Amount?) of water (Warm, cold?) Wait. At least 4 hours?. Or 30 minutes?..Then filter through coffee filter ( Why is this done? ) Can i not just drink the water as it is?. Can you answer to these questions.

 

So, is this the correct way?

1. Grind the seeds.
2. Mix it with glass of lemon juice
3. Let it be there 30 minutes(correct me with the timing)
4.Filter through coffee filter (Why is this done?)
5. Drink the filtered stuff.

Correct? Does this apply to baby woodrose too?

 

Si, to everything. cold lemon juice. timing's correct. you filter cause the seed pulp has the toxins and fucks with your stomach and cramps your legs. and yes, woodrose too.

 

you could soak longer if you want, i just know it works with 30 min

 

One thing more, about the lemon juice. Honestly..i've never heard of lemon juice. It's bitter as hell and tastes bad. Do i squeeze it outmyself from a lemon or is it actually sold as "lemon juice?"

 

Why in the hell would you use citric acid to extract LSA,which is sensitive and will break down in acid, to extract it from seeds? Use cold water. I don't see what advantage the citric acid has over the water anyway. It does taste better though. I have done this. Though it seems dumb when you think about it. Also, it's 3x more of a pain in the ass to use lemon juice. The seeds will continue to absorb it until you've used like an entire bottle. Water is free.

 

I don't have a problem trying both methods. Just how long do you suggest keeping them in the liquid? 30 minutes with water as well?

How much water? You said the The seeds will continue to absorb it until you've used like an entire bottle. Does this mean the amount of water/juice used is not default but has to be increased all the time. Sounds dumb(I do) I just can't see where the water would/juice would disappear.

 

No I'm, talking about a bottle of lemon juice. When people talk of that extraction they talk of only using lemon juice. The damn seed powder is EXTREMELY absorbent and takes a good amount of liquid until it finally can't hold any more. Not to mention it's like filtering mud and very difficult. Maybe a metal, reuseable coffee filter would do.

 

Heya,

I grinded and soaked about 20-25 oloqu seeds in water and sealed it in a dark place. I plan to wait for around 9-10 hours before drinking it. Do you suggest filtering or just drinking it raw? Whats the difference?
Please let me know before i drink it. I'll let you know afterwards how was it.