Is there anything that Christianity says you can't do that you'd actually want to do?

Just curious, really.

 

Yes, I would like to see the elimination, eradication of the christian church, similar to the need to eradicate the Republican Neo-Conservative clique.

It it is the repository of pedophiles, sexual perverts not to mention being one of the biggest scams invented by manking.

 

Having any sexual thoughts at all about any girl other than my nonexistent wife?

 

So that's one thing. Anything else?

 

his was a little ridiculous anyways. not sure I would count that.

 

I'm pretty sure the Bible's actually in favour of religious reform, Jesus' turning of the tables, etc., but hey, if wbld feels he can't overthrow the Christian church just because they say he'll go to Hell if he does, than that's a great injustice and we should respect his feelings.

 

lol if you say so.

on the flip side, if he were allowed to overthrow the church, it would be a great injustice to a far greater number of people that participate in and make church a part of their lives.

 

how do you figure its an injiustice when it just serves to set them free?

 

If that's what you really believe then why aren't you busy overthrowing it? Why is it okay for you to sit idly by while poor innocent Christians are slaves of their religion? Personally I don't think most people are any more enslaved by their religion than they are by their language, but if you disagree then by all means do something about it.

 

because I dont believe they are in bondage in the first place.

at any rate, it isn't like they are forced to go to church and maintain being a christian. they can stop attending and practicing any day of the week. if you take away the option to go though, that's when you have actually taken AWAY freedom.

 

How are you qualified to make that assertion? I have read a study which asked various people and their friends to assess their happiness. The study showed that, of all the variables measured, a strong religious conviction was the only factor to have had a significant effect on how happy the person thought they were, and how happy their friends thought they were.

Why do you believe that someone who thinks they are happy and who appears happy to their peers, apparently as a result of their strong religious conviction, is likely to be happier in the long run if you take that religion away from them?

 

I ask again: how are you qualified to make that assertion?

 

Let me explain:

I do not believe that your being an ordained minister qualifies you to assert that those who are freed from religion would be happier in the long run. So simply stating and restating that you are an ordained minister is not going to persuade me. I do not believe, as an ordained minister, that you can know how people would feel as a result of being robbed of their religion - rather than being allowed to give it up as and when they see fit - and as has been mentioned, it seems to be far more of an impingement to take away something than it does to allow people to relinquish it for themselves.

You are talking about removing the freedom to believe what you wish as a means of liberating people. You assert that they would be happier in the long run. Do you have personal experience of this? If so, what was it? I ask because I am curious as to how you can be so sure that everyone would benefit from being robbed of their right to their religion; your experience of being robbed of your religion would have to be quite exceptional for you to be able to assert that it ought to be applied to everyone, since most people are clearly not like you.

 

I fail to see, in this case, how your status as an ordained minister is actually pertinent.

How were you freed from the mindvirus of which you speak? Did someone free you? Or did you figure it out by yourself?

 

So you have no experience of being freed against your will, of being "cured" as you put it, so you cannot possibly claim any knowledge of whether someone who has been "cured", rather than allowed to relinquish their religion of their own accord, would thank you for it or being happier in the long run. It is illogical for you to claim that you know that they would be happier in the long run because you yourself have never experienced it.

 

Uhmm.... Who's actually in Hell?

Think again. LOL. :jester:




Heil the Nazi Pope!!!
LOL.

 

I always thought he looked like the dwarf from Twin Peaks myself.

I was curious about this because, coming from a family that is by and large Irish Catholic, I'm aware that Christianity, unlike the cult that some posters in this forum appear to envision Christianity as, permits degrees of observancy. Catholicism's confessional effectively allows you to do a hell of a lot of minor sinning as long as you confess your sins. If you don't consider what you've done to really be wrong, that seems like a pretty easy ride.

 

well, one of the main staples of christianity is forgiveness.

 

Right.

It is said, that upon his death, Hitler rose to heaven after having said, before he died, that he considers the murder of 6 million Jews wasn't really wrong. :jester:

 

And who is that said by, exactly?