this is insane...we're supposed to hate bush because of something his grandfather did? i hope you all hate the germans, the japs, the italians, and the swiss too.
I don't think that anyone said to hate Bush because his grandfather supported the Nazi's. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, however. It's a good indication of how his family does politics.
my statement stands..if the apple doesnt fall far from the tree..are the germans today nazis? Are the japanese alive today the same blood thirsty ones from the ww2 era?? To base someone on the actions of another is insane.
Well actually you can, being that Prescott rasied His son to be and follow the same politics and standards as he did, and George H.W. Bush passed it on to his son....The Bush Family is just like the mafia, and every family member is involved. Peace and Love, Dan
please tell me where you found out how prescott raised papa bush and then papa bush raised baby bush.
Do you need more information other than its his father, and Dubya's grandfather? Do you think they were raised by another family? or an aunt or something?
De-nile ain't just a river in Egypt, folks! Now come on, the Bush family raises their children to become nothing BUT politicians...How could father/son be that different politically? I mean, of course Bush is not a Nazi, that's absurd. It would be political suicide. Then there goes the political family. It isn't about about who supports nazi's, it's about playing political chess. These people, this family plays for power. And they are playing with the lives of people all over the globe.
so germans who were raised by nazi's and nazi supporters are still nazis? Judge someone for their own actions, not that of their grandfathers.
the same reason that reagan was far right and his son isnt? God you guys are really stretching to find things to criticize bush for. Come on, it isnt THAT hard. Should we blame the great great great(as many greats as it takes) grandchildren of slaver owners? Surely they raised their kids who then raised their kids(etc) with that same hate...surely they are horrible people today. does no one else see how silly this is? Criticize bush for WMDS, OBL, kyoto, ABM treaty, no child left behind..but the actions of his grandfather in ww2(who by no means was alone in his dirty dealings)? Pathetic.
Theres always Hyundai!!!!!! Nm, you covered that, guess We could walk places, fuck my shoes are made by 8 year olds in china.
The question you asked was this: My answer was this, Do you need more information other than its his father, and Dubya's grandfather? Do you think they were raised by another family? or an aunt or something? Why does that indicate that I meant this?: I was taught many lessons by my father and grandfather. Why is it silly to think that they had no influence on me? What the Nazi connection indicates is not the fact that Bush Jr. is a Nazi, but that his grandfather's ethics were low enough at the time to support the Nazi party and exploit unpaid workers to make more money. This "step on everyone to get to the top" is an ethic that could have easily been passed down to family memebers. This kind of power lust is easily transferred. If american people are fighting on the field and you as an american benefit from that by being secure in your homeland and yet try to raise your company's profit at the cost of betraying your fellow citizens and justify your action by claiming that any manager's duty requires raising profit margins, then people would call you a bastard. Because once again you see, what is right sometimes is not what should be done. People have priorities and that is defined by ethics (that thin and hardline drawn above).
because the actions of your grandfather do not make the person the same way! thats what you fail to understand.
That is not what I said, would you please try to understand? No, it does not make you the exact same person, but did not you learn a few life lessons from your grandmother and mother, I find it hard to belive that you were in no way influenced by your parents and grandparents teachings. Psychology tells us that while parents and grandparents dont entirely shape our psyche, they do have a good bit of bearing on our development of a moral code. Especially in a Nuclear family like the Bushes. You are taking this to a heavy extreme, AGAIN. No one is saying Bush Jr. is a Nazi, no one is saying he is exactly the same as his Uncle, what we are saying is that a certain type of maral code is evident in the Bush family history, and that it has some bearing on Bush Jr. moral code in some degree whether for good or for bad.
Everyone knows that the actions of your grandfather don't make you the same person. None of us are that stupid, so your point really has nothing to do with the conversation. I'm gonna quote duckandmiss and try to explain this to you again, and expand on it a bit... "What the Nazi connection indicates is not the fact that Bush Jr. is a Nazi, but that his grandfather's ethics were low enough at the time to support the Nazi party and exploit unpaid workers to make more money. This "step on everyone to get to the top" is an ethic that could have easily been passed down to family memebers. This kind of power lust is easily transferred" What he said can't get much more clear. The Bush family raises politicians. They are a family of poiticians. And you mean to say that you think their ethics and values, or lack therof, wouldn't influence their other family members? Wouldn't be included in everything else they learn from their parents? That's all that's trying to be pointed out here. And you can use Regan's son as an excuse all you want, but he is not who we are talking about here. There have been clear examples of the lack of ethics in this administration. The Halliburton contract, for example. I mean, you think all this controversy over the president is coming from nowhere?
once again, should we assume that the son or grandson of a racist is racist? Surely the teachings of the father figures would have SOME BEARING on the son, cause you know, kids cant think for themselves and everything they learn is from their grandfathers. You are making a judgment on something you have absolutely NO clue on. How do you know what his grandfather taught him? I can just picture prescott bush sitting little bush on his knee going "you know, i used to love those nazis, i traded with them, fucking over america, man, you should do that when you're older, fuck over america." He probably did that everytime he saw little bush.
Once again, you are trying to put the actions of the grandfather onto the son. You have no clue what prescott bush taught papa bush and what papa bush taught little bush. You offer no evidence but conspiracy theory. "well, maybe, you know, it could, like, yeah, maybe be true, really!" My grandfather was raised as a strict catholic, he raised my mother as a strict catholic, who then tried to raise me as a strict catholic. Well damn if i'm a strict catholic, i dont even qualify to be a catholic since i'm for gay marriage and pro choice. To insinuate that because bush's grandfather had bad dealings that little bush will have bad dealings is the hight of stupidity. You cannot make wide sweeping generalizations and apply something from nearly 70 years ago to someone today. Furthermore, you cannot take characteristics of one person and apply them to another and say "well a family of politicians will teach their son the same ethics." thats just unfounded. You can dismiss reagan and his son all you want, but the same applies. Your hate for bush is making you illogical. There really are plenty of reasons to hate bush, this isnt one of them.
I don't hate Bush because of his grandfather. You aren't even taking in the point of this post, only focusing on your one argument. My parents raised me baptist, and I am not a religious person at all, so I understand what you are saying. But I dont see how it applies at all to what I am saying. I suggest you read my post over again. You know, the one where I started off by saying "Everyone knows that the actions of your grandfather don't make you the same person." You can stop arguing yout moot point. The article was posted, and people responded in such becuase many of us see the same cycle of poor values and ethics in this family.