What if the blind take acid?

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Great question! We already know it helps the colorblind to see color so....

 

well if the thought is true that blind people's other senses open up more, my guess is that a blind person might even have an advantage tripping. if their two regular eyes aren't distracting them, their 3rd eye might more easily open up. I imagine a good trip for a blind person would be extremely rewarding

 

my guess is that they would still have closed eye visuals. I mean, they dream dont they?

 

Well, what does one dream about who has never saw?

 

ask?

I mean, the pineal gland controls all of that. Being blind doesn't affect that gland as far as I know.

 

We are already going off track..

The blind has never seen, anything, no shapes, colors, depths, to their knowledge, nothing like that exists...

So, if the blind dropped, what would their experience be like?

 

my guess is that they would still have closed eye visuals. I mean, they dream dont they?

 

So all you're saying is 'they see visuals, just like when they dream' ? You're not really bringing anything to the table neodude1212.

next.....

 

I think what he is trying to say is, that even though they are blind, their mind can still produce images in their head. So he is suggesting that they will still experience the closed eye visuals like swirling colors, or other random images that their mind or imagination produce.

 

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aren't you really big on the whole DMT/Pineal gland stuff? dont blind people still have functioning pineal glands?

 

If they'd been blind since birth, they wouldn't have visual dreams, they would have auditory ones. So I'm guessing it'd be the same, obviously if they'd only gone blind in later life then (so long as their visual cortex or whatever was working properly)they'd probably have visuals

 

Their eyes have never let in images of reality, the pineal gland has no recollection of images because the blind has never seen. Also, LSD isn't ONLY about 'visuals'.

What I am saying is would the experience be far greater without the disortion of visuals and 'reality'...

 

Thats a good question. Perhaps it would be greater because you wouldn't be as distracted by things like moving your hand across your field of vision, or spending a lot of time staring at things. I wonder how the experience of a bad trip would be effected, if at all.

And yes, we all know LSD isn't ONLY about the visuals, but they are a part of the experience, and in a thread with the topic of blind people using LSD you would be an idiot to not expect posts about visuals.

 

I expect posts about visuals, never did I say otherwise. But saying the blind will experience "visuals" and not explaining further is far too broad of a statement pertaining to LSD use.

The first part of your reply was respectable, thank you.

 

I suspect that 'closed-eye' type visuals are very possible for the blind. Although they have never experience sight, their brains can still produce images inside their head. Imagination still exists and the ability to visualize on some level exists. So, I close my eyes during a trip and all I can see are random shapes and patterns and swirls that appear and don't go away. These are not distortions of anything on the back of my eyelids, nor are they distortions of any image that I have seen before. They are not images on my eyeball, but images being created from somewhere else in my brain. I suspect its very possible for a blind person to experience them as well. Thats is further explanation of my though process behind my stance.

However, other than some introductory courses, I have no real experience in neuroscience, or neurochemistry. Nor have I studied the blind on any level whatsoever. So, unfortunately, I can't give you a solid, fact-based explanation.

Also, didn't mean to sound like an ass about lsd being only about visuals. I just see that way too often when someone talks about, or has questions about the visual aspect, they get jumped by 50 people who lecture on the spiritual experiences of lsd, and act like mentioning visuals is blasphemy. Not what you did, didn't mean to sound like an ass, and if I did, I appologize.

 

I'm sure the blind dream, so they would see something sure, although it might be quite different from what we would see. More auditory hallucinations perhaps?

 

one time on a very strong mushroom trip i felt as if i was blind, but i could still see some things, but all i could see is there energy. i felt if i were truely blind i would see and feel the presence of great energys because there were no visuals to distract me. kind of like the third eye sense be heightened. it reminded me of that movie Daredevil when he could see even tho he was blind because he say the energy of objects. so maybe a blind man would be able to see energys, or just a lot of closed eyed visuals, hed probably be closer to having a breakthrough trip into other worlds.

 

Dreams are memory based. A blind person would have dreams just as they live everyday life. They dream without sight but they still hear/smell/touch/taste.

 

One time I was in such a calm state after smoking a blunt that I could close my eyes and see globe like shapes forming one whole globe that seemed to catch the shape of things outside of my eye lids and I didn't care to open my eyes at all, I get the feeling that blind people have things the 'see' or know of that they can't explain to us, the same way we see things that explanations will not make clear to them. Wondering wont make you know, find out, blind your self, then drop, see what happens, no no, know what happens. Thats what I would do if I wanted to know badly enough. Hell you might see in your own unique way what a person of vision has seen and it still will never be the same thing to the two. You are your own world.