Drink of the Ancients

Discussion in 'Cacti Delecti' started by ancient powers, May 14, 2008.

  1. ancient powers

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    Work has slowed down around here at the cacti delecti. Either we've posted alot of good info or I have drove everyone away. Either way it doesnt really matter. This thread is dedicated to the way of the ancients. With my mescaline extraction tek completed I have tamed the beast within. My research led to the discovery of the actual power of this plant and techniques to harness it's power. So as I have been pondering the power. I have discovered in research that 1 foot on the average dark green colums of pachanoi (san pedro) contains 600mg of mescaline along with companion alkaloids. Now I took 2.5 feet of extract which is 1500mg of mescaline. Which was of course too much to take all at once. I am going to return to my roots on one of my next journeys with mescalito. I am going to prepare juice from one feet of pachanoi column. I discovered the actual tek for this during the extraction tek but have yet to partake of the sacrament in this way. I found the juice drinking to be quite pleasurable in the past and have been feeling a return to this. Now that I am confident of the power contained within 1 foot of column. I would like to try it in this fashion. I have found mescaline is best taken in communion with nature rather then in the forehead of your mind on your couch. I will save those trips for my magic seeds.
     
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    Oh and I did want to mention. If 2.5ft of pachanoi skins yield 40oz of juice them 2.5 equals 5 fifths divided by 40oz equals 8oz cup x 2 = 16oz. We are gonna have to experiment with simmering it down to a more manageable quantity. We can try to simmer it down to 8oz of cactus juice equalling 600mg of mescaline plus companion alkaloids. the other drugs in the cactus that intermingle with the mescaline intoxication and put its signature on the experience. I do know that when the intoxixation hits with the juice after an hour that you usually will have to purge. It's amazing how the body absorbs all the goods before expelling the medicine.
     
  3. st3wy

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    word up dog you gotta alot of powerful shit to say. i have ingested 14. in of dark green san pedro and ate all the green flesh. strait ate it chased it with water and smoked herb. i had an enlightening experience but i felt that i needed to take about twice as much to really trip. the weight of what i ate is about half of a threshold dose to my knowledge. A good dose (wet) is anywhere from 8-12 oz. of green flesh from san pedro. i took 4 ounces still tripped but did not journey to mescalito land only had a taste of the divine
     
  4. ancient powers

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    Yeah man when I was making extract I was cutting off all the dark green skins and blending in a blender until i had flourecent green cactus smoothie. Brought it to a boil stirring occasionally. Allowed to simmer while i stirred. Now this is the part I want to experiment with is to strain through a regular mesh baking strainer. My Theory is according to my math that 1 foot of blended cooked and strained pachanoi skins will equal 2 cups of sacred cacti juice 16oz. If we simmer it down to 8oz. Thats not asking alot since peyote ceremonies serve peyote in a juice fashion in some sects. Pound that 8oz. Learn to take it like a mescalito man. my math of course led to the discovery of 600mg mescaline per foot. I know the extract from 2.5 feet is to much. Trust me I did it twice. I went from starting this adventrue thinking I wanted it all. Then had it all twice. this last extract has led to working with dosage. I took a gram but it was not weighted and was smaller then the main piece I took it from. the other phat gram was given to a worthy traveler for a biased test. I still have the choice side of the other 2 grams that i will take all at once. It should yield the the power of 1.25ft pachanoi magic.
     
  5. IliseNcre8t

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    so u think 3ft or 5ft of san pedro famous smoothie,, for 3 to 5 people, hey ancient i like ur style, likely to engage in some of ur great work hopefully u keep the info flowing
     
  6. st3wy

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    are you saying you have 2 G's of M.E.?
     
  7. st3wy

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    so your saying one foot of skins blended and cooked is one dose or two dose? how much water are you using when you boil?
     
  8. ancient powers

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    Sorry I've been away guys. 1 foot = 1 dose. You dont have to use water if your blending fresh cactus. You utilize the water already in the cactus. cut the outer dark green skins. and blend them into a frothy smoothie. simmer down to a juice and leave on low to evaporate. filter through a regular metal mesh baking strainer.
     
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    Ive been away working on LSA. Im at the point now where I have tripped so much I need a new atmosphere. I need to get away into the untouched wilderness away from the matrix. I have been looking up camp sites in the forest registry. I want to take my 2gs out into the wilderness without any worries. I think I will save the couch laying tripping for ayahuasca or maybe even salvia if I can get the tincture right.
     
  10. moomooman

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    so you only need to use the skins and the little bit of green flesh under it? i remember one time we blended up a bunch of cactus and had a lot of goop to drink. it sucked ass and didnt work like we wanted. would you say its ok to blend and drink the skin as long as the spines are off?
     
  11. st3wy

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    yeah and you want all the green flesh
     
  12. st3wy

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    dude honestly ancientpowers i think your calculations are a bit off 600 mgs is one hell of a dose a good dose is 300-350... 600 is a heavy dose plus it depends how much you cacti weighs... in one G of dried Mesc. there is said to be between 2-3 mgs of mescaline
     
  13. moomooman

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    yeah, but you dont eat the white flesh though? only the little bit thats green under the skin?
     
  14. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    i thought you were supposed to eat the green and white flesh and throw out the peel and core
     
  15. moomooman

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    yeah me too, thats why im trying to get to the bottom of this. these guys are saying it like you only need to eat the green flesh. i know thats where the majority of the alkaloids are, but i thought the white flesh was supposed to be eaten too. i just dont want to have to eat more bitter material than i have to. i mean the whole cactus is bitter, so shouldnt the alkaloids be in the whole thing?
     
  16. ancient powers

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    You know I started by using the whole blending the whole cactus core and everything in a blender. with water. boiling for 12 hours. straining through a shirt and squeezing out a ball of floresent cactus mush. failed. I started using only the dark green flesh with the skins success. Someone should try tripping off only the white part. I heard thats where all the sickening chemicals are. Im not interested. If you run the skins and dark green flesh through a vegtable juicer you can get bomb trips that way. so far thats been my best trips. apart form the extract. even though you gotta puke and taste the bitter medicine. good luck you guys. Im going back to blending it in th blender simmering into a juice. straining out the solids and slowly simmering it down to a managable quantity. I believe it to be the best and most effective way. The mescaline is more alive when its fresh. I will let you guys know more about that later.
     
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    well if i can get by from just the skin and the little bit of green flesh under it, then im not gunna waste my time with some pinche extraction. i'll just eat it, but i'll probably just scrape the green flesh off the skin with my teeth, or something else. no sense in wasting your time if thats the only parts that need to be consumed.
     
  19. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    i don't have any experience with san pedro yet but i currently have a cutting and i am in the process of drying it out. to my knowledge, the green flesh has most of the mescaline and there are smaller amounts in the white flesh. i can't see just wasting the smaller amounts...it's still mescaline...and it was still payed for. so i chopped up the green/white flesh and left it out to dry. i have it all on 3 separate trays and they've been sitting in front of my air conditioner for a little over two days and they're almost completely dried out. i'm guessing tonight it will probably be done. then i'm grinding it in a coffee grinder and saving the powder until saturday. i'll let you guys know how it goes.
     
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    Yes, that seems to be the case. Most of the mescaline is in the green portion of the skin where it is, by the way, the most needed since it serves as insect-repellent.
     

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