church condemning harry potter

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by cotopaxi, May 17, 2008.

  1. cotopaxi

    cotopaxi Member

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    neither i am a christian nor a crazy fan of rowling books but i find harry potter quite well written book to read when you have a lot of time. i knew that church doesn't especially 'like' it but i recently found a report where mad about christianity woman denounces it badly... (thing in polish so no point in linking it)

    why the church sees in theese books so much cruelty? the woman said the 'normal' christian shouldn't fancy reading harry potter because true christians don't fancy fear... wtf? why church doesn't condemn all the horror films, documentaries about murders, adventure books or even daily news?
    i would like understaning christians explain me, because either am i dumb or they also don't understand the point of great cruelty of fairy tales...? the same with dan brown books... why is it so denounced by church? don't the 'true normal christians' really see that many of books is not about reality, but pose some kind of metaphore or so? are they really that dumb or they are trying to make minor christians dumb?
     
  2. sexylilunicornbutt

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    Christians don't fancy fear. ...

    HELL?! SATAN?!! Christianity is responsible for perhaps the most fearsome ideas ever perpetrated upon humanity.

    Just a theory... The reason it is so denounced by the church is because the church is boring. Its patrons are bored and boring, and they need something to occupy their time.
     
  3. SelfControl

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    The church is pretty against magic (as oppose to miracles). Kinda makes sense, really. I'm not saying they're right, but it's easy to see why they'd have a problem with it.

    The Discworld novels are better though.
     
  4. cotopaxi

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    well, church is against practicizing magic but there's nothing about writting and reading fairytales... even kids read potter rather for fun, not to fight with trolls, make things levitate or so. if they were, they would read quite other books...
     
  5. hitsuzen

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    Because JK Rowling is OVBIOUSLY trying to convert all children to Wicca.
    Duhhh.


    (Some people make this argument. Really. hahahahaa)
     
  6. SelfControl

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    Don't get my wrong, I know this is more than likely just a case of the "ban everything!" crowd getting all het up about anything and everything that'll distract them from their failing marriage, and you'd hope no-one will take it even slightly seriously. I'd hope. But unfortunately, when it comes to kids, these people seem to be able to throw their weight around, because they can use the usual "I pay my taxes" crap and demand rules be implemented in schools which, in any actual democracy, would immediately be discounted as retarded attacks on sanity. They're the same over-protective pricks who get yo-yos banned from school every year because it turns out that if you hit someone with a yo-yo it hurts or whatever other stupid thing. Most of them just need a damn good shagging, but apparently you're not allowed to say that.
     
  7. neodude1212

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    they are only giving it so much attention, as opposed to all sorts of horror movies and fantasy novels, because harry potter has grown so popular.

    I guess it worries them, because it is so widespread, and could easily be introduced to their children.

    if the novels had been a duds, they would have never given them the time of day.
     
  8. sexylilunicornbutt

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    They're not worried. They're neurotic. Not exactly the same things.
     
  9. SelfControl

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    I'm surprised that the fundamentalist reaction against Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy hasn't been greater, considering what it's actually based on.
     
  10. hitsuzen

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    There have been a lot of protests against it.. but not as much considering it was not as big of a phenomenom as Harry Potter was.
     
  11. SelfControl

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    If they were only as bad as each other I'd understand it, but I mean, doesn't one of the good guy characters kill God or something?
     
  12. neodude1212

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    I know I'm no basis to speak for everyone else, but I've never heard of that trilogy. Is it very popular?
     
  13. scratcho

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    They're worried some might be influenced to step off the vast money-machine,brain fuck treadmill they have going for themselves.i shouldn't complain about church tho.Last time I went, they passed a plate around with beer money in it!I never knew!
     
  14. SelfControl

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    Kinda. Mainly, it's way more outspokenly anti-religious than Harry Potter.
     
  15. neodude1212

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    I've never thought of Harry Potter as anti-religious.

    It's just the religious that is anti-Harry Potter.
     
  16. Reefer Rogue

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    Most Christians have no problem with Harry potter because it's a book. Though i could see someone make a comparison that the bible is a book and inspires a lot of people, so why couldn't harry potter do the same but in a 'negative' way? =/ It's good reading and the films aren't bad either.
     
  17. neodude1212

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    actually I just did some research, and found out that there has been a lot of reaction against it.

    the first book Northern Lights was released as The Golden Compass here in the US.

    I remember when that movie came out in december of last year. there was a lot of reaction against it.
     
  18. sexylilunicornbutt

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    There are certain Christians who will latch on to anything that is popular because they are simply bored and neurotic.
     
  19. Finnaz

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    Well the His Dark Materials was more of an attack on the abuses of organised religion, rather than religion it's self. But yeah, they kill God (though, in the trilogy, which is set in an alternate universe, the 'God' in power is actually Lucifer, who succeeded in defeating God, and rather than being cast out, took power. At least that's what I remember, I read the books several years ago)
     
  20. neodude1212

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    where did they kill God?
     

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