Argemone corymbosa (Mojave prickly poppy)

Discussion in 'Exotic Psychedelic Plants' started by Hooliday, May 18, 2008.

  1. Hooliday

    Hooliday Member

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    Hey!

    Could somebody be kind enough to explain what is this stuff?

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    Argemone corymbosa (Mojave prickly poppy)
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    I am particulary interested in smoking it. I have some follow up questions if anybody could answer me about the effects of this drug, and also dosages.

    bouncingbearbotanicals.com sells various formations of it, but to be honest i do not know the difference between seeds, foliage, extract and latex?

    I really just want to know if this drug works, can it be smoked and what are the cost for a decent trip.

    Thanks so much.
     
  2. Hooliday

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    Wouldn't anybody have a clue what these things are? :-(
     
  3. Sensei

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    seeds- put in the ground to make a new plant. pry not intended for dosing.
    foliage- just the straight leaf of the plant
    extract- more concentrated than foliage, likely a fluid
    latex- like a solid extract

    I would say that extract would be best for oral dosage, latex for smoking. the foliage might be too weak on its own.

    try www.erowid.org
     
  4. Hooliday

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    Do you have first hand information of this product. Have you seen/have/had it?

    I read this from a website


    Usually one rolled cigarette of dried Prickly Poppy is sufficient to produce an euphoric effect lasting for 30 minutes. This effect is similar to that of cannabis. No side effects have been related to using Prickly Poppy and the probability for addiction is low.


    Which of these products would be used to roll a cigaret and approximately how much would be required for one trip?

    Thank you again. I appreciate your answers greatly.
     
  5. NorCaliGreenFiend

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    Ive never had prickly poppy, but I can tell you that extracts/resins tend to be better than straight plant matter. Id go with some high grade solid extract and smoke bowls of it till I get high. Erowid doesnt have any info on this plant and Im intrigued, so report back once you try it.
     
  6. Hooliday

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    Now, i've understood im going for the "extract type". Theres just one problem i cant figure.

    Sensei says:

    extract- more concentrated than foliage, likely a fluid
    latex- like a solid extract

    Norcarli saysId go with some high grade solid extract and smoke bowls of it till I get high.

    Are you suggesting me to purchase the latex.

    The prices go like this

    3 grams latex $7.00
    10 grams latex $16.00
    1 gram 15x extract $8.00
    3 grams 15x extract $22.00
    28 grams Foliage $4.00

    How much would you imagine being a trip? Also, you recommend bowls. Doesn't that point out to a pipe or bong rather than rolling a cigaret out of it. Forgive me for all these questions, but honestly nobody seems to know what this stuff is.
     
  7. Hooliday

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    Also, if anybody knows anything about Wild dagga(Lions tail) please let me know. I have a lot of questions if you just have the energy to bear with me. I hope these questions belong to the right section. Please let me know if there are better areas for questions considering these plants.
     
  8. NorCaliGreenFiend

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    Ive tried wild dagga, its nothing to write home about, just another smokable plant with mild effects. I smoke it when Im out of weed.
    about the extract, I just meant get a solid latex, as opposed to a powder or liquid, which are hard to smoke. I assume bowls and joints would have the same end result, although some drugs are water soluble, and bongs dont work, so try a pipe.
     
  9. Sensei

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    Are you suggesting me to purchase the latex.


    yes.


    How much would you imagine being a trip?

    this won't be a 'trip', it will be a body buzz. and it will depend on how much you want to feel it, and your personal chemistry. you will need to experiment.


    Also, you recommend bowls. Doesn't that point out to a pipe or bong rather than rolling a cigaret out of it.
    yes it does. but if it will get you buzzed from a cigarette, it will get you buzzed from a pipe or bong. more efficiently, in fact.




    , but honestly nobody seems to know what this stuff is.
    we know what it is. it is a plant that will give you a light buzz when injested. I have personally smoked a few bowls of the dried plant material, and its noticable but nothing great.
     
  10. Sensei

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    wild dagga is another plant for a mild buzz. I would say that I prefer this one over the prickly poppy. however, neither of them are great. this isn't a good place for these questions, but there isn't a place on these forums for mildly psychoactive plants.
     
  11. Hooliday

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    Sensei, if you are familiar with this site http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/kratom-plants-p-397.html

    are there any smokeable products besides salvia you would recommend? Pricky poppy and lions tail were my foundings but you seem to put them down pretty hard :) Basicly, i just want to smoke something pleasureable at the moment, thats not weed(heh). Was hoping for something more exotic, any suggestions?

    Also, i'll buy some latex pricky poppy, thank you for the help. 10 grams latex costs around 16$. I think bowl is a relative definition but how much you would need for a buzz? Im trying to calculate approximate price for 1 time.

    Im in scandinavia so it'll take a while to come before i can report back. I'd like to order lions tail as well but im completely confused about the menus AGAIN.

    3 grams 20:1 Extract $22.00
    56 grams Foliage $8.00
    7 grams Dried Flowers $9.00
    28 grams Flowers $25.00

    Alright,

    Foliage is standart leaves. A nono.

    Extract, liquid possibly. Stronger leaves stuff, liquid? No idea how it's consumed.

    Flowers, I imagine you smoke the flowers?

    Dried flowers, Whats the big difference between dried and normal ones?

    The products will take 2 weeks to even ship to my country. I can't buy anything that will lose potency within a month or less.

    Im sorry about all these questions, but you gotta learn from somewhere..I honestly browsed all the google links first :(
     
  12. Sensei

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    having tried a TON of legal herb things, the things that seem best are:
    -salvia (I know you said no, but I like it)
    -dagga (if you are limited in possibilites, it isn't bad. get an extract or flowers)
    -blue lotus (extract or flowers)
    -kratom
    -amanitas (very smokable)
    -spice gold is reportedly good, but I've never done it
    -you could make opium from poppy pods (not legal)
     
  13. Hooliday

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    I'll purchase the pricky poppy to test, but how much latex would you imagine being needed for a buzz at maxium?

    Yeah, of course i can buy some Wild dagga. Flowers or dried flowers, whats the difference? How much do you think would be required for one buzz at maxium?

    7 grams Dried Flowers $9.00
    28 grams Flowers $25.00
    3 grams 20:1 Extract $22.00



    About Blue lotus, there seems to be a lot of alternatives too. I should see into it better.

    About opium poppy's, they sell it with these prices.
    Seed Pack Hens and Chicks
    $5.00 Seed Pack var. nigrum Black Seeded Variety
    $5.00

    Isn't opium poppy used to make tea? Is turning it into pure opium hard/expensive?

    Trying to calculate what i can afford :)
     
  14. Sensei

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    how much latex it takes will depend on the strength they make. I would bet that you will at least feel a sphere, say O big.

    as I remember the dagga, I could feel one bowl/joint worth, so maybe a third of a gram of dried flowers.

    and... PM sent
     
  15. Hooliday

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    how much latex it takes will depend on the strength they make. I would bet that you will at least feel a sphere, say O big?

    O big? :) Heh, my language skills kind of hit the wall here.. A gram, two, three of later for a decent buzz?


    as I remember the dagga, I could feel one bowl/joint worth, so maybe a third of a gram of dried flowers.


    So, dried flowers i should buy? Third of a gram? Isn't that dirt cheap considering how little dryed flowers cost?

    Whats the difference between dryed and normal flowers. Lifespan? How long lifespan would you give for pricky poppy latex/Wild dagga flowers/Dryed flowers?
     
  16. NorCaliGreenFiend

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    I think youre over-analyzing the situation, just buy some stuff that looks good, try it, and find out for your self. There is always some trial and error involved, you cant avoid that. Ive ordered a bunch of stuff Ill never take, like betel chews, or 3 grams of 10x syrian rue extract, but its cool, because now I know what I like.
     
  17. Hooliday

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    I am sorry.

    I am only trying to analyze approximate cost for a buzz for each product. It's really hard to estimate starting dosage when you have never even heard of the product. Im sure you understand what im saying here.

    Pricky poppy
    Lions tail

    Both completely unknown to me, but i want to try! =)
     
  18. Sensei

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    by O big I mean a spherical chunk about the size of an O. pry a fifth of a gram or so. and yes, dagga is cheap, because it is simple to grow, it doesn't get you that high, and there isn't too much of a demand for it. illegal drugs aren't that expensive to grow/make, its just everyone marks up a ton for the risk factor and because demand is so high compared to a limited supply.
     
  19. Hooliday

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    Hey,

    I got my products on the post.

    14 Grams of dried wild dagga flowers.
    10 Grams of pricky poppy latex.

    Few questions;

    1. The pricky poppy latex is, well. A black thick pile :) How do you use it?
    I was hoping this could be used in a cigaret too, possible?

    2. I assume dagga flowers can be rolled as a cigaret to smoke, or alternatively consumed by a bong or a pipe. Correct?

    Thanks :)
     
  20. NorCaliGreenFiend

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    Id advise a pipe or bong for the latex, and a cigarette will work fine for the dagga. The smoke is quite harsh, though, so a bong would make it better.
     
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