MG LSA physical effects / motor skills

I'm interested in trying the water extraction method. Would 150 Heavenly Blue seeds be a good quantity for a first timer to MG & lsa?

I know that I never had any motor skill issues (clumsiness, staggering, slurred speech) with LSD. Are there any such side effects with LSA?

Assuming I don't feel too tripped out or tired, I am considering a 10 minute bike ride to the beach. Does that seem like a safe thing to do?

I thank you for any helpful input.

 

Would 150 Heavenly Blue seeds be a good quantity for a first timer to MG & lsa?

I dont think that will do anyting to that youll notice. unless you havent had sleep for a day or two.. up to 400 seed for the min...dose. imo..

good luck.

 

400 seeds will be a medium to stronger effect and it will give you a nice feel of what tripping is like. With me, there was this strange supernatural force playing with me and my legs (like with LSD) so yes, you may experience clumsyness. You may also experience nausia and this cool chilling effect. Enjoy!

 

its not even as much a case that youll be slurred or blurred like alcohol, instead its more like the way that when youre stoned, youre relaxed and dont put effort into each part of your actions. when i was on an LSA peak, all i wanted to do was sink into the grass deeper and deeper. the stillness of the earth holding my body against it. the only force on my body being the weight of itself and the texture of the ground and the movement of air across it

 

does anybody else get craps from them. i also get a weird numbness, not an anesthetic numb, but a differnt kind of numbness.

 

OK, so I did my first water extraction. A bit of a comedy of errors, actually. I bought all the stuff and got up this morning at 9 to do the extraction, figuring I'd let it steep an hour or two in the fridge. To my great anoyance the piece 'o' crap coffee grinder I bought at Target didn't work. I tried smashing them with a hammer, but they're tough little suckers! I resorted to my pepper mill. This took some time, and was a bit of a "GRIND" (get it? sorry!) but it did the job. Finally around 10:30 I dumped the grinds in about 1 pint of distilled water and the juice of one lemon (I read that might help - at least the taste). After going to the gym I finally did the filtration but the paper coffee filters just plugged right up. Not wanting to wait any longer I resorted to using one of my shorts (clean, thank you very much!) as a filter!.

I initially bought pearly gates by mistake, and then heavenly blues. I're read heavenly blues are stronger. Since I knew the extraction wasn't going to be optimal, I used the pearly gates.

I bought the seeds from shamansgarden.com. The order arrived very quickly and they seem very nice.

I drank the extract of approx. 200 pearly gates seeds, ground thru a pepper mill (probably too coarse), and soaked in 500 ml distilled water for about 2-1/2 - 3 hours in the fridge. I drank it at 1:30 PM. At first I thought I was just buzzing on the endorphins from the workout, but I definitely got an effect. Not a trip, but a definite buzz. It is now 6 PM and I seem to be coming down. Not real psychedelic effects, just a general wierd buzz. My pupils are somewhat dilated. A bit of ringing in the ear. No nausea at all at any time.

I definitely expected more from 200 seeds, so I assume that something was not right with the procedure. Obviously I need a better grinding device than my pepper mill. Was is the optimal soaking time for the water extraction, considering I don't seem to get nausea? I do want to avoid the imfamous "strichnine effect, which sounds nasty. Any feedback and tips are appreciated.

 

Ive gotten the Shits if thats what you mean? I took 15 hbwr seeds and 200 mghb. earlier I went into this dream state of mind where I thought I was going to lay down and I was dizzy. My legs were heavy, I thought I did sleep but I didnt, vision was distorted but not totally impared. Felt a drunk I could control.

you posted this elseswhere But I didnt comment, I never done pearly gate. I just toss em down with ginger ale and lemon wedges.. Im lazy but it works.
Avoid all extractions altogether and do it the natural way.

 

ill get the shits if i dont vomit. but i meant like cramps on your hamstrings.

 

yeah man, my legs hurt. I didnt puke and Im still very spacey...

 

I did MG's once (today) I went dirt biking the day before, and went to the gym before taking them, so sore legs may well be due to those things. Actually enjoyed bicycling (hats off to Dr. Hoffman), so leg pain (and nausea), not a problem at all, at least at the low dosage I did.

 

pearlys must be relatively weak. to ate 50 heavenlys whole and chewed lightly.

gave me a decent buzz, slight colur amplifications (VERY slight) and my pupils took up like 2X thier size

im planning on doing 350 of these bad boys soon, hoping for a full-on trip.

will use water extraction for an hour or so, and eat a gram or 2 of fresh ginger

 

I'm interested in trying the water extraction method. Would 150 Heavenly Blue seeds be a good quantity for a first timer to MG & lsa?

__i took 500 heavnly blues (untreated) and smoked 3 bowls throughout the cource of my trip so it was very intense but not too much.

I know that I never had any motor skill issues (clumsiness, staggering, slurred speech) with LSD. Are there any such side effects with LSA?

___nah but with a very high does i had some severe leg pain and i was extremely tense unless i made an effort to relax my muscels

Assuming I don't feel too tripped out or tired, I am considering a 10 minute bike ride to the beach. Does that seem like a safe thing to do?

___bikes are ok i was way fucked up and bikes were great! i bet the beach would be fuckin awsome!

I thank you for any helpful input.

 

I did a second water extraction on Saturday. Ended up consuming 500 Pearly Gates MG seeds over 7 hours. Ultimately dissappointing.

I did an extraction of 400 seeds using distilled water. Seeds ground fine in coffee mill. Soaked overnight (10 hours), strained thru cloth.

Drank half of it at 11:30 AM. By 1:30 was definitely buzzing, but not tripping. Drank another 100 seeds’ worth at 2 PM and went on bike ride along beach. Got pretty stoned, but no real sensory distortions. The only visual effects were some intensification of colors (flowers), and transparent “floaters” when staring at the featureless blue sky. Overall very euphoric mood. My thinking seemed to be fairly clear, and I was able to function well among “terrestrials”. There might have been some time dialation, as I felt I was cycling slower than I actually was.

After returning home around 5:00 drank remaining 100 seeds’ worth of extraction and made another 100 seeds’ worth, which I drank at 7:00. The disappointment from lack of tripping effects eventually bummed me out, and after about 6 PM the buzz turned lethargic and dull. I could have written this report at the time, but was very much uninclined to do so.

No nausea to speak of. Actually woofed down a hot dog during my bike ride. Slight brief stomach discomfort was solved by eating a 1” piece of fresh ginger. Ate a full dinner later. Slight increase in pulse during peak. My normal resting pulse is around 60-70 bpm, and it was around 80-95 bpm.

A couple of things were probably the problem:

- dosage spread out over too much time
- low power seeds (pearly gates)?
- Tolerance buildup from too-frequent use? I experimented with a 50 seed extraction on Wednesday (minor 4-hour buzz). Will abstain until next weekend. I'll do around 350 or so at once

Next weekend I will take 300 seeds’ worth on Saturday, with 200 seeds’ worth as reserve.

Also I will go on a long overnight flight soon, and am tempted to pass the time with MG. Does anyone have an experience with MG trips on a plane? I plan to drink it before going thru security.

I'm still in the early experimental stage, where I'm still figuring out what these do with me.

 

take 500 all at once soaking for 1 hour in cold water is as good as 10.
wait about 3 days to get your system clear.
if you can get the heavnly blues untreated variaty.

 

OK, so now I'm starting to come down from my latest experiment with MG water extraction. Yesterday I did an extraction with 400 (approx) Heavenly Blue MG seeds. Soaked in water with juice of one lemon for approx. 3 hours (would have done less, but I got delayed). Filtered thru tea sieve, undershirt, and then a cloth napkin (progressively finer).

Today at 3 PM took about 3/4 of the extraction and went to the beach on my bicylce as usual. This time the queasiness did hit me, starting about 20 min. after consuming it, lasting about an hour. A couple of things might have contributed:
- soaked too long
- higher dose
- didn't have ginger to take with it. Ginger seems to really help! I took some later and it did help get rid of the remaining uneasy feeling.
- temperatures in the 90's and sitting in the sun.

Anyway, I'm still not sure what I experienced was a true "trip" per se, but I did get pretty high! No visual distortions, but it definitely affected my perception of light, colors, angles and shapes. Also distance perception was affected. Some subtle tracers and floaters. This wasn't that extreme, but it was there. Looking at the ocean with the late afternoon light was awesome. MG seems to be a good "bonding with nature" drug. Looking at pelicans flying by was also very cool.

Despite living by the beach, I actually rarely go into the ocean, but today I felt compelled to jump into the surf, which was actually very enjoyable. MG seems to be a real body-oriented drug, I'm figuring out. One thing I need to do at one point is get a massage while on the seeds. That seems like it would be awesome.

One interesting point is that the buzz seems to come and go in intensity. At times I think it's ending, and then it comes on again.

In the evening rode home on my bike. Still hot, so I stayed in A/C apt. with the lights off and the shades drawn, and chiled out to some music (Beatles Revolver, which sounded nice). Got lost in the music. No synesthesia - floating eyes-closed colors - like with acid, but floating away. Breathing felt heavy at times, which worried me a bit - bit of a bummer. Went out to my patio and watched the sunset. This was actually very nice - melancholy feeling, with the birds quieting down.

So now 5 hours later I'm off the peak for sure, but still quite buzz. I was thinking about drinking the remaining extraction, but the stomach issue and the occasional intensity convinced me otherwise.

So was it a trip or not? I would say borderline. Next time will do 400 seeds, with shorter extraction time, and not forget the ginger!

 

just one comment I forgot to make. I had initially intended to wait an entire week w/o, but Wed. night I gave in a got a buzz off 100 seeds. This may have diminished the effects of today's dose. I will abstain for 2 weeks to see what happens.

 

if you have some weed, smoke a bowl about an hour after you drink it. that really sets me off... also i wouldnt recommend anything below 500 seeds, if you want to trip, and you want visuals, take a large does its that simple

 

i dont know why so many people say you need liek 400 for a minimum trip, you guys are insane. i did 150 and had a head trip and vaguely saw colored patterns and things moving..

 

what you call a head trip could be considered a buz to some. its all from perspective. different people have different views on whats intense for them. what you described from 150 seeds sounds like a buzz to me. vaguely seeing colored patterns and things moving wouldnt be enough to make me say im tripping, itd make me say damnit i hope they're still kicking in and i didnt waste my time, cause vaugely isnt enough for me. its too easily confused with my sober mindset.

 

also keep in mind that everyone's reaction will be unique. Same goes for the nausea. Some people puke their guts out with water extractions. I got kinda queasy at worst. Bottom line is you have to figure out how it works on you. Also, you need to figure out how much intensity you can (and want to) handle.