Creationism in schools: will we see it here?

Pretty much as the title says, will the fascist anti-intelligence Christian bigots win? Will the theory that a "god" made the earth in seven literal days ever be taught in English schools?
I don't include faith schools here, I mean like including it on the National Curriculum.

 

Interesting question

I voted "No, never", because despite the recent rise in volume and shrillness from some vocal christian groups and evangelists, the trend is irrevocably towards secularism and away from faith. The European Union is a largely secular community and we have practical, if not legal, separation of church and state in this country. What we are witnessing are the last spasmodic convulsions of a belief system that is dying, and knows it.

Even in the USA, somewhat behind the curve on this, the Kitzmiller trial established that it is "unconstitutional" to teach intelligent design (ie creationism) alongside evolution. As these wrongheaded and sometimes dangerous ideas die out, quenched by the cold light of reason, we are bound to see some death throes...

 

Not much to add to what lithium said. Except that, at least since they stopped burning people, the established church has generally avoided taking hard-line positions, and there are still many scientists who manage to combine Christian beliefs with an empirical and rational approach to their own research.

Although "never" is a long time - another dangerous idea was the Whig interpretation of history as "an inevitable progression towards ever greater liberty and enlightenment" (wikipedia), a thesis which was soundly rebutted by events in Europe in the first half of the 20th century.

 

I would have thought that this thread would have suited a better place in Religion forum. In answer to your question though. God did create the Earth in seven days. But each day was like a million years. It is only when man came along that a day began to have 24 hours in it. And I suppose when we talk about seven days as being a million or billion years a day. I believe that God did this through what we call Evolution. And yet, God's work is still not done.
But anyway that is my personal belief.

There are a variety of schools that promote creationism. Goldsmiths college to name one that is local. There are the usual state run schools. But hopefully if britain votes in a different party, we might see some positive changes. But it seems now Gordon Brown has fucked that prospect up all ready. By making us liable for any doom that betides Northern Rock. Forget sending your kids to colleges and better schools. If Northern Rock fails and the bonds dont work out. We foot the bill, we lose the money which could have been used for our childrens scholastic achievements. There you go, vote labour, pay the consequences-literally. Labour. No more Labour posters in my window.

 

Thought it was more appropriate here, as it's only related to the UK.. but then again it seems to be a non-issue, we don't exactly have a shortage of right-wing religious nuts, but they seem to (for the moment) lack the power base to get this kinda shit passed.

 

There are indeed state funded faith schools which push at the boundaries of what is legally required by the national curriculum, the infamous 'city academy' of Emmanuel College, Gateshead being a case in point. We need far tighter controls on what is allowed to be taught. Religious hegemony and inculcation must be fully excised from all public life, and schools particularly...

 

The government are now focusing on getting our kids to do PE five hours a week. No doubt we will see an influx of kids with sprained ankles, pulled hamstrings and broken wrists and heart failure. PE is good enough as it is. There needs to be more creationism. The government are simply trying to create a super race of adult that are super thin and require nothing from the NHS, apart from a Wellmans. Which roughly translates, Government have no plans to revolutionise the NHS. So whilst more kids are dragged from creative education and running about the football pitch with paleness. Our country will continue to become uninspiring and will have a lack of culture. British culture? Creationism my arse. I reckon parents should protest for more creationism in our schools. But judging on the parent next door, I think that is pretty unlikely.

 

Bloody, hell, 5 hours of PE??? It was torture doing 2! Being extremley uncoordinated and rather weedy, I never was very good at it in comparison to everyone else. Oh the times I got picked last for teams, sob.

 

I'm still trying to work out what PE and the NHS have to do with creationism:uhoh2: If only I could understand the inner workings of J0rg's mind I feel I would have unlocked something deeply mysterious about the nature of the universe...

 

Our education system is nothing like it used to be. I remember in the good old days. It was 1988-89, and we were taught things that would generally help us develop. From making slices of toast, to learning the alphabet and watching educational programmes. I remember this one student called Simon. He used to wear a bicycle helmet and he used to laugh himself off the chair. He had a dribble problem, but his laugh was quite amusing. Then there was this other kid called Ian. He had a thing for Natasha, who apparently used to bully him or say things to him. Ian had this idea of a place of punishment. It was called Iash. It was his equivalent to Hell. He located his personal Hell in the cloakroom cupboard. He suggested it had a red lightbulb. He would tell me this as we got into lines after playtime. The name of my school was Bower Grove. It was in Kent. Just up the road, was a BP garage, then down the road, was the river Medway.

But anyway, there was a better standard of education. even fieldtrips which were both creationist and discoverist. We basically learned both aspects to life. Nowadays, Labour have turned what was once good, into a turbulent system for kids. No wonder that five year olds already know how to hold and fire a magazine, and how to use a complex array of knives and other stabbing weapons. They are becoming advanced in crime. It seems now that it is all up middle finger to the education system. Well, that is New labour. We should have kept our current prime minister at the time.

 

I can almost see bolts sometimes.

 

Baffling ... just ... baffling:stunned:

 

Back to the idea of more PE in schools - i think thats a wonderful idea

Healthy body, healthy mind etc etc

 

Urgh, you didn't go to my scool did you elaine? That was our motto for 2006, it sucked.

 

Aghhh Cross Country today/tomorrow, lost track of what time it is, bloody insomnia.

 

When I went to primary school i was always taught about God and christianity even though i am Buddist and they knew that

 

same. Which is why i voted for yes.

Every week they prayed in assembly. Every week. A bible story and all that...
Wouldnt surprise me if they put the creationism in.