so is it better to smoke weed before you trip on dmt or not? i think ive heard its better to not. opinions?
Doesn't really matter, the DMT will completely overpower it. Some cannabis for the come down is supposed to be nice though.
Like was stated above, once you get that rush, you're only high on DMT. I've smoked a blunt right before smoking DMT and by the time I came down from tripping, I was completely sober.
Marijuana with a little tobacco is a good thing to have rolled and ready as it helps if you feel overcome by your experience. This smoke will give you a different perspective and a grip on the situation. However, it will compromise the potential benefits of your dmt experience since one entity will be distracting you from the other. This all depends on your motivation for having a dmt experience. If you are looking for something life changing,awakening, and pure, follow the strict diet, centre yourself and stay away from any other mind altering substances before during and after. If you are looking to abuse it and go for a strict recreational experience then it doesnt matter what you do since all you would care about is entertainment. peace be with you, Mudjekeewis
IMHO: DMT is probably better if you have not been chronically smoking weed for a while, as that could dull your senses and alertness, and therefore dull the experience. However, if you haven't been smoking for a while (or very little), smoking a little before can sometimes be positive, and smoking soon after the peak could be an interesting way to reflect on the peak. If you go to Peru and meet a shaman for some ayahuasca, they may tell you no sex (or orgasm by other means) and no deodorant for a certain period of time before. (And of course special diet and no medication of any kind including weed, etc.) So, if you are emulating what the shaman do, you could follow those rules. This may be a little off topic, but: I'm not so sure that a substance or chemical (or for that matter even a plant) can be sacred on it's own. It's our traditions, customs, and personal relationship with them that can be sacred. Because of this, different cultures experience the sacredness of substances in different ways...and even every individual has his or her own unique way of experiencing the sacredness of substances or other ritual objects based on his or her life experience. I would not feel valid implying that my relationship with a substance or object is more correct than someone else's, and definitely wouldn't feel right believing that I fully understand someone else's relationship....especially someone who grew up and lives in a very different culture than me. I guess what I'm getting at is that because you choose to use something in a different way that I would, I wouldn't call it abuse, because I have no idea where you are coming from. One of the things that DMT (and other psychedelics) can teach is that we should all be humble and that if we have an air of superiority because we do things differently than someone else...then that feeling is something we might want to reevaluate.
Peacegrow, You make some good points. It was not my intent to sound as though I have an air of superiority. I am speaking from a humble place and trying to communicate my opinion in an answer to the question. I am humble before the spirit of the ayhuasca who has communicated some sacred truths to me. I speak of these truths in my own language. It has been shared with me that intention, and purity are essential keys to unlock the profound wisdom gift of ayahuasca. I am sharing what has been shared with me. Ayahuasca, and the spirit within are powerful entities that demand a balanced focused participation in order to draw fully on the nourishment and learning opportunity that is at the heart of the experience. If one is seeking a recreational experience and not a profound awakening then there is little or no access to the core of what ayahuasca intend for you because you are simply not receptive, not in a state of awareness. Ayahuasca will test and initiate those who seek its gifts. You must earn the deepest of experiences through demonstration of purity of intent. This includes the sacrifice of strict diet, and the discipline to not be distracted by the wondrous things you encounter. I call the lack of pure intent and discipline "abuse" because this is what I have been accused of by the being itself. I have sought its gifts without being of pure intent, and without appropriate sacrifice. And as a result I was denied the experience I sought. My key simply did not fit the lock. I achieved a level of experience that can best be described as recreational fun. I was told that I abused the priveledge of the encounter. I asked for a meeting and came unprepeared to accept what was offered. I did not make the rules, but rather came aware of them through my experiences. In subsequent meetings I came prepared following the guidelines as explained to me and I achieved a state I sought. Ayahuasca (and dmt) are powerful. Their origin and use predate our current existances. So much can be revealed if we are in a receptive state. If we are not we are like infants at the gates to life's university. I have been there myself. I speak from experience. I share openly what I am able to share and I do it for the benefit of everyone interested in crossing the threshold to the next level. I hope that I have made myself a little clearer. Peace be with you.
I'm thinking smoking weed on the comedown would be amazing, when you can actually acess the pipe put some pot in. Or after the DMT to reflect.
mudjekeewis, sorry I said "air of superiority." I think it's really important for people to express their opinions on these forums, and I don't like threads when people are too kind at the expense of expressing their opinions because they aren't as informative. I'm not saying that you are doing this, but the response sounded like it fit into the category of, what I call, "affected shaman talk." So, I was generalizing, which isn't fair. I sometimes worry that people try to find a specific meaning rather than what they experience in these special substances because they read or hear about stories like those by Carlos Castaneda, which are exagerated at best...or fiction in the minds on some acedemic critics. I think the best way to experience psychedelics is with a good set and setting, but without much expectation for a particular experience. I think if one comes to use an "entity" model to interpret their relationship with these special substances, that's just as valid as anything else. But, I feel like people sometimes feel like they have to use that model because they feel like it's better because others use words like "respectful" or "sacred" to describe that model which implies that other models are disrespectful or unsacred. One step further than that implication is to call other models abuse and recreational (in a derogatory way). So...not so much as a response to you, but for others who read the thread, I wanted to make sure that they feel comfortable having their own experience and develop their own way of interpreting it. If one doesn't, then it's almost like they are using someone else's "set" rather than their own, which could be limiting.
That was well said. I appreciate where you are coming from with this. And I have to admit that when I read my post it does come across with a hint of negative vibe. I didnt intend for this. I still feel the need to clarify since I am new to this forum and want you folks to understand me. When I say recreationally I refer to seeking an experience for fun, like a little vacation from the everyday. We all need this from time to time. And I admit to using ayahuasca to achieve this escape. But while doing so I know I am not going to find the wisdom gift that is possible because Im simply not prepared and receptive and I will definately get distracted by the wondrous thiings I see and hear. I call it abuse because this is what I was told I was doing by a being that referred to itself as ayahuasca. This being I encountered when participating in a spiritual aya evening. HE bacame my guide and is there each time urging me to further purify myself and to learn from each encounter so that I may reach the core of the experience. I was thinking I just needed more each time to go further but was told that it was not more of the brew I needed but rather a specific intent and balanced spiritual state. Like I already had my ticket to ride I just needed to know where I was going before I could get there. I have learned through my experiences that the ayahuasca is indeed an entity , an energy lifeform that I mege with rather than a drug I consume. I have never smoked base dmt and this may be different. I completely agree that each peron who chooses to try to expand themselves with dmt/ayahuasca approach it from a personal perspective. But I suggest larning of the potential and educating themselves about other peoples beliefs and experiences before taking it within themselves. (like any substance) Also, I urge anyone who seeks an experience like I have described, a deep awakening and profound wisdom gift, to try a different setting and approach than a party setting. It did make a huge difference for me. It may for you. We are all individuals and seek our own destinations. But along the way we gather experiences that help us to understand our own purpose and path and our own individual role in the web of life. So, if you have the option, its another experience you may wish to gather into yourself. peace be with you.
I always smoke DMT on weed and I can definitely tell the difference between just DMT or mixxed with weed. It's hard to describe the difference though. It's kind of more hazey.
We've heard from some friends that the cannabis most definitely clouds the DMT experience. Not that it makes it better, or worse, but just less clear, more fuzzy.
dmt gives such a powerful rush and experience that 1) doesnt make sense because dmt will take it over 2) trust me you will not need anything extra during a dmt trip...i mean i dont need any extras to dmt...
it may help you come down after or if you really need to preapre yourself if youre anxoius you may have alittle bit but from my experience pot just makes it more cloudy...and imho you dont need that effect to go with dmt
