Fuck Ché Guevara

1.che looks cool
2.being a communist is trendy
3.che became a symbol rather than a historical figure.
4.i'm typing with my che t-shirt on.(i am definetly NOT a communist.it's just for the rebel within me )

ok,he's done some bad stuff.who's worthy to throw the first stone?
anyone can be vilified.including the hippie icons.just last week i was defending timothy leary,the SDS and the hippie culture in general in a heated conversation with a bunch of metalheads.

 

I am a communist and I don't wear Che t-shirts.

Socialism and Capitalism aren't necessarily more or less free than one another.

 

Ok I don't like violence, but Che is a sign of freedom, and revolution. Before he came to Cuba there was a bad dictator, sure Castro replaces, him and I think he isn't the nicest guy, but I don't. The Cuban missile crisis, well sure, I would love to live in a nuke free world, but of course the US can't leave communist countries alone, so I see why Cuba got nukes. I do think Che is a sign of freedom and revolution, and though I don't like exactly what he did, I do belive in what he wanted with freedom, end to proverty and hungry and so on
".i'm typing with my che t-shirt on.(i am definetly NOT a communist.it's just for the rebel within me )"
Right On!
Peace

 

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very interesting.
Peace

 

How about Theodore Roosevelt. The Democrats have never had a president of his caliber. period.

 

che is a symbol for freedom from oppression. yeah the methods are horrible and im not justifying him killing anyone no matter the issue becuase there are better ways just for people guns are the "easy" way to do something. Although he did help the poor.

 

USSR put them as difence, remember USA put missles in Thurkey first, and if know USA fought dirty man, no others coments you decide.

 

True, I undersand you abouth the thing with the metalheads, I did it all the time but thay don't understand.Exep one, my friend, he understands it.

 

What whould you do if you were Che, ask yourselfs and than you can say what he was, but be honest, if I was him I whould do the same. You know why? It was the only way, If someone hit you you whouldn't let him to baet the sheat out of you, you'll fight back.

 

I wouldn't blindfold and execute the very people that needed my help.

 

Che defended Cuba from american pressence in Cuba. just like the iraq citizens simply want America to stop controling their government. Che and Fidel fought for Cuban indenpendance from america how can you expect their to be no blood shed for such a cause. just look at american revolutionary from america's formation other countries hated the american revolutionary why same reason you hate Che. sure in peacefull times it seems what Che did is crazy but you try living in a coutry controled by america what freedom is that.

 

I suggest we're polling and reading the wrong people here. Florida is full of many Cubans who lived under Castro and his bud....I dont think you'd like their take on it!..we have a doctor and his wife here in our town,and the story he has sure dosent jive with the sympathy(in "any" way)I see on this thread. And the ideology sure dosent match up. Which is why he sez he dosent bother looking at opinions like this from people who only have a theory of how fine Che was. He was there,he knows better,but also knows trying to convince visionaries looking for some other truth in the matter isnt worth his getting aggravated. His line is, he's noticed those who see the good of living under such systems are usually the ones who've never done so.

 

Once I loved Che Guevara. I thought he symbolized all good things, rebellion in the name of freedom.
Then I red a book about him. Yeah, he was a doctor, he wasn't supposted to kill but he did. And he didn't kill just for free his people. He killed also 12 years old children just for fun. I've known he was just a sadic murderer.
That's fucking sad.

 

che was self-less, determined, and very intelligent. he is proof that the proletariat can win the class war, and abolish capitalism. him being a "murderer" as you put it, is out of context. he murdered the bourgeosie, (not innocent people) you know , the people that are controlling and oppressing you right now? what other misguided policies are you talking about? as for trotsky, yes hes very authoritarian, but he would have made a better premier than stalin.

Halie Selassie was an emperor, he murdered people, in he created the perversion of african culture known as rastafariansim, so hes a fascist too, yet you have him on your signature. why should he by admired by the left?

 

bullshit, he was not a sadistic murderer. any proof of that is clearly and obviously capitalist propganda. would you mind posting where you found proof of che killing a 12 year old?

 

Yah, and also some people are saying some cubans don't like their goverment. THATS Castro, not che.
Peace & Love

 

Power and a thirst for killing gave him a hardon.

 

You can have all these qualities and do very bad things with them.

He was proof you can enslave the proletariat in the name of a failed ideology and keep them poor and oppressed for decades.

So you support the rounding up and murdering of people who are too rich?

The people who don't let Cubans have access to a free press? That's the communists. Capitalists are giving me a free press, not taking it away.

So its a choice of bad or worse? Which mass murdering tyrant would you like to impose a totalitarian ideology on you? Oh joy.

 

this is true, but that just depends on your perception of "bad things" are.

enslave the proletariat? who did he enslave might i ask? the cuban people? while he might have participated in the revolution, castro had VERY different economic interests for cuba than che.

too rich, exactly. the murders and exploiters of countless 3rd world, war torn countries for mere profit and control. batista was a puppet of the US, and was responsible for much more repression, economic turmoil, and murders. che was ordered by castro to conduct trials and executions of the La cabana prison. a prison filled with batista's cronies. regardless of how many people he murdered there were far more just than your beloved captitalist world police.

you honestly believe that your "freedom of press" bullshit acctually makes any difference? no matter how free you think you are, theres much more propoganda, and biased/consumerized generated by the US than ANY other country.

neither i dont like either. which filthy rich imperialist war mongeror do you want to give you false freedom?