Who here is a Fascist?

Discussion in 'Fascism' started by water_baby, Oct 29, 2005.

  1. hippypaul

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    "Look at how every neuro-chemical pattern reflects a psycho-dynamic association with deep seated Primate 'Instincts'."



    Provide two examples if you would not mind. I do not know anything about psycho-dynamic association but I do happen to know a bit about neuro-chemical patterns. You can include links to the PET scans if you would like.
     
  2. m6m

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    Let's take the most famous example that first established the psycho-dynamic influence over, and association with, neuro-chemical patterns: SHELL-SHOCK.

    Shell-Shock victims have patterns of behavior that indicate symptoms of severe neurological damage.

    So severe that many could not control their movements or their conversation.

    Yet these victims have NO real physical neurological damage.

    There is no physical neurological explanation for their symptoms.

    What these victims all had in common was that their Survival Instinct was being severely repressed in the trenches by the social conventions of military hierarchy.

    Thus indicating that Primate Impulses such as Survival and Reproduction possess a real Energy, psycho-energy, and like all energy, when repressed, will escape down the path of least resistance.

    That path is provided by patterns of real physical neuro-chemical responses, that have been influenced by severly repressed psycho-energy.

    Establishing the connection between psyche and the physical brain.

    The neurological symptoms of these Shell-Shock victims was cured by releasing from the sub-conscious mind, by means of mere suggestion, the severly repressed psycho-energy.

    Mind over Matter?
    Voodo?
    Shamanism?

    All thoughts, feelings and emotions like everything else in the universe is a form of energy, psycho-energy.

    Like all energy, psycho-energy when repressed, will constantly be in motion seeking its own equilibrium.

    It is though the bio-chemistry of neurology that the physics of psycho-dynamics manifests itself biologically.

    Or, as has been suggested, our neurological system is simply an evolved means to express the dynamics of psycho-energy.

    And, if the Primate Survival Instinct doesn't cast a powerful enough spell over our neuro-cognitive activity, then consider the latent power of all our psycho-sexual energy being repressed by the social conventions of hierarchy.

    Fascism then becomes a natural neuro-cognitive conduit for the repressed dynamics of psycho-energy.
     
  3. m6m

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    You mean like as in,,, dialectical materialism?


    Insight's not enough now?

    If not insight, what exactly are we seeking in this discussion of Fascism?

    So far my observations are the only systematic uncovering of Fascism and every other hierarchical deception I've read so far.

    Of course the Ego is loath to give up its hard earned deceptions.
    And of course the Ego knows what every salesman knows, that you must sell yourself first or the deceptions will never ring true.

    So the resistence to uncovering the Civilized deceptions of our Politics, Business, and Religion is intense.

    It goes right to the core of our Identity.
     
  4. hippypaul

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    "Shell-Shock victims have patterns of behavior that indicate symptoms of severe neurological damage." Shell shock is a term that has not been used since WWI. Current practice in treatment of combat fatigue is in brief intense treatment sessions close behind the lines. A majority of those treated are returned to their units within 48 hours. This is not indicative of severe neurological damage. Severe neurological damage is a diagnosis that has specific clinical indicators. They can range from shifting of brain structures seen in CAT scans to blood in the CSF to alteration in oxygen or glucose uptake in brain regions as seen on PET scans. The information on "Shell Shock" is a little dated. Do you have something a little more current?
    You are trying to have your cake and eat it too. First, you say that severe neurological damage exists. Then you say that no physical signs exist. Now which is it?
     
  5. m6m

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    There was NO actual physical damage, that was the point.

    The condition had NO apparent physical cause what so ever.

    Yet the symptoms existed behaviorally.

    And NO behavior exists without a physical pattern of neuro-chemical responses.

    True, today the symptoms could be relieved chemically, but they were able to effect a cure by simply relieving repressed psycho-energy, and by doing so completely change the behavior.

    This underlines the connections between behavior, repression, and patterns of neuro-chemical responses.

    Fascism is a pattern of both group and individual behavior.

    Yet Fascists do NOT suffer from any greater degree of neurological damage than you our I.

    So it's better to look at repression as its underlying cause, and take apart the psycho-dynamics of Fascist behavior.
     
  6. JanaXGIRL

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    Tell me who all are fascists... I'm gonna put them on my ignore list!
     
  7. AT98BooBoo

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    It didn't goosesteep this time. It crept up on us.

    Do a Google or Yahoo search on the name Prescott Bush (W's grandaddy) and you will find that he laundered money for the Nazis. It seems that this rotten apple didn't fall far from the tree.
     
  8. EwokUtopia

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    Fascism is far too ambiguous of a term to really describe anybodies political leanings. We can either look at it 2 ways
    One is that it is a system based on Benito Mussolini's Italy, which of course didnt do too well, and I dont think there are many people who would call themselves Mussolinian fascists, although this is the purest form of fascism, and the indicator of its flaws.

    The second way of looking at true fascism is through the puppet dictatorships set up by the United States, especially during the cold war. I am talking about military junta's, like that of General Pinochet and Juan Peron to name a few, but I would also include Saddam Hussein (and no doubt the guy the US will pick to succeed him) in this catagory. These were horribly oppressive assholes, and I dont think any informed person who doesnt stand to gain anything personally from this type of government would support it. Under Pinochet and Peron, such acts of terrorism were commited that completely dwarf 9/11, and of course it was all paid for by the good ol' USA.


    I wouldnt really consider Nazism a form of fascism. They were too racist, and not classist enough. Fascists tend to not be so much racist as they are in favour of keeping the status quo. Nazism tried to make all people of German blood into one class, and all other people of course had to "vacate" the state. Now this is where it gets scary, because Nazism has alot of good aspects that mask the evil, henceforth more people are likely to be drawn to it. Fascism is horribly oppressive and it doesnt really do much to help its citizens either. Nazism on the other hand had its citizens well fed, and also fed them such a string of propaganda that they didnt question the state at all, by and large. It appealed to their anger and confusion, of which we have plenty today. Nazism killed people based on race AFTER segregating the races, thus Germans didnt really notice Jews going missing. This is far FAR more dangerous than fascism.
     
  9. _chris_

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    the point on which marx disagreed with hagel i believe...
     
  10. pineapple08

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    Marx was but a prelude to what came later. Lets perfect the world, lets exterminate the jews, lets exterminate the Kulaks, lets exterminate everyone, while we are at it.
     
  11. rainbowedskylover

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    have you been bothered by them already? if no, why should you? or is this some kind of political statement?
     
  12. beoworg

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    dictatorship, central planning, state propaganda, war, the lack of individual liberty, ultrautillitarianism, millions dead and tortured. The primary features of the past proponents of socialism and fascism, both. What's the difference?
     
  13. *__flower__*

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    It depens on what you mean by saying "fascist".
    Let me explain. If you mean racism laws, white power, war and all those kind of things I am not.
    Lots of people see fascism just like that. But that's a degeneration of fascism, because of nazis. I have to admit Mussolini wasn't a genius, he just depended on Hitler and he dreamed of the ancient Roman power.
    But fascism in Italy has been good for a lot of things.
     

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