Old hippies. I am talking about the old dumb ass people who can barely speak a complete sentance. Where does this come from? Is that a bunch of pot? Acid? Shrooms? ...Or other drug(s)? Maybe it is just from frequent use, i dont know but i dont want to turn into a stupid old smelly hippie. Its cool when your young, but i dont want something permanant that will make me dumb for the rest of my life. Any thoughts?!?! ...ps- and im sorry if this offends any of you, not all of you are dumb, im just talking about becoming burn out, how does that happen?
it comes from not being able to distinguish between mind expansion and fuck-you-ups. although pot, shrooms and acid are mind expanding, put in the hands of a stupid person who just wants to get fucked up, you can become a burnout using these by simply doing too much too often. like i said, a lot of people just like getting fucked up so theyll do anything they can get their hands on to get fucked up, regardless of what it may do to you in the long run.
Is it that these people became that way due to their lifestyle and drug use or were they always kind of fucked up and ended up where they were because they weren't capable of doing anything else? Lots of mentally ill or just plain fucking weird people like to do drugs but it doesn't mean it's the drugs that made them that way.
i think this largely depends on the drugs of choice. the native people of mexico using peyote, mushrooms salvia, lsa etc seem relatively healthy and accute. their beliefs may be very strange to use...but they seem smart and sane although very differnet thinking. same goes for south american people who use yage frequently. their religion is very strange to me, but they seem very smart and straight minded. i have never talked to a "smart" sounding meth addict...adn most herion addics i have met are pretty out there...i would venture to guess "burnouts" are caused more from "dangerous" chemicals than from "mild" chemicals.
the most intelligent people i have ever met are weed/lsd/mushroom/mescaline users who likely were helped become that way due to revelations realized while on these drugs.
Again I have to say that correlation does not equal causation. It's much more likely that intelligent/open minded people seek out psychedelics rather than they make you that way. I smoke weed and do psychedelics and nothing else (even though I've tried all the common drugs). The motivation behind why someone would take psychedelics is different than the motivation behind why someone does heroin or cocaine or whatever.
i agree with you, i was somewhat trying to state it that way but i guess i didnt word it properly. doing psychedelics doesnt make you a wiser person, wiser people just use them to make themselves even wiser.
The way to avoid becoming a smelly old Hippie (note: ALWAYS capitalize Hippie) is to bathe frequently, genius. Duh. Then you become a clean old Hippie like me, who lives good and has lots of pussy.
dude honestly prolonged use of mushrooms lsd or mescaline even pure mdma shows no effects to the brain besides hangover type effects from being on that certain drug. lsd frys you out, mdma does the same haha, shrooms make you kinda spacey and shit ya know but as long as you don't do those drugs all the time you will be completely fine just changed by the experiences that those drugs have put you through. I have never met a hippie that was all fucked up and could barely talk. most hippies are down to earth you can just totally tell they have tripped major balls it's like a universal telepathic communication that people are barely in touch with.
psychedelics are tools. use tools in the wrong way the back fire. use tools in the right way they help you through fixing things or becoming more in touch with your true self
All of those old burnouts were burnt out before they started using phscys, psychedelics simply enhance your character and make characteristics stronger.
I'd assume frequent extremely high doses due to the abundancy at the time could have fucked em up.. also while having no real mind-expansive like motives with the stuff.. irresponsibility.. losses of interests in other hobbies through the use of drugs.. Who knows. They might not even be dumb, just old and withering. But as they say, moderation is key.
nothing wrong with being a burn-out, sometimes you have an endless supply and get carried away and it will space you out for a while. if you eat way too much all together you can burn out chunks of memory or have massive changes or splits to personality. It can make you slow down a little bit, make you see things like visual snow, and other distortions, especially around lights or straight lines. Also can cause some people to have knarley random fits of anxiety, loss of sense of reality and ego death. the only cure: benzo's and beer. a lotta old timers I see that can barley put a sentence together are heroin addicts.