LSD as a way to help addiction???

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by ImjustMike, May 27, 2008.

  1. ImjustMike

    ImjustMike Member

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    Hey i am new to this forum and i am really interested in psycheldelics, my mind, and the power that it actually has. I used to use heroine quite frequently and it was a really bad thing, it took a lot away from me including friends and almost my family. I experimented with LSD before and it was fun and cool and I got 'messed up'. However, i recently began being able to aquire it whenever i wanted to and I started seeing the potential it has to help people in profound ways. The point being, I was forced to stop using heroin becuase it got out of control, it was a very hard thing to do but after i used LSD and really took in what was going on i felt this feeling that i still do today of being free and happy and not needing that addicting drug. People I talk to are like oh yeah your replacing one drug with another but i dont think that LSD and heroin have any correlation at all...i feel one is called a 'drug' and one is a 'drug'. Anyways to not ramble anymore anyone else found the healing effects of LSD in this way?
     
  2. laRueda<3aCïd

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    "LSD is not considered to be an addicting drug because it does not produce compulsive drug-seeking behavior like cocaine, amphetamines, heroin, alcohol, or nicotine do."

    Im not sure about the Acid that gets around nowadays but if your taking LSD close to the original synthesis then I think replacing your desires for smack with acid is all good, especially if you think you have quit heroin.

    About its healing powers, Im not to sure of. I havent had the chance to have a good trip yet but im sure it would be mind blowing.
     
  3. ImjustMike

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    i didnt mean healing in the sense of spirituality i meant as the literal sense in brain chemistry. I am currently reading DMT: the spirit molecule (great book for those who havent read it) and it mentions the work that scientists did that had amazingly successful results and i quote
    "dozens of scientific articles descibed remarkable success in helping previously untreatable patients suffering from Obsessions and compulsions, post-traumatic stress, eating disorders, anxiety, depression, alcoholism, and heroin dependence."
    Now i felt that after i did the acid and then i read in the book that it actually has helped people. I didnt know if i mis-read it or maybe there are other people out there that had the same experience.
     
  4. burnabowl

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    yeah lsd definitely can heal in a neurological sense. on a cellular level, the brain is getting reprogrammed, reset, rewired, whatever you want to call it.I don't really know the terminology for what happens but the synaptic processes get an overhaul. you can probably tell us more from the reading you're doing; keep it up!
     
  5. natebozung535

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    I know this isn't exactly related to this topic but, LSD helped me trim down my cigarette habit, it's just I was smoking one once while tripping and it made me think how nasty it is. I think LSD can help with addictions, just differently than other things like ibogaine or such.
     
  6. ImjustMike

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    hey thanks burnabowl the book is a really good insight into the actual work that was done with lsd and other psychedelics. From what i read the work they were doing was something that shaped things that came to be today. The author reports that his time in college out of 4 years 2 lectures involved the use of psychedelic substances however 30 years prior this was the growth in the psychiatric world. it all ended becuase media got a hold of people having bad trips etc. (im sure theres more reasons im saying from what ive read) The entire community turned their backs on the work scientists did with these substances and its a damn shame becuase who knows the kind of advancments we could have made if they got more time to study on human volunteers.

    EDIT: nate thats very interesting you say that i have experienced a decline in my need to have a cigarette as well. i used to smoke probaly 2 packs in a weekend not alot maybe by some standards but now a pack lasts me at least a week and a half. sometimes i dont even really want to have one.
    (btw this is a friendly thread, i set the scene lets see where it can go )
     
  7. burnabowl

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    I never had a real propensity to binge on anything really, but after my amazing trip experiences have changed my perspective on all other drugs and alcohol. If you look at the lsd/psychedelic experience as not a drug encounter, but a rebirthing of sorts, or spiritual cleansing, it completely changes your frame of reference. Now I'll drink some alcohol and it will be fun, but the new person I became after tripping feels worse than I would otherwise the next day, as if I felt much better sober than I did pre-lsd. In a sense, I was at a higher level from which to fall through drinking, etc. than where I had been before lsd. The end result of drinking isn't different itself, but seems vastly different because of where I was before. Hard to explain, but I think you get it.

    I used to think very highly of oxys, but after glimpsing into the eternities on acid I don't favor them nearly as much anymore. Same thing with alcohol; if I get a bit burned-out on oxys, i see myself as having descended much farther than I would have otherwise because of my new soul and knowledge. I'm just as resilient, and can reinstate my more exalted point of reference and awareness afterwards.

    the entheogenic drugs are not really drugs in the usual sense. you can get away with using them for recreational reasons, but they can open up so much more to those who want it, who want to understand where they fit in the universe. A new attitude is not guaranteed with a trip of that nature, but if you are ready for it and are willing to do what it takes, there's no better sacrament available to us than a psychedelic.

    Some conservative folks object to using a drug to aid in spiritual transcendence, comparing it to taking a helicopter to the top of the mountain when you're supposed to hike up it. My response to them is, "while you and your friends are camping out halfway up the summit (as in a church), I'm up at the top seeing heaven." if the key fits, turn it. You still hike up the mountain with the drug, but you do it faster. Lucy forces you to. Peace to everyone!
     
  8. ImjustMike

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    i will not write anything after that. that was beautiful.
     
  9. laRueda<3aCïd

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    yeah great post. ima quote you on the mountain metaphor if my shrink ever tells me that.
     
  10. Shapeshifter

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    Its not that LSD is helping you quit something, it is helping you DECIDE to stop something, but to trully and sicerely decide what you want and what you don't want and to stick with your decision. And all of that happening because you finally "see your place in the universe" (as burnabowl said), because you start loving yourself and others and now you see other stuff harming your body and obviously mind and you want to stop that. You know finally that no matter who you are, you are equally important as others in this chain, and chain missing one ring is not the chain any more.
    Finally you start seeing benefits of helthy living and all those things that you don't feel ok with, you DECIDE to stop doing them.

    Nice post burnabowl by the way!
     
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