So Much Work ...

absolutely. love wouldn't be possible without ego, since love wouldn't be possible without the feeling of separation, and ego is what we have as a natural result of separation. I just don't know how easily a newcomer to the forums will ascertain these things. I s'pose i'm a bit of a fascist when it comes to first impressions. welcome, psychonaut. it''s true; most of what people say on the acid forum comes from love.

 

BUT dont forget the blind ignorance, there is tons of that around here...lol

good thing is that the truth has an obvious ring to it. (well, obvious to some)

 

yeah I know. what I mean, without deeming ignorant anyone in specific, is that even the efforts of the ignorant are fuelled by love. love of what is variable, often it's not love to one another; but it is the fuel.

 

I want to thank everybody for your kind words and thoughts. Already in just a few days the community has shared so much love and insight with me. It is always good to talk and hear the opinions of good people. Much Love!

 

Dang! So that's where that thing came from!

Ego's will clash. Everyone thinks they're coming from the Highest Good, and the Highest-Good sometimes appears to force-feeding Democracy.

 

the higher good I alluded to is not exclusive to my opinion it's something that most everyone on the acid forums agrees on and it's pretty basic; it's the simple unity that comes from accepting others as equals. the posters immediately following the OP seemed haughty, as if they were offended at the thought of learning anything from a new member. they may not have intended it, but it was there in some measure.

 

2000 years after Jesus and Spirit still kills thru ad hominem attack. What can we learn?

 

ad hominem? you can't be serious. objectivity and "evidence" is not applicable in this situation. any "argument" on my part is relative to collective philosophies of the regular posters on these forums. there is no absolute frame of reference; it was only concerning the applied ethics of those who regularly proclaim those ethics.

you're going to have a hard time legitimizing an ad hominem accusation in the acid forum, where rational perception and conventional practice of logic are constantly in question as a frame of reference for anything

 

Yeah, The voices have got me paranoid and seeing ad hominem attacks everywhere.

 

"He hears voices! He's a fag! He's a negro! He's a rapist! He has a swastika in his signature! He's a government employee!"< These are examples of the manipulation of policy thru Ad Hominem attacks. Spirit has a vested interst in keeping people stupid.

Can anyone guess the adhominem attack used to incite ridicule and the death of Jesus?

"He calls Himself 'The Son Of God'. He's 'The King Of The Jews'!LOLROTFALMAO!!!"
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A job for a rational person is to find a compassionate sentence for the conspirators.

any suggestions?

Is it inhumane to place them in a terrarium untill they figure things out for themselves?

 

Whats with the whole ego thing. I mean obviously he wanted a response if he posted this, so what would you expect. I usually don't go and post on hipforums if I'm tripping (and hence, have lost my ego). Basically, all the OP said was he needs to refine what he has learned, and to help him do that he will put LSD in his brain. The only "work" to be done is integrating his trips into normal everyday life, which cannot be done if a new spiritual journey has begun. *drunk

 

it wasn't so much the words used, it was the underlying pride in the initial responses. what I meant by ego was it seemd like there were some who felt they were being told what's up by a new member, and at some level were offended, responding with cynicism and doubt. rereading your post, meatwagon, I saw that I can exclude you from this accusation ( but I wouldn't mind it if you elaborated on: "once you have a breakthrough lsd experience there is nothing to learn from it").

whether or not there is any work to be done or anything to learn, it seemed like a few were giving off the impression that it's all been done before, there's nothing new, and who are you to tell us otherwise. i'm sure it wasn't deliberate, and i'm sure they had good intentions. I know there's no requirements for how a person posts. you guys were stating your observations, I was stating mine. I only want people to be aware of the non-semantic energy they send out.

 

it has all been done before but it has never been done like i will do it

 

It just seems like the less I do LSD, the more I benefit from it. Sometimes after I have tripped, I realize it was completely unnecessary, but I do it anyways because I feel I missed something from previous trips. But its all generally the same for me every time.

 

thanks, meat. I can put what you said into context now. also thanks to our friend 3xi, that's a good way to end that point. peace to everyone

 

What a magnificent example of a group welcome to Psychonaut420. Let's do it again sometime.

(typo?)
Isn't it unusual to have a "series" of trips during a 3 day period?

 

i understand what you are going through.

i have been in the same shoes (sort of) when i was tripping too much everything lost its magic. moderation is key.

BUT everyday of life should be a new adventure with new lessons and refined ideas and perspectives. although sometimes the change is very subtle i manage to progress with every day of my life as i continue to grow and learn. lsd only amplifies this effect for me as it provides a very clear understanding of the lessons that i have been struggling to learn.

if you are not getting anything from your trips you are doing something wrong, im sure we all do it at some point. maybe you are giving too much credit to the drug, it is you who has to take it upon himself to make something out of himself in everyday life and every acid trip. you cant take lsd and expect that the drug has some sort of trip in store for you. lsd just opens the door, it is you that must walk through it.

no offence but if you think you have learned all that lsd can show you then you think you know it all and sorry but as many would agree you would have to be crazy to think you have it all figured out.

 

I'm not saying I have it all figured out (I never will), I just have very little room for advancement. I don't do it nearly as much as I used to, and the doses are lower. I still "get something" out of good trips, just good trips are not consistent for me. Everything I have planned before taking LSD always has and always will go haywire.

When I do get something out of my trip, its usually menial or I have learned it before and its just refreshed in my memory. My last trip I definitely learned to appreciate myself and others around me (although I feel this way alot after tripping).

 

I would definitely say there is more work to be done..we need to start bringing the things we learn on these adventures into our everyday lives..incorporating love into everything we do..as well as "turning people on" and continuing to raise our collective consciousness.

 

3xi, ive been around these forums and i kno a lot of ppl hate on u and what u have to say and ive seen ur responses and how much its gotta frustrate you when someone tells u ur "opinion" is wrong....y do u cut down soaringeagle right away? his opinion is just as important to everyone as urs and imo its up to the OP to discern who they want to listen to...no disrespect man, just wanted to say

i agree ALL things in moderation, however, i have had 3 day "series" of tripping on 2ce and it turned out to be more recreational than beneficial, fun sometimes, but really not a wise use of what i had....so id say trip when ur ready, i think its fun/interesting to go into a trip w/ questions i want to try to answer, and usually take at least a day devoted to reflection and integration of the trip....

good luck and happy tripping