fuck the united nations..

Right, but that wasnt the point, the point is, the USA is not the only source of funding for the U.N., which HHB seems to think.

 

Gravity - if you want to debate then you're going to have to become a little more informed. I am not going to argue with someone whose only knowledge of the subject comes from a five minute Google search.

 

Ask any Marine who has worked side by side with UN soldiers. They are so bureaucratic and cold blooded that they will Knowingly let your entire platoon walk into a mine field then sit and watch American soldiers die as they await orders whether to provide the aid that is at their disposal. This isn't a headline scenario like roasting people or raping children. The UN engages in this kind of inhuman apathy as standard operating procedure everyday. I don't have to read a paper or search google for these results. they're on the tip of every serviceman's tongue who's seen action with these guys that i know.

 

Compared with your 'extensive' youtube education. Ooh and don't forget those books you shell out for with rather nice pictures of people shaking hands.

Evil, I doubt (though I have yet to meet anyone who has served with UN troops) that that is the case across the board. The UN troops have been negligently apathetic in the past, but that is just as much a problem with the nations supplying those troops. There is a need to reform the peacekeepers, not run away to the mountains and shirk all international responsibilities.

 

So, you provide a link "from 05" proving the U.N. can and does exist "as it does now" without US funding.

Did i miss something in 05-06? did the U.N. cease all missions or was it business as usual?

 

But he wasn't a war criminal.

Why do you constantly lie?

 

He served Hitler and the Nazi regime. He was an intelligence officer during WW II for the Nazis. He was/is a Nazi.

 

Yes but you called him a war criminal. Why did you lie about that?

 

I didn't lie. He is a war criminal. He was even deemed a war criminal by, ironically, the United Nations War Crimes Commission in 1948. He was simply never brought to trial.

From the International Herald Tribune, June 14, 2007

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/14/europe/waldheim.php

Your idol George W. Bush is also a war criminal (and mass-murdering psychopath). He may not have been tried and convicted, but he is still a war criminal and is seen as being one by millions of people around the world.

 

The UN does not pay its way in New York City.
The news today had a story about The UN owing NYC for rental monies for off-site functions.
The diplos don't pay thier parking tickets. They skip out on criminal charges. To get a UN water bill paid a major theater. I'll bet they pay no rent on that huge building. Add rent free to that 22% contribution.

 

I agree, fuck the U.N.

that is all.

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=18&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

 

No, because that building (and the land it sits on) was given to the UN by David Rockefeller.

 

Well what a surprise, you say he was deemed a war criminal and then back it up by providing a link that... doesn't show he was deemed a war criminal.

It says alleged. And he was investigated, in the 1980s, by a committee of historians, after a scandal about his past broke out. The committee concluded that he had not committed any war crimes.

You are always sneering at people for not being as knowledgeable as you, yet you get busted lying all the time. If your arguments are so strong, why do you need to constantly lie to back them up?

 

Even Simon Wiesenthal (the famous Nazi Hunter) defended him:

(In a letter to The Forward in 15th October 1993)

The people from the World Jewish Congress, who were so committed to the Waldheim case, find it difficult to accept the results of the international commission of historians. This commission, which was formed at my instigation in Vienna, had come to the conclusion that Mr. Waldheim knew about the wartime crimes in the Balkans but that he was not personally involved in these. A similar judgment was pronounced by a committee that examined the documents about Mr. Waldheim on Thames Television in London. The committee included some of the most respected jurists; the former director of the Office of Special Investigations, Alan Ryan, functioned as prosecutor. This group, too, concluded that there is no 'case' against Mr. Waldheim.

 

Since your reading comprehension skills apparently are not that good, I will quote again the paragraph from that article in which you ignored.

He was a suspected war criminal subject to trial. He never went to trial. Someone can murder 100 people and not go to trial and never officially be called a murderer. That doesn't mean they're not still a murderer. A committee of government-commissioned historians is not the same as being tried for something in a court, though I am sure they would have let him off in that instance, too.

It makes sense Waldheim was let go, as he was one of them and was of service to their agenda. And why would they want to further tarnish the UN's image by having to admit they had a Nazi war criminal serving as their former Secretary-General?

It's people like you who will also deny that Operation Paperclip ever existed, which literally gave hundreds of Nazi war criminals a free pass by bringing them into this country. Many of them played an integral role in the creation of NASA and the CIA, as well as the MK-Ultra mind control experiments, which you will probably claim never existed.

 

he's right hiptastic, he said the guy was a war criminal, not that he was a convicted war criminal...

 

No you dunce, you are quoting what was happening in 1948. I am talking about what happened in the 1980s, when he WAS investigated. They found that he wasn't a war criminal. Its not a simple matter of flippantly rejecting all the historians work and the work of all the other people who looked into his past and saying "well I've got nothing, but I'm just going to assume its true". OH wait... in your world, it is that simple.

What do you think alleged means? Rat alleges something he cannot back up. He does it all the time.

Deemed a war criminal? He was suspected of being a war criminal. And as I have shown, he was eventually investigated and found not to be.

 

Hiptastic aka Pepik aka Pointbreak, and all the other names he was banned under.

 

lol, really?

How does he keep getting banned?

How can you tell it's the same guy?