e is :) but the come down

i had the best time on e on friday. it felt so amazing and my two favorite parts about it were danicing to a great band (roots of creation) and kaying down on the grass with my sleeping bag and dom. it was such a great feeling and i felt loose and free and insanely happy as nothing went wrong. the only thing that was weird was the come down. i couldnt sleep that well. any tips?

 

whenever you do X, it's basically guaranteed that you are going to see the sun rise.

it's an amphetamine, and probably has some other upper shit mixed in with it. sleeping is pretty much out of the question.

 

yah its a strong amphetamine so its gonna make u stay awake for a while. as for a tip i dont really have any cause ive never taken any downers with x so i dont know if thats a dangerous combination or not but it seems like it might b

 

weeds weeds weeds is what we all needs needs

 

and xanax....

 

On good X sleep isn't too hard to come by about 8 hours into it, but with MOST of the X around you might as well plan on staying up for a while ... nothing but speed these days.

 

Speak for yourself..
I've seen friends gurn their tits off for hours on end, then beginning to sledge.. a few joints later and they've got their heads down before sunrise.

 

sounds like some shitty ass rolls.

 

Well in all fairness, the quality of 'em in the UK have gone to shit..

Then again yours could be amphetamine based.

 

thats why i hate e... even pure mdma powder is the same. n even if u get to sleep, ur not fully asleep, ur kinda awake and asleep at the same time. es comedown is the worst of all to me.

 

MDMA itself is a methamphetamine isn't it?

and MDA is an amphetamine right?

 

I dont find it so bad.


actually I sort of like it. It leaves me "glowing" a little bit, if you know what I mean.

 

i know what u mean, when i start comin down n i smoke weed, it gets so trippy, the colors, motion n all, n u feel so relaxed like ur on an opiate or sumthin, n u keep gettin this orgasmic feeling in ur back. however if u concentrate u realise that ur body is tired but ur mind is fully awake, n the orgasmic feeling slowly turns into back pain. i really feel like my mind had been fucked up after an e trip, like really fucked up. i stopped doin it, its just me though, some people have really smooth comedowns, not me though.

 

i've never had a real bad comedown on mdma

but you should try molly instead of pills.
i never have had a problem sleeping on molly after about four hours. the thing that keeps you up for eight hours in pills is the meth and the speed, not the mdma. molly by itself is really hella chill.

 

i always do mollys bro... i get the powder n cap it.

 

i'm on a comedown this morning and it's not bad at all. it's even comparable to the afterglow of a good lsd trip. the fire of love still churns in my core.the only e hangover i've had is when I rolled twice in a weekend. I was depressed for 2 days after it. the other few times i've rolled I don't remember any negative comedown at all. having e last night made me remember people who do get a negative comedown. people I used to roll with would start crashing and saying they're coming down and don't feel good and want to go to bed but can't, and it would always surprise me, "what? we're supposed to feel shitty right now?" i'd still be grooving on something or dancing. I guess I would start feeling a bit off, but it's just a matter of reconnecting somehow, of fixating on things, on staying occupied. with e you notice that you are merely a link in a huge system of conduits, and when your mind isn't plugged into it it feels bad, but you can flip anything that comes and plug yourself back in.

 

exactly. you summed it up very nicely. I too, find that the afterglow of X is comparable to LSD, just not as strong or permanent.

 

Thats a great way to put it I think the 'comedown' is 1/2 psychological, really. I always ride it like a wave, and so when you run into the shore you are still gliding until you slick up on the sand..to a nice soft landing, instead of plowing headfirst into the muck 10 feet away.

So I've only had one bad comedown, but that was my own fault for combining stuff with the MDMA that I shouldn't have.

You know its funny.. people always focus on kids and poor people doing drugs to 'escape'. This, while some very real numbers show that middle class and up, over 30 people consume more than 60% of illegal drugs.

Its tough to bust an otherwise upstanding person though, so we get this biased picture of the whole thing from LE.

Sorry.. a bit of ftopic

 

Nope. Neither is an amphetamine. They are "amphetamine LIKE" in their properties, but they are not amphetamines.

Also, there is NO SUCH THING as "speed based" or "heroin based" ecstasy, assuming we all agree that "Ecstasy" = MDMA. These are trade terms introduced by the drug suppliers to confuse people, or perhaps they don't even know the facts themselves.

MDMA has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with heroin. Nothing. Nada. Heroin comes from processing opium, which comes from the poppy plant. MDMA comes from (usually) Safrole, the essential fraction of sassafras, camphor oil, etc. They are totally, completely different. They are as different as pork and lemons are different. It's not even possible to get to MDMA through opiods.

If a supplier uses "speed based" or "heroin based" as terms, he doesn't know what he is talking about. Apologies to the people here who do use those terms.. you should know.. they are totally bullshit, and bear no resemblance to reality.

There is a single relationship to amp/meth and MDA/MDMA. In the processing, if you use P2P you get amp/meth. if you use MDP2P you get MDA/MDMA. Same process, but different starting materials. So, consider, if you have a nice slab of steak, and a nice slab of fish, and you fry them both, is the end result the same? Nope.

It's that MD bit that makes it all totally different, biologically.

Accept no substitutes!! And try to educate people about this! There is so much bullshit flying around it's hard to keep track sometimes.

 

navajas, all I can say is, you've never had real or more pure MDMA ecstasy. With the real and good stuff, you feel like you're in heaven. Every touch feels like pure bliss. It is a 4 hour orgasm, better than sex. And I am always able to sleep when it's over. You've probably only taken the speedy shit that is out nowadays, and that stuff sucks and it definitely will keep you up all night and probably the next day too. And you feel like you're in hell. It probably has about 1% MDMA (so the test kit will say it's real) and 99% speed. I am so fucking pissed!!! Where's the real stuff anymore????? Everybody needs to stop buying this shit and demand the real stuff!!