Americas BIGGEST problem,ILLEGAL ALIENS!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by forrealz, May 31, 2008.

  1. sethm13

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    Illegal immigrants are far from being America's biggest problem. They come over here to start new lives, just like all of our families came for. These immigrants have just as much right to live here as we do. They do the dirty work that wouldn't get done if it was left up to us. And they do it for a fraction of the pay that a lot of people get for sitting in an office day after day.

    America has no biggest problem. It's faced with several different problems. However, the biggest problem is probably that of money. Money leads to greed, which leads to dispute, which leads to anger and hatred. People work crappy jobs that they hate, so that they can buy crap that they don't really need at all. And these unwanted jobs cost us much more then they're worth. They take away the time that we will never get back, no matter how rich we are. They take away time that we could be spending with family and friends, or meeting new people. They destroy the love of the world that we are all instilled with. I agree that money needs to be in place to give people something to kind of work towards, yet we need to realize that there is more to life then it.

    And when you think about it, one of the major reasons that we don't want these immigrants in our country is the fact that they are taking 'our' money, and 'our' jobs, whilst on 'our' land.

    So, before we blame the immigrants for being so problematic, we need to take a look at ourselves and our priorities.
     
  2. forrealz

    forrealz Banned

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    Nothing personal 'seth,but you said illegal immigrants have same rights to be in America as its legal citizens.That absurd and totally false.Again no one is talking about LEGAL immigrants,and the US has the most liberal policy for legal immigrants in the world.As far as illegal immigrants if most of them are not deported within the next 5 years the US will be one of the worlds lowest ranked nations in everything,no better than a third world country.
     
  3. sethm13

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    No. I didn't mean that they should have the all the rights we do. They should however be treated with respect. Instead of trying to keep them out of our country, we need to give them a reason to stay in their own country. Really, we're gonna spend more money searching out each and every one of the immigrants then we are attempting to give the economy of Mexico a boost, maybe start buying a few more products from them, instead of buying all of our imports from China.

    I completely agree with you forrealz, the immigrants need to go through the official process of becoming a legal citizen, and yes, they should do whatever they can to find work and home in their native country, but if that becomes something that isn't an option, we need to allow them to stay here temporarily until things get better. Maybe allow them 2 months in the U.S. or something before they get kicked out of the country or something along those lines.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The fact is, they are using illegal immigrants, and the are using them against the citizens of the US. They want to lower the wages and bring in people who are dependent on the system so they can more quickly bring us down into a third world police state. It has nothing to do with helping these people. They are exploiting these people for their own agenda. They want to erase the borders completely, and they always start by allowing an influx of people who cannot easily assimilate into the country. It's likely the illegals will be used as the first test subjects for FEMA's internment program as well.
     
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    The pathetic thing is, that's a possibility. It's really sad that the U.S. government does this stuff, and can completely disregard the fact that it's real humans that they are affecting, in order have just a little bit more money to roll around in. Yes. I agree with you guys that we need to end illegal immigration, but still, until then, we need to remember that the immigrants are people, just like us, and that they work just as hard for their money as we do, and a lot of the time, harder then we do.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Very true. The true enemy are those that promote their entrance to this country illegally...the employers. Let's focus the blame where it truly lies. If illegal immigration is the US's biggest problem then let's reasonably look at the cause and source of the problem and deal with it like you do an epidemic. You root out the causitive agent. Deal with that and you don't need fences or border agents.

    Why turn your anger and hatred towards those that are viewed as a commodity by the people in power in the US and Mexico. Why not focus that outrage on those that have created the problem. I've ask countless times why the population of Mexico a huge country rich in natural resources can NOT provide for it's own population?
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    One of the first things Clinton did after the passage of NAFTA, was bail out Mexico.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE7DE1038F931A35757C0A963958260

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n1_v12/ai_17975756/pg_4

    What sort of return did the US taxpayers get on their investment? Did NAFTA or our bailout stem illegal immigration? If anything illegal immigration has increased.

    All most people remember about Clinton's administration is that the economy boomed or seemed to, but Clinton had nothing to do with that it was the IT Bubble, and I think most of us remember how that ended.

    http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/mexico_naftaimpact.html
     
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