why do people bug about heroin and not oxycontin?

Okay, that first point I did misinterpret, that was last night and i did have a several beers. Thats my fault. But that's just the assumption part, read the rest. Your arguing that personal choices have nothing to do with addiction and such.. "EVERYONE is given choices, that has SHITE to do with this conversation, son." I was saying the complete opposite. What the fuck do you mean flip flopping them?

 

You keep reneging your points to fit into others even though at the beginning they are completely opposite. Its very strange to me. One minute you say drugs kill people, then you say no..its the human beings choice because we have free will after someone psychologically dissected you, I guess its to save yourself from self perceived humiliation. I dont know. Thats just my uneducated junkie psychoanalysis. ^_^

 

My only insecurities are that my mom will have to keep working her ass off for minimum wage to feed my poor family and my little brothers will have no one to look upto and end up in jail like I'v seen happen. How the fuck am I projecting that onto any of you? If you dont have to worry about that then you're a lucky son of a bitch. Either you already got money, or you dont got family you love or your family doesnt love you. Probably for a good reason if the latter.

 

OMG what is so hard to understand about the words that Im typing? this isnt differential calculus! Drugs kill people, because of their dumb decisions! WTF is so "strange" about that???

LMAO, literally!

How come I could use drugs and not die? Because Im not a fucking dumbass

 

Oh ...My...God. I think I could have a better conversation with a turd. Ill go do that now. Dude, for getting so angry about me "making an assumption" that I stated was a moronic assumption, you sure do throw em out there like fuckin tennis balls or something, lol.

Heroin addicts are scum
So and so has no aspirations
So and so doesnt have a good job
If so and so has no family that loves them, its probably for a good reason.

Why the fuck are you so interested in me? You wanna fuck? If not, then stop fuckin worrying about it.

 

LOL a bit ostentatious there. yes, look it up. haha

I'm not talking about you personally here:

I said anyone with an addiction that they let defat their purpose in life is practically next to scum.

And no I dont wanna fuck, but if that's you in your sig pic than you got some pretty eyes

 

Ever heard of a double negative? are you honestly saying that its a lack of will power that makes me content with what Ive got? Dude, I didnt grow up in the 'hood. I grew up in a place were people teach their kids respect for themselves and the community. I dont give a good gad damn if your kid brother goes off and shoots dope, Im watching out for my ass.

I got one last thing to say, and then Im washing my hands of this. Junk is junk, doesnt matter what it is. when I was a kid it was Legos, tv and sugar. For some people its Jesus and Taco Bell. Everyone has their vice. Heroin is vilified by society at large as being the cause for the moral corruption of society, when the numbers clearly show that "harmless" vices are far more destructive. I think video games are desensitizing children towards violence, but I would never propose a ban on them. Your line of thinking is responsible for totalitarianism, mine democracy. Yours Nazis, mine freedom. Live and let Live.

 

Yep. Thats me in my signature.

 

hey whas good I think Im gonna be in nashville this summer lol ;P

lol my bad that took so long, I was watching a movie. OMG have you ever seen Strange Wilderness? That shit was HILARIOUS. I nearly cried like 5 times during that shit, and I think i worked out my abs from laughing so hard. I highly recommend it!

 

Nope. Im way behind on the movie thing. Just recently started watching them, really. Never got into movies too much. I just now saw Superbad. I didnt really know how great movies were until recently. Watched "Million Dollar Baby" last night.

 

My 2 cents, take it or leave it. I don't know why people start using heroin in the first place, knowing how addictive it is. I had a high school friend who died from heroin overdose, and it was a waste, he was such a nice guy. Not scum, just messed up emotionally. I have done some drugs in my life, mostly speed for fun, long time ago now. I somewhat regret it, but was young and silly. Although I was always sure to only do it ocassionally, when going out. Never wanted to get into it too far. To me it is about choice, and self-control. You can't blame it on others, your upbringing. I went to an expensive, elite and very strict Catholic school, still had lots of kids selling drugs there.

 

LOL WTF JUST HAPPENED? i wasn't on here for 2 days and this thread wound up with like 70 extra post's and like 4 or 5 arguments between people....wow

anyway, Kilo, have you ever heard the expression "guns dont kill people, people kill people"? thats what norcal's saying, its not the gun, but the person who pulls the trigger.

to the girl whos been smoking tar for 3 years, that seems to be the typical route, starting with oxy untill its not around or the tolerance becomes too high...

to the guy who thinks he knows shit about drugs because he studies them in school...wow you're dumb, do you know what the whole point of a fucking "lab" in school is? it's to get hands on practice with things,,,what good is a chemist who can read a recipe but has never synthed anything?...what good is a drug conseuler who's never done drugs? Im sure your way to anal to go out there and try some of the things that supernatural being above us has left on this planet, or the things we derived from them, but maybe youd understand drug addiction, and recreational use a little better, and the differences between them.

to i think shoc? and anyone else who said theyve seen ppl go down the drain soo quickly, i live in a suburban white town on long island...seeing multiple people with track marks on there fucking hands becuase there veins in there arm collapsed from shooting so much at 17 was fucking whacked...17 year old kids injecting heroin, driving into the city to buy dope..than getting arrested or claiming they got arrested and stealing whoever gave them money for a bundles' dope(both im sure). I have 2 friends on probation for burglary(robbing a person at knifepoint?) because they were fiending for heroin, and another 2 in prison for armed robery(robbing a "STORE" at knife point(lol robbing a store with a knife???)) fiending for crack and heroin,,, its just fucking crazy how quickly some people just crash after falling in love with their drug(s)...then again i know people who have done more drugs than the people above and still do and are perfectly fine....its just fucking crazy how life really works...its a fucking trip in itself.

can anyone explain wtf a collapsed vein means? like how it physically works not just "when you shoot to much and cant shoot in that vein anymore"?

 

Cant answer your question but, I shot in my hands first off....easier for me to hit.

I do not shoot up anymore, however. Much easier to go down a horrid route that way, in my opinion..just from what ive seen. There are exceptions though. As always.

 

a collapsed Vein happens from using the same vein to much its builds up to much scare tissue then collapses in on its self which means you can't hit it any more !!! Some of the old time Junkies at my methaonde clinic and groups and rehabs I have been to have them from head to toe !!!!

 

yuckkyyyyyyy. sounds scary.

 

Thats why its so dam important to change the spot where you shot form time to time. I always switch off from my hand to my arm to my upper Arm. Back in the day when I was doing about a bundle a few of my veins stopped working but I left them alone so they would not collapse. Now sence I only shoot up maybe ounce a month I can hit myself with my eyes closed and still get a stream of blood. anyways I am sitting hear freaking out I am going into the Bronx today to get a few bundles and I hate that feeling every time before I go, Shit a few years ago I would take that trip almost daily and not even think twice about it. Now I go threw every bad thing in my head that could happen. I really don't feel like paying $20 a bag up hear when I can get 10 bags in New York for the price of 3 or 4 up Hear,but I just might do it so I don't have to take that fucking trip into the Bronx that I hate so dam much. I have to idea what I am going to do all I know is its 6am and I want to leave early on the train if I am going into the city. I also don't want my girl to know eather I took the day off to go into the city but told her I have a meeting at work, So If I am going to go I better Go. I hope the fucking bags of dope are slaming at the spot !!! Peace wish my ass luck people !!! I am going to pop a xanex to calm my ass down.

PS- Dam nirmalamaya you are up early today you are a hour behind east coast time right !!! whats is it 5 am there ?

PSS- also nirmalamaya you get black Tar in Tennesse I would of thought It was powder Herion down there ??

 

same

 

Man I stay up a lot because towards the end of the night I get hella sick but like..last night I smoked a big "bag" and it kicked my ass around 5 or 6 am and I passed out like a baby..just woke up, about to start smoking a small 20 and then tomorrow im buying one gram..and..:sniff: im gonna try to stop. Yall wish me luck.

Its black tar allll the way down here in ol tennessee. Look up "Operation Gold Rush." I got caught up in that while ago. No fun. Fuck em.

And im not afraid of needles. Ive had more needles going into my body in some kinda way. I have two tattoos and ive had countless piercings. I guess you could say...I like needles. Just dont stick em into your god damn veinslbhdkldjwhldhbli. Ok. Ill admit, even thinking about myself shooting myself up...its hard..but I did it...and it was entirely too easy dude. Way too easy. Scarily simple. Bad. Shame. Bad.

 

using needles is scary. fuck THAT. anyways, nirma.. if you do heroin everyday, doesnt matter if you smoke it, snort it, bang it, etc., you're life will not remain as happy go lucky as you think. period. its pretty much a guarantee, like how you say we're all gonna die.

How you say you wanna try to stop. good luck (not in any way sarcastic). But its not even about quiting, its about controlling yourself. If you're using everyday, try to go to using every other day, than every couple of days, and see if you can make it to once a week. Once you achieve that, you're doing good and you can go from there.

 

doin heroin everyday to me (n nobody is entitled to my opinion, people r free to do whatever they want) is a fucked up road. when i used to do heroin, i used to do it once every week, n its wasnt no fucked up black tar, its was pure no4... i stayed doin it for 4 months. i didnt build a tolerance, i didnt get addicted n i never ODed. Its been more than a year now n I havent touched it, not for any particular reason just got bored, however this summer i feel like fuckin with it again. there r recreational heroin users n im one of them. btw nirma i have a question for u, u tried the spike, alotta guys say after u shoot, u start to feel like smoking n snorting dnt do shit. did u stop usin the spike cuz u got scared of ruinin ur life, or do u really like smoking more? n if the answer is yes why? btw i shot h once, n it was the nicest thing ive ever done in my life, i really respected that high, n thought of it as sumthin amazing, that should only be done once, if ur lucky enough to live after a shot, then u gotta appreciate that n be satisfied with the high u got forever. my next experiment is shooting a speedball, n when im ready, trust me itll only be once, i either die, or live satisfied forever for experiencing the ultimate high, n never do it again, n hope that their is heaven for ill do it forever after i die. btw i sky dived once, i want it all, ill do anything once, thats why im livin, fuck livin in a cuckoon, n im ready for whatever, here I say it infront of you all, no drug will ever ruin my life or control me, say whatever u want, call me a narcissist, laugh at me, consider me young n naive, whatever, i knw myself better than yall, n all the guys that got hooked when they thought they were untouchable, these guys didnt knw shit about themselves, I DO!!!