John Kerry beat the dog crap out of boy George on the debates. Kerry was focused on the main issue of National Security while boy George was scattered and unorganized as usual. Since the U.S. Supreme Court appointed boy George President: Record Clinton budget surpluses have turned into record Bush budget deficits. http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ Bush ignored the Clinton administration and Richard Clark warnings of Osama bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S. until it was too late. http://www.bartcop.com/he-knew-failure.jpg North Korea has developed NUCLEAR Weapons of Mass Destruction. Iraq was found to not have Weapons of Mass Destruction. More than 1000 U.S. military personnel have been killed in an oil invasion that was not necessary, and over 200,000 military personnel have been discharged because of disabilities caused by the Iraq war. http://icasualties.org/oif/ Even more civilians have been killed or wounded in a country that DID NOT ATTACK US. http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm Al Qaeda, the real enemy, has grown stronger and is recruiting more than ever. http://www.bartcop.com/aq-support.jpg The Economy has gotten worse. Millions of jobs have been lost. The middle class has shrank by 1.3 million middle class Americans who have slipped below the poverty level. And all boy George has promised is MORE OF THE SAME. ************************************************* Vote for John Kerry. America can do better. Clinton proved that. http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html *************************************************
So we should have attacked sooner? Hrmm, I thought you didn't support the war. Now you are chastising him for not doing it sooner. Stop acting like your wanna be president, take off your flip flops, and pick a side. Either bitch and complain about him going to war or not. Don't bitch about the war and then say Bush didn't act fast enough. Guess what, they would have done that anyways. Wrong again, there have been stock piles found, do your research. Over 70,000 people died in 2 days for the liberation of france...and they still think it was worth it. As for the injuries and disabilities, it will happen anyway. I don't see you lobying to remove liquor off our store shelves to stop the deaths caused by drunk driving. I don't see you lobying to get better funding for outreach organizations to stop teen suicidal death rates. As a matter of fact, I don't see you doing anything but saying that the Iraqi people don't deserve freedom. That's all I hear from you.
Whatever yer political persuasion, the debate was mediocre at best. With all the retarded restrictions, and the fact that all the cantidates really did was rattle off their campaign speaches, I really wasn't impressed. 'Course, my example of a good fight is Celebrity Death Match, so my view might be a lil skewed.
The war on terror and the war in Iraq are two completely seperate things. Man are you fooled by the Bush administration
Goddammit, I hate it when people are like "You got duped by the Administration!". It's basically saying that people are too stupid to form a wrong opinion on their own.
The war in Iraq is the war on terror. Wake up! Who do you think is setting off car bombs? Man are you fooled by the conspiracy theorists/libral media/seasame street/that fat guy you chat with nightly on Mirc....ahh hell, you are just fooled!
I watched it ..and thought it was good.. i was with Bush till they got onto the nuclear 'stuff' then i saw a man flustered and not comftable.. kerry looked and spoke confidently. I guess someone actualy dealing with it (bush) and a man thinking about it (kerry) i can give bush a bit of slack for not wishing to give the opposition and the media lots of stuff to critsise. kerry reminded me of uncle albert (ofah) always going on about the (vietnam) war... and how because he was there he knows best .. well things are diffrent now ... time to change the record.
'Terrorism' is a tactic. Like guerilla warfare, propaganda or infiltration and assasination. It is causin as much destruction as possible to further a political idea. With that said, you're saying the war in Iraq is a war on terror after the fact. When we 'liberated' Iraq, all the borders of the country were left completely open, allowing unrestricted travel into the country. So, terrorists could jus flow into the country unchecked. Also, these people are fuckin pissed that a large Western country jus came in an said that they were free.
I repeat, Bush ignored the Clinton administration and Richard Clark warnings of Osama bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S. until it was too late. Prior to the 9/11 attack (which had nothing to do with the country we went to war against) Bush did nothing to prevent any terrorist attack. What he did was campaign for his 1.3 Billion dollar tax cut for the wealthiest 1% of Americans and then he went on a month long Texas vacation. One week after that, Al Qaeda sent or own commercial airplane into the Twin Towers and about 3000 Americans died as a result. Bush Failed. Guess what, the North Koreans were not developing Nuclear weapons under Clinton's watch and Americans were inspecting their Nuclear power facilities. Since Bush took over and broke off the treaty agreement we had with the North Koreans, they kicked us out of their country, started making Nuclear Weapons to defend themselves against us, and told us that if Bush invades them, they will use their NUCLEAR weapons to turn all of America's cities into a "Sea of Fire". Considering what Timothy Mcveigh was able to do with a truckload of fertilizer, The North Koreans probably can make good on their promise. What stockpiles? Prove that Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction. They are killing U.S. Soldiers with small arms and improvised bombs that you could make with things found in any hardware store. There are certainly no NUCLEAR Weapons and they were not a clear and immanent threat to the U.S. The invasion was about oil. Do your research. Maybe they want us off of their land and want us to stop stealing their oil. Most Iraqis say that they felt safer when Saddam was in power. Just because you happen to be making money does not mean that most Americans are. 1.3 Million Americans have dropped from middle class incomes to below the poverty level. Even most Americans who are lucky enough to have a job have seen their wages stay the same or drop, while the price on just about everything has risen because of King George's False Energy Crisis back in 2001. It cost a lot more to put fuel in your car to drive to work, and it cost more to businesses to have anything shipped. With the oil climbing to all time record highs of $50 a barrel because of Bush's Failed Middle East policy, it doesn't look like the economy is going to get better any time soon, http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/08/60II/main535732.shtml While Clinton was President a total of about 22 Million jobs were created after you count those lost. http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-index.html Since Bush has taken over, their are so many jobs that have be out sourced to other countries and so many lay-offs, that he is about a million jobs in the hole. There are more people and less jobs since Bush took over. The stock Markets have not reached any new highs since Bush took over. While Clinton was in office, the Markets all tripled in value and went up every year.
I know a retired military officer with 20+ years of service. He voted for Bush in 2000, but ended up "on the fence" over the last few years. He was still undecided up until the debate. After Bush's "saying something makes it true" idiot act the other night, he's now campaigning for Kerry, has met up with the dems leading the Kerry campaign in his town, and has a new Kerry sign in his yard. More than one-third of troops called up for another tour have refused duty and are facing possible courtmartials for desertion. To Bush supporters: Support our troops: stop killing them by using them as pawns for your television entertainment. Causing them to hemorrage while screaming in agony sends them the wrong message, to put it in Bushthink terms.
The war in Iraq is the war on terror. Wake up! Who do you think is setting off car bombs? That's the proof that the invasion of Iraq was necessary? We had to go over there to fight the insurgency that sprung up as a result of it? I'll assume you're not so completely mindless as to believe your circular "logic," but that only leaves one possibility:tht you're that much of a traitorous killer of American GIs.
I work in sales, and I am making plent o money Good. If the military won't let you enlist, you'll be able to afford a plane ticket to go over there and fight as a freelancer. I don't think you will do that, though. Your enemies believe in their cause more than you believe in yours, or you'd already be over there.
"There are certainly no NUCLEAR Weapons and they were not a clear and immanent threat to the U.S. The invasion was about oil." About that. . . I JUST got back from a haircut. The barber likes to tell us what he hears from his other customers. One of them was near iraq, doing uh. . . something, I think some type of business thing. I was kind of out of it for the first part of the conversation, but I started listening at that point, and according to the barber, the guy TOLD him the whole thing is about oil. Here's how he put it: "We're not there to GET the oil, but to protect it". Which makes sense, but in the end is the same as getting the oil. I mean. . . Why would we protect it if we weren't planning on using it? The guy also apparantly was not at liberty to tell what country he was in.
The only reason I support Kerry is because I hate Bush. I was really impressed on how well Kerry did in the debates, though. Supposedly he (Kerry) has been debating since he was 12.
Wait, you are on a hippie forum and you hate someone? That is odd. Why do you "hate" Bush? I don't agree with Kerry but I certainly don't hate him. So much hate, what a hypocrite.
I'm not a hippy and I'm here. Does that make me wrong. Nope. Anyways, Kerry did do a really good job at the debates. Bush looked like he has a slight temper problem. I think if he can dish it, he should be able to take it. Looks like that's just not the case though. He gets angry when he gets directly attacked.