There is a heretical tradition regarding The One many, who say they are believers, seek to follow, He Who is "The Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD". Seems there is undeniable proof that the traditional name of 'jesus' was not The Messiah's GOD given birth Name in any language! And proof exists in not just one, but all New Testament Greek manuscripts from which catholic and christian translators created their version of the "bibles"! Yes, undeniable proof! First, the Greek word "Iesous" was used by those who translated the Greek Septuagint, which was the Hebrew to Greek translation of the Old Testimonies. In the Greek Septuagint, which was translated prior to the birth of The Messiah, the Greek word "Iesous" was used to represent "Joshua, son of Nun, so named by Moses". (Numbers 13:16) And so it was established that the Greek name "Iesous" represented the Hebrew name Yehowshuwa'(translated as Joshua in the English language Old Testaments). Then in most all the New Testament translations, from the various Greek manuscripts, the word "Iesous" was translated correctly as Joshua(Yehowshuwa') in both Acts 7:43 and Heb 4:8 and then the same Greek word "Iesous" was traditionally translated as the 'jesus' in all other places in the English language New Testaments ;-( However, in the original kjv(aptly named as king james' version for it was of the church OF england) those who did the translating of the New Testament decided to rename Joshua and declared the Joshua of the Old Testament to be of the same name as their "imag"ined 'jesus' in both Acts 7:43 and Heb 4:8 ;-( At least the translators of the kjv were consistent, yet the result of such consistency is confusion ;-( And so it was that a heretical tradition was established ;-( Now if one wishes to take liberty and change the name of the Old Testament "Joshua" to 'jesus', well that is their choice, yet a sad choice indeed and Truth ;-( And worse yet you could accept the lie that the Greek word "Iesous" represents both "Joshua" and the catholic and christian 'jesus' which would be of babel ;-( I have been and know that i will yet be accused of having my portion with the "sacred name folk" or some other similar religious group. And yet that is as far from Truth as one could be for i believe that, "that which decayed and waxed old" did indeed and Truth "vanish away" with the destruction of the earthly, natural kingdom that was centered in old jerusalem. The Kingdom of GOD is now Spiritual and the body of a believer is the Temple for the indwelling Spirit, The Spirit that leads believers on The Way to The Truth of The Life. Sadly, many will say that the name of The Messiah is not important ;-( When a man makes such a statement to me i simply reply, "ok, if that's what you believe Martha" or if it be a woman, "ok, if that's what you believe George"....... Truth is important, for apart from Truth their is nothing but "confusion and every evil work" and Truth IS that the "imag"ined name of 'jesus' was not spoken for more than 1400 years after The Only True GOD raised The Messiah from among the dead! Prior to that time there was no 'j' sound in the English language, which is verifiable in most any encyclopedia, and there never has been a 'j' sound in either Hebrew or Greek. Seems the vain "imag"inations of the "catholic" and "christian" systems of religion have caused "The Way of Truth to be evil spoken of", so why continue to use their "imag"ined name for "The Son of Living GOD"? And so it is i am sad for all yet held captive by the "strong delusion" of such a tradition ;-( Yet there is hope! For Miracles do happen! Hope is there would be those who would experience The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The Truth"! Truth IS, Yahshua(Joshua in modern day english) is The Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD! Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this wicked world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"(1Jn5:19) indeed and Truth....... francisco
there was a time when names meant something....... why would The Creator, HE WHO is The Only True GOD, Father of ALL, why would HE give a meaningless name to HIS Only Begotten Son? and some five hundred, or so, years past the "imag"ined, meaningless name of 'jesus' began a time of confusion, delusion, deception, seduction, manipulation, perversion, and every evil work, that will eventually destroy (land, air, water, creatures) and pervert(Truth, Love, Peace, Hope, etc) all of Creation ;-( sadly, today "Truth lies dead in the streets" ;-( yet there is hope! for Miracles do happen! hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The Truth" for they will "see" The Light that is Yahshua(Joshua in modern day english) The Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD! peace, in spite of the dis-ease(religon) that is of this wicked world for "The WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one"(1Jn5:19) indeed and Truth....... francisco
whatever name you give something, isn't it still the same thing? why would God give him a meaningful name, as opposed to meaningless name. Whatever he named him, wouldn't he still be the same thing? Whatever we call him today, isn't he still the same thing? If I go around and start calling chairs tables, do they turn into tables? does their essence change? no. names are nothing. a cheap label so that with words we can identify the real thing.
sadly, names mean nothing for those who have not received "a love of The Truth" ;-( and so it is that pagan catholicism and her pagan christian daughters have billions of adherents who but follow their "imag"ined 'jesus' on the broadway(untruth) to destruction ;-(
Go look in the mirror. Insert name. The messiah will come, through each person in time, as they're ready to recieve it. The messiah comes from no external source. Never has. x
Spirit is within, yet without, everywhere at all times in all places. when one receives "a love of The Truth", one receives of that ONE and SAME Spirit The Messiah received.
a rose IS. sadly, 'jesus' is of mankind's "imag"ination ;-( and will forever remain but an image ;-( and all images are Anti-Messiah indeed and Truth! Yahshua(Joshua in modern day english) is The Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD!
... gotcha ... ! Edit: Wait-a-minute ... you said you haven't used your Yahoo account in over 90 days? The original post (copied from alt.christian.religion) was posted 9-June-2008, and your post was 16-June-2008 ... I guess that doesn't make you the original poster then. ? HTML:
