When I went through they sent you to seps over on the NTC side. Medical discharges took forever, drugs and thugs, 5-7 days...but I was there during the crunch. I fought my discharge, spent 11 weeks in seps and now have 8 days shy of 8.5 years active duty. Sorry you couldnt join me. Navy has been good to me. I am choosing to move on at the end of next august, but I feel we are parting as friends. I hope your med board progresses quickly.
OP couldn't handle Navy boot camp..... ahahahaha That's hilarious. Haha. How hard can it be? And you're 26? I can only imagine why you were the center of attention after reading this thread.
Navy boot camp is rather pathetic really. Basically this is what you need to pass: The final PFA 1.5 mile run (SIT UPS AND PUSH UPS DON'T COUNT BECAUSE THEY PARTNER YOU UP AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO LIE FOR EACH OTHER.) I didn't take the final PFA so I don't know if there is a way they will let you cheat the final run. I wouldn't be surprised though. I might have stayed in if they told me because that was one of the things I was concerned about because I was one of the most out of shape people in my division and failed the first two which is pathetic. Three tests on the computer (VERY EASY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ A FEW CHAPTERS OR PAY ATTENTION IN CLASSES OR PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PETTY OFFICERS WHEN THEY GO OVER IT WITH YOU BEFORE THE TEST.) Other than that, in between lying on the floor for three hours, they will tell everyone to get up and get ready for chow, a class, a 15 punishment (lol), practice making your rack, etc. The hardest part of boot camp are the first few weeks where they beat the shit out of everyone. About half way through it is very easy. I must point out standing watch is a bitch. They want you to memorize crap and that is when they quiz you on it. They will ask you something like what is your fifth general order? If you don't know or you sound wimpy then they will yell at you because you are supposed to sound off and challenge those who confront you while you are on watch/guard at the door of the division compartment. (I purposley wrote "lol" in the deck log early on in boot camp while standing watch and they never made me stand watch again, ROFL!) I social engineered my petty officers to be light on me in many cases so I doubt that will work for everyone. Part of the game is to get them on your side and then you will have a much easier time in boot camp. Try and get to know them and manipulate their weaknesses when they want to help you. Do that by being a good person and appear to be incompetent. I swear to god I will never forget the look on one of my petty officer's face when one day he saw how fucking brilliant I really was when he quized me personally and i got it all correct after pretending for so long to be a total tard to get out of doing shit. Do not feel bad about doing this. A lot of what they will tell you can easily be a lie. They lied to us a lot and manipulated us to act the way they wanted us to. It's a mind game. I love talking...:leaving: I'M NOT A 313/homosexual!
My son is currently in Ship 17. He developed asthma after the 1st week (never had asthma before - must have been the plant life/humidity/etc. in that area). Anyway, we've had no contact with him since he's been in. Father's day was yesterday - no call. This young man just graduated college on the Dean's List. It's not fair to put him in a situation where he can't get home and can't call home. We're rather frantic to find out what's going on and when he'll be home. Why is this happening to a young man who just happened to get sick/medically discharged? Why is he being treated like a prisoner??????????
Your son is being taught to make choices and being groomed to be an American Patriot with individualism. He is learning who he is and being taught dicipline which todays young men lack. When he is ready he will contact you. He has to abide by rules and regulations. That is protocol. Outside influence or interference is not what he needs now. He is the property of the United States Military now and is not a civilian anymore. Let the young man complete his training and then go see him at graduation where you can celebrate your sons soon to be contribution to his country by protecting the US constitution and freedoms and interests of America while fighting the war on terror. The country needs men like your son. God Bless your son for joining and god bless America. He is in good hands.:cheers2:
shut up you conservative shit. The constitution means absolutely nothing today. Neither does our warped idea of freedom.
You will soon grow into young man and learn that the Constitution is far more than what you think. I urge you to join a ROTC program that will familiarize you with the military and patriotism for your country. You will undrestand the importance of freedom and the sacrifices generations of American Soldiers have made to ensure YOUR freedom. Faith and Family Conservative values are what holds this nations core value system and should be instilled in every American household. Join the ROTC if your school has one and get structure from it. As you grow into a mature adult you will understand what it means to be an American and all the benefits it has. Your far to young to understand right now without the proper education and dicipline. http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/high_school_students.jsp
Jah I am from australia. I have studied war far longer than you have been alive I detest war. The US constitution.. even in its watered down state as it exists today. Is still the greatest human document ever conceived. And the Soldiers, sailors and airmen of the US armed forces. While being badly used.. cannot be blamed for being so.. they must go where they are told or it all falls appart in a fiasco of blood and death. To disrespect a man for being part of a system that is being misused. is not too bright of you. I might suggest you, are being conservative in your attitude . Kicking back on the system is as old as humanity. why not offer an alternative.? occam
Dear Sir, he's not being taught anything right now - he's only waiting for the medical discharge paperwork to come through. My gripe is that it takes so long to get him home so that he can see his own physician. There will be no graduation - he's out but they won't let him come home.
I was on thar ship and i ordered a kfc on the way but unlucky i crashed into a ice burg.lucky i ordered the super size chickin wing and drifted away to shore
Good old KFC, saves the day once again. Everybody that loves KFC leave a post. KFC,KFC,KFC,KFC!!!!!!! YEEEEEEE
All I can say is, honestly, what did you expect from boot camp? *American flag unfurls* The folding and hovering with your stamp and doing exactly what your told and nothing else is called CONDITIONING. It's designed, from the first second you get there, to break down any barriers you may have between your then unruly mind and the ability to focus on details and follow orders. *The Battle Hymn starts up* Was it really that hard to understand that? And what did you get separated for? Was it because you couldn't handle boot camp? You talk all this shit about what's BS, but you couldn't see it as that and suck it up? Your chief said 'at least you tried'? YOU didn't. And you talk about legal house like it was some kind of penintentiary. Alpha and Bravo-Tac were exactly the same, man. I spent time in both. Yeah, I popped the piss test, so what? You said piss-poppers are useless to the Navy? Up until a few years ago, EVERYONE in the Navy could have given a shit about weed. The new CNO said zero-tolerance, so it was zero-tolerance. I even talked to the CO and she told me she'd help me fight to stay in if I wanted, but that I'd most likely lose because of that. I would have been 5th generation military, I have 3 years of Navy ROTC and a 98 ASVAB. I can go back, and I plan to. I get another chance, because I was the best kid in my division, I didn't even have a chance to prove myself in the fleet, and again, the government could give a shit if got high on my last before shipping out. I'm useless to the NAVY? Whining, sub-human, non-hacking, double-digit IQ, knuckle-draggers like yourself, who spell 'you' 'u' are useless to our Navy and our country, and should be sterilized. I'll be sure to look you up if I need a burger. *catches breath* *battle hymn of the republic dies down* *steps down from soapbox*
Dude, this isn't a recruiting station. I think military discipline would be great for any one in my generation, but it isn't my place to tell anyone that.
Who are you to say what should be instilled in every American household? Isn't the point of our great country the fact that anyone can come here from anywhere and believe in whatever they want? It's a mans right to go to hell however he wants, is it not? Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins, does it not? And you know, you sound sort of like another guy who wanted certain values instilled in every household. http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/08/08/hitler460.jpg
As Odysseus said War is young men dying and old men talking. The old men hide behind children. That is their tactic [ stalin/ Mao/ Kitchener/Hitler/Macarthur] They are the first to say an orphanage was bombed by the enemy. [and no-one gave a shit about the orphanage till it was bombed] Fate it seems, is not without a sense of irony. Occam
Yeah, I am one of Those people that were sent to ship 17. I am ashamed, and I will never volunteer myself ever again.
I joined the navy cause I didn't know what I wanted in life. I got there and found that navy bootcamp was really easy but really boring. Spending the first few weeks not do anything, folding and stowing folding and stowing. Like I said navy boot camp was easy finding i had and anxiety disorder wasn't. I was sent to ship 17 and processed out. It took forty days exactly because my paper was lost. Seperations sucked in certain ways because you didn't have alot of basic freedoms, bu the fact is there were even less freedoms in a training division. The worst thing i would say was that every once in awhile there were some legitimately disturbed people coming through in the forty days that i was there four people attempted to commit suicide. If i was going to change seps i would make a rating system for the severity of peoples disorders and give priority to certain individuals. I'm glad my papers were lost instead of someone, perhaps, less stable than myself. Above all I am thankful that I discovered my anxiety at boot camp rather than at sea. I guess thats ultimately what basic training is for. A proving grounds for sailors-to-be. The worst part about being seperated is coming home looking everyone in the face who supported what you were doing and believed in you. If your faced with seperations, do everything you can to stay in and protect your honor. It's not easy to gain back, but of course if its not meant to be its not meant to be. "We believe in something to justify our experience with it."
