Ok now, first off, I'm not a user of amphetamine or methamphetamine, I'm pretty sure I've had it in an E pill before, but I would certainly prefer my E with more mdma and other psychedelics than any amphetamine. I've had ADD medication prescribed before for a short period in my life as well so I know what that is like too. But I am not a fan of amphetamine at all. But anyways, from reading about amphetamine and methamphetamine, is it just me or does the list of effects, side-effects and health problems seem to be exactly the same between the two. I read somewhere that methamphetamine has a stronger effect. But the article wasn't too specific and this could of easily been mentioned because street meth is consumed in pure, non-time release, form or smoked, so it would have a stronger rush. But among this I read that methamphetamine is actually naturally occurring in some plants. While yes, most street meth is synthesized off chemicals because it's the cheapest and easiest way, but it can also be extracted out of plant matter. I also read, methamphetamine has a better effect than amphetamine, that it's more euphoric, pleasant. Then furthermore, there is actually a form of methamphetamine available by prescription, Desoxyn, but it's not exactly meth, but rather a side analog. Alright now, let me get all conspiracy theory here. Truth is, the forms of amphetamine that the pharmaceutical companies come up with, or any chemical, is not done because they improve the chemical or make it safer. It's done because they cannot patent naturally occurring chemicals. The reason new prescription amphetamine comes out is because, the patent runs out and they need a new analog to patent. The pharmaceutical companies are not making all these analogs of amphetamine and avoiding methamphetmine because there product is safer or better. They are doing it quite literally, and only because, they cannot patent methamphetamine and the older amphetamines are no longer patentable. Now lets just get a little absurd here, given that methamphetamine is supposedly stronger, is naturally occurring, has a better effect, has all the same effects and side-effects of amphetamine. It seems like if one were to go to prescription amphetamines, why not go to methamphetamine (Desoxyn?) You could take smaller amounts of it for more effect with absolutely no more issues than amphetamine, perhaps if the thing about it being stronger is true, you could potentially have less side-effects because you would need less of the chemical. Given all that, think about the huge campaign against METH. They call it METH, give it the worst rap possible, make everything about it out to be horrible. Albeit, it can destroy lives, but what irresponsible person combined with a drug doesn't end up destroyed in some sense? I've seen people go downhill just from being able to get prescription amphetamine so easily for claimed ADD as well. I'm willing to bet, the reason theirs such a strong media campaign against METH is because if people actually found out METH is just as safe as their prescription amphetamine, possibly better and is cheaper. Who the hell would want prescription amphetamine if there addicted to adderall or something? Oh because, it's prescription and sanctioned and specifically engineered for the purpose? No it's engineered only so that they can patent it and make money off it. It's branded and prescribed so people think it's safer and more legit than METH and others don't look down on them because they can say "its prescribed". Albeit, the fact its prescribed and watched by a doctor does force some responsibility about it. And the prescription pills are engineered to be time-release. But my point is, the only difference between the media portrayal between this website http://www.methproject.org/ and this website http://www.adderallxr.com/ is because they could not patent METH. Freely open circulating, well synthesized meth, thats available and legal would pose a threat to the amphetamine pharmaceuticals. It's in the interest of perhaps one of the largest legalized drug industries to make their naturally occurring, cheaper, better opponent seem like the most evil thing existence.
Methamphetamine is far stronger and therefor morer addicting than amphetamine. Amphetamine is quite fun, but meth is just on another level. Methamphetamine provides EXTREME levels of everything that amphetamine does. Meth isn't the danger though, it's the people who manage to get their hands on it and will do anything for more because their lives might suck that bad. There is pharmaceutical meth. It's called Desoxyn. Because of the stigma meth has attached to it, it's never, ever prescribed. It produce a much higher level of euphoria than amphetamine itself, and amphetamine does the job just fine (for ADD meds), so why prescribe something that's so fun? That's the mindset of America =P
my doc was ganna give me Desoxyn but i asked for adderall instead. cause when he said he was ganna give me meth i was like oh shit!
mdma is an amphetamine dude. and not all adhd medication is time released. i guess you didnt know but you can buy the l-isomer of methamphetamine over the counter as vicks inhalers. its not as active as the d-isomer, and to add more to your conspiracy they felt it necessary to change to name to levmetamfetamine on the lable. why would they do that? i dont think theres any conspiracy, but you do, so i thought id humor you more.
Actually it's beacaue they're total dorks. Can't we just do the drugs and skip the Vicks and the pacifiers? My god children. LMAO
Well it was kinda nice, one of em gave me a massage and moved all these lights around in front of me at the same time while the vicks was going. I thought it was a kinda gesture, thats not childish
That kinds crap would drive me crazy. Again, I just wanna chill the F out and not make such a damn production of getting high. To each there own, that's what it's all about.
pacifiers are kinda dumb lookin, i always use a mouthpiece like a dentist uses, that simply separates your teeth. But as for vicks, HELL YEAH BABY! nothin better than having someone blow that in your face in the middle of a good roll. (with youre eyes closed of course)
when I used to do xtc, people would blow vicks into your eyes. shit would boost you, as well as inhaling it intranasally. but the truth about xtc is, its almost meth. what do you think the MA in MDMA stands for? MDMA = MethaleneDioxyMethAmphetamine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats like saying 'the truth about xtc is, its almost methalenedioxy. what do you think MD stands for?'
the truth about most elements is that they're almost other elements. but they're not. and the kind of discussion going on here is the exact reason why street meth is more dangerous than prescribed amphetamine. this is not an attack on anyone's intelligence, but none of you are chemists, right? and it's people who are not chemists that are making street meth with the kind of logic that says the difference between meth and mdma is a few letters.
how many people have you heard about that have ruined their lives on methalenedioxy? I'm just saying if the name of ecstasy has methamphetamine, its gotta have somewhat similar effects of methamphetamine. Of course Im not saying its the same, never. But its just obvious that they are related, like in the way oxycodone and oxymorphone are obviously related, or morphine and diamorphine. Is just obvious. Please, no flame intended. Pookie heads please dont wild out on me lol.
That's why they're at a fucking club, to dance and act crazy and wild. Some people don't like to just "chil the F out" when getting high.
I gotta agree with him, to each his own. is that not the general mentality of the drug culture, to be able to do what you want to your own body? The Mushroom Man
I'm not talking about a club. I'm talking about festivals and or raves. What I mean by chill the F out is not using Vicks, a pacifier (omfg), or any children’s play toys. Dancing and acting crazy is all good in the hood. I consider that chillin the F out. Some people require toys and other crap when they're high. I guess you can't help children liking toys though.
i consider the world my toy. guess that just makes me a big kid. and hey, goku, did you really just put two and two together about extacy and meth? well i bet you didnt know it, but both are amphetamines, and all three are phenethylamines, and the four of those are amines. its just how it goes man, everythings related. and depending on where you live, a lot of street meth, especially crystal, doesnt come from just some random guy, it comes from mexico where they make it in factories.
