Rape a way of life for Darfur's women

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gravity, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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  2. forrealz

    forrealz Banned

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    I know things are fucked up there.But Americas responsibility is to take care of its own citizens first.Sorry for the non politically correct answer.
     
  3. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    Yes.

    Please, stay the fuck away from Darfur and let them handle their own shit.
     
  4. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    When is letting them "handle their own shit" , turning a blind eye?
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    You can feel touchy feely about this all you want. You can even donate money to corrupt charity organization and feel like you're actually making a difference.


    The second that you try to actually stop it is when it all goes wrong.
     
  6. st. stephen

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    as much is it sucks to say and here, there really isn't anything to do. its heart breaking and one of the saddest things on earth but the second we try to intervene (as history has shown as time and time again) things will just go to absolute shit. if we think things are bad now, imagine it after we throw in our troops into the shit. im surprised by how many ant iraq war democrats are for sending our troops into darfur. does no one ever learn
     
  7. lode

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    How much closer "to going all wrong" are genocide and ethnic rapings to purify minorities can things go Pavel?

    There are a lot of things other than invasion we could do. And we're not doing a one of them.

    You have no idea of the politics of the region. You're grandstanding on principle of non intervention doesn't measure up to the realities of the conflict.

    I believe if you spent a day providing aid there, you would change you would be less caviler.
     
  8. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Some, after these things are known about, talk about how a particular situation was ignored. I just wondered how long that was?
    Why does it all go wrong if it is attempted to be stopped or atleast addressesd. You also do hear those under such dispicable situations, asking for help. Who then helps, if we are supposed to turn the other cheek.
     
  9. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    lets just send in the united nations troops,makes sense to me,, let them do all the raping,,hell they will throw some child molestation in for free..

    i here there very good at it...
     
  10. lode

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    Well eventually the ethnic groups will be destroyed.

    Intervention should be our priority as humanity. When a nation commits genocide it surrenders sovereignty.

    I don't believe a military invasion is necessary in this case however.
     
  11. st. stephen

    st. stephen Senior Member

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    than just how do u plan to stop it?
     
  12. BraveSirRubin

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    Yes, honestly... how do you stop genocide without a military invasion?

    It's not like you can sanction them or such.

    (Even though it is still not on the brink of genocide)

    I guess you could insert a UN force, yet the UN are wankers.
     
  13. lode

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    The African Union troops should be brought in on a resolution where part of western Sudan is annexed as still a legal entity of the Sudan and has AU military troops providing security.

    If they don't agree, it should be done anyway, which yes, is essentially an invasion. They have another option which from most analysts I've read suggest, they would take.

    And if not, as I've said. When you sponsor genocide you surrender sovereignty. Was are costly but can be much less so than genocides.
     
  14. odon

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    I hope you are right.
     
  15. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Ugh. The worst of all of this is that the women are being raped by their own countrymen, their own soldiers, their own men who were plucked and put into a position where they are supposed to be there to protect them.

    It's a well known and tragic reality that when UN Peace Troops arrive to help cultural conflicts in Africa, they end up raping the women they also should be protecting. Look at the situation today in the Congo, Kenya, Uganda, South Africa and the UN Peace Troops there. Women are not able to report their rape crimes because who is going to believe that an international aid worker raped them? Which government will take their rape seriously, and how can they really identify their rapist? Who is there to protect them?

    They have teachers, coaches, militia-men, doctors and men in positions of power everywhere in these countries where women are not able to report their rape crimes because of the politics of their nation's governance.

    The Sudanese government is far from the exception.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Why was it ok to intervene in Iraq because Sadaam supposed destroyed his own citizens, and I put it this way because there has never been a full investigation the bombing of the Kurds may have been by Iran, but not ok to even call for sanctions against those responsible for the horrific conditions in Darfur. Is it the US corporate interests to allow this area to totally defeated and extorted?

    http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/bp173

     
  17. SpreadneckGA

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    Why doesn't the mighty UN do something? What a worthless group that is.
     
  18. Alter-Reality

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    oh yes. Just turn the other cheek. I'll remember that next time you're drowning and you're asking for help.
    We would want the same, wouldn't we? if you're in a trouble beyond your own control, wouldn't you ask for help?
    If I was being raped, i'd ask for help.
     

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