well sorry to make another post (my other was about that herbal mix with salvia in it). I just bought some 6x and an oz of leaves (possibly a bag of 5x will come too)... i have a regular pipe with a lid. im thinking i wanna take it a little easy my first time. so i am getting a friend to be my sitter and i have the following locations available: friends garage and a really small privatish park (its where people usually light up) i am thinking i should go to the park to smoke because of the cooler temperature. anyway i want to get to a 2-4 state... i plan to grind 2 leaves and put it in the pipe...should i smoke it like regular pot from there? also beforehand should i drink a lot of water or anything of the likes? thanks
I would suggest doing salvia inside in a comfortable room, but if you're COMPLETELY comfortable with the environment of that park, go for it. A garage may be a little uncomfortable. Where ever you are, make sure that you're sitting down in a way that if indeed you did lose control of your body, you wouldn't hurt yourself. Smoke it like pot - Take a big hit and make sure it goes way deep into the lungs. Hold it for at least 20 seconds. Then as soon as possible, take another hit, hold for 20, and do the same until the bowl is clean. It's important that you get as much salvia in you as quickly as possible if you're smoking leaves. There's no way to be absolutly sure that you won't go into a level 5, because everyone acts differently with different doeses. When you start feeling "different" I would stop and see what happens. You'd probably want some water with you the whole time, since taking in all that smoke is tough on the throat. Good luck.
thanks...and also will a regular lighter work with the pipe...should i just hold it over the bowl the entire time? or should i use a bbq bic lighter thingy majig....heh
I'm not sure.., with extract all you need is a regular lighter. With leaves people say a torch lighter is better, but yes, definetly touch the flame to the salvia and hold it there for a while.
A regular lighter will work, but torch lighters tend to be much more adequate, especially if you will be smoking out of a pipe. If smoking out of a pipe, it is CRITICAL that you take the largest hits possible and hold them as long as possible. If you don't do this, much salvinorin-A will be wasted and will smoulder. Smoking salvia like marijuana is possible, but VERY rarely done (effectively) due to the fact that the smoke is so harsh that it is virtually impossible to hold a huge, hot toke for at least 20 seconds; especially since salvia is much harsher on the throat than cannabis is. Most people prefer to use a bong, by a long shot. ONE decent bong hit on 6x will send you on your merry way, and it's an extremely efficient way of getting the effects. Plus, when using regular leaves, since effects come on in only about 15 to 45 seconds, it's tough to smoke enough regular leaves in such a small period of time to get very strong effects. That probably won't mean much for your first time (as you are only aiming for level 2-4), but for future reference, using a bong is the most common method of smoking (according to my research), being as the smoke is greatly cooled and can all be inhaled at a single time. Either way ... dress in loose clothes, free your mind, and pick a clean and preferrably well-lit place. And most importantly, Good luck and have a good experience. =)
hmm another question: is there a way to make the taste of salvia or any other smoke for that matter better tasting? like adding something (crushed up flavored rolling paper)
Add a drop of orange juice or something? However, you'll find that salvia, although harsh when not smoked out of a water-cooling device, is actually pleasant tasting and pleasant smelling; nobody really gets nauseous from it, unless it is purely placebo effect. I personally enjoy the smell and taste of salvia very much, and would look into buying salvia incense (the kind you burn and they smell good; not the pure salvinorin extract "incense") were it not for this blasted fire alarm attached to the ceiling. =\
lol... well tonight i probably smoked about 20 leaves with .5 g of 5x extract through a pipe (held the lighter down for each hit). i didnt really get high at all adn the most i reached was a glimpse of level 2 that couldve been my imagination because i didnt even feel level 1 much...but i did laugh...a lot. oh well better keep at it
That's the problem. =( all the salvinorin-A has to be consumed in a period of about 1.5 to 2 minutes, otherwise, the trip will not intensify at all; it will only last longer in duration. And it's hard to smoke 20 leaves in only 2 minutes ... especially through a non-water-cooled pipe. Try using a bong, and perhaps some extract (which will almost certainly help you reach the visual states).
well that was the thing...we took turns taking like 10 hits right after another big hits too, held in each for a good 20 seconds
Well ... see, you couldn't have taken 10 hits in sequence holding each for 20 seconds; you could only get about 4 hits during that time, and the actual leaves themselves tend to not have enough salvinorin-A in 4 hits to send you into that next dimension (though some people HAVE done it, it's much more rare). And I doubt the Advil had any effect. Now, I'm no biological chemist, so I could never know for sure, but I suspect that the Advil did nothing to interfere, as Advil is not psychoactive (to the best of my knowledge at least =P) and doesn't affect any of the areas of the brain that S. divinorum does (the kappa opiod receptors).
well thanks so much for all of your help man, ill try not to bug you as much im just a freak about this stuff but today at work i was seeing little glimspes of 2d patterns and my balance, etc was off. and at one point the walls almost blended together heh...
Salvia doesn't have after effects like that, hah. Either a placebo, or your coffee was laced with acid
