STICKY: lists of communities

ATTN: Oldwolf, can you make this a sticky?

I see a lot of messages here from people looking for communities. Here are some sites that have lists.

http://www.ic.org/

http://fec.org/

http://m.webring.com/hub?ring=ic

http://www.meadowdance.org/resources.htm


please feel free to contribute or correct!

 

Most of these have been in threads numerous times...and to tell you truthfully I don't like to encourage the normal laziness that is associated with computer users who would rather not research but want it all fed to them without any effort.
Intentional communities especially in start up demand a lot of effort....I suppose there are some out there that just want to continue fostering the co-dependent paradign, let us not join them.

 

sometimes it's just nice to be helpful. not everything has to be a lone wolf experience.

 

Exactly what I've been looking for, seeker!
Thank you for posting this here and keeping HF worth checking out!

 

well said old wolf..

i applaud you for telling it like it is..

hell theres a search button at the top of this forum and all anyone would have to do is a key word search and those links and more would come up..

besides anyone that searched google could find the same damn links within 3 key word searches..

to many slack ass wannabes "searching" for a commune or "dreaming" of starting a commune as it is..
if they want it they should have to work for it like the rest of us did..

quit expecting others to manifest it for you folks.. it takes effort on your part to accomplish your dreams..

quite frankly,,many of those who have been involved in the communal living experience for many years now are fed up with the mentality that seems to permeate this generation of communal living seekers...

once again,,. i agree with old wolf and applaud him for his decision..

 

I can totally understand where you're coming from HHB, having researched communal living, alt building, organic gardening and just about everything one would need to know to live a communal and/or self sufficient life. During my research, I had to try things out...build it, raise it, or grow it myself to see how it worked (or didn't). I have to say that I've followed a good many of your links through the years and have a great respect for what you're doing. Could I have found those kinds of links for myself? Sure I could ...and did. I have 15 to 20 different plans to build the same damn thing. I take the best ideas and designs and incorporate them to fit my need.

That being said...When I first started seeking a communal situation, I did a google search...and it brought me to hip forums. This was the first time that I had heard of this forum and it was my introduction to just about everything communal. I followed a great many links from here and those links helped me find new links and I followed those to other links etc... The point is that just because 90% of the people might just be lazy and probably don't have what it takes to do the communal thing, that doesn't mean that we can't point the other 10% in the right direction.

Coming back every so often, I can tell that the tone or attitude toward people that are new to communal living here has changed. There's a judgement that because someones not doing it right now, that they never will...I know your argument here, and I'm not in disagreement, there are a lot of idealistic fools that will never get beyond the dream of living in a field of pot and having food grow just by sticking seeds in the ground, or having it drop out of trees by the bushel. Just because these are the types of people that we seem to run into most of the time, (and these people are attracted to hip forums like bees to pollen) let's give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that someone somewhere stumbling through the forums might benefit from links like these.

Really, this is a communal living forum and I've seen way more inappropriate shit on here than those links.

Peace to you and yours, and keep posting your links...I'm not lazy, just don't always find the same stuff you do!

 

You know its easy to take computer literacy for granted. Hell, its easy to take literacy for granted, I know a few people who can barely spell their names. Seriously. And I know many more who can barely turn a computer on. I'm not exaggerating or joking.

Someone's inability to search or use the internet very well may have nothing to do with how motivated or hard working they are. Let us not judge another's intentions or consider ourselves the misers of information.

I'm not excusing the majority that are too lazy to search when they known darn well how. Chances are they will never make it anywhere anyway. At the least we might keep this forum tidier by preventing redundant threads.

Why shouldn't we put up a sign post for those who do need help just because we think they should already know the way?

 

i dont think anyone said those links were inappropriate..
i think what old wolf said,,and what i agreed upon was that they did not warrant a sticky..

as to the attitude towards newbies here changing,,i submit to you that that is due solely to people who have actually been involved in communal living as well as self sustaining lifestyles and not just dreaming of it finding this forum and participating in it.

of course one who has lived it is going to have a far different attitude than one who is only dreaming,and when those that havent a clue(the dreamers) attempt to tell we who have lived it how it should be done and how it will be and refuse to listen to the reality of what communal living as well as self sufficiency(IMO the two go hand in hand) is all about,of course it is going to create a different attitude here..
i dont think anyone here will make any apologies for there attitudes nor do i feel its warranted.

as far as someone being computer illiterate in this day and age,,come on? the chances of someone under sixty and over 10 being computer illiterate are slim to none in this day and age..

as far as the rest,,i think the reasons why he feels they are not warranted are valid..
theres really not much else to say here.. old wolf has made his decision and i would imagine,,that is that..

he doesnt strike me as one who will be swayed by your argument against his decision..
all the more reason i applaud him..

 

Although often crass your arguments are usually sound, but you've really stuck your foot in your assumptive mouth on that one. Come on over to my neck of the woods and I'll introduce you to a few.

 

i dont feel i have.. while there may be a small number still out there that are computer illiterate,i stand by my statement as i dont see how the number of truly computer illiterate in the age group i specified would be over 5%..

i also submit that those numbers would go down even further if you excluded the truly illiterate from that base..
after all,computers have been taught in schools from a very young age for many years now..

beyond those statements,,if one is truly computer illiterate i submit to you that they would not even know how to do a search to find this forum.. so why worry about appeasement of a group that would not even find this place to begin with?

 

I would agree with less than 5% of Americans being computer illiterate, but that is a little more than slim to none.

Obviously the completely illiterate aren't whom we should be concerned with.

I do agree that links like those are easy to find. Maybe there are other harder to find links that someone might share with us. I don't see why we shouldn't gather the useful information in one easy to find place in this forum.

I stand by what I wrote four posts up ^.

 

well i admire you for standing by your statement.. it shows conviction as well as character..

if its any consolation,as slow as this forum is,this thread will stay on the front page for a couple months..

as far as that goes if ya come in every couple months and add a link it should stay up indefinitely.. lol

i mean it goes back to what has already been said,,
if YOU really want this,YOU can take a little initiative and make it happen..

it doesnt take someone else doing it for you to make it happen.. in fact relying on someone else to make your wishes come true goes against everything communal living and sustainability is all about..

you have a great day...

 

I see that I may be sounding arbitrary to some...maybe a little clarification....I think it is important that people read posts that speak of what they might have to face in reaching for intentional communities....most of the links mentioned do not go into what is envolved...reading the threads in this forum you get some idea...better than just assuming.

And most here speak of getting together their own community...you hear this over and over....and specifically to those who think on doing this do i want to point out that they must empower themselves, and do their own thinking and seeking. To expect it to just happen....well I know of not 1 community that has come about that way....just many that never got beyond the hot air....and I would not mind seeing a bit less hot air and actual Doing.....and to that end I think that each needs to have a better idea about what is involved. Those links take you to existing communities, and do not speak to what is involved in start up...which if perusing these threads you get to see first hand....and how often people just talk about it but as soon as hardship raises it's head forsake the idea.....and that is a BIG challenge and 1 that each of us here should be helping to overcome.... No ?

And so i seek to help others empower themselves and not enable the idea that things come easily.....do you really want it, then you need to put real action into it.


Been on here since the beginning ....I try to keep a positive attitude but still feel the need to inject some wake up reality too.

Peace

have at it....i look at a moderators work, especially in this forum as the less interfering the better.....you all feel that you want something different, I won't fight you.

Blessings & Love


Namaste

 

lovin you old wolf..

 

I do apologize to the mod for the presumptuous title.

 

Well, whatever we think, we all get to be right, no matter what anyone else thinks about it. And if our experience proves to be unsatisfactory then at some point we may re-examine those convictions that we've so rigidly stood by.

 

The only ones who will survive are those that remain flexible...HOWEVER if the flexibility means that I am no longer True to Self....then I will gladly cross over ...because the only things that remain after all is said and done....Is were you True to what you Knew was yours.
Does not mean that I don't fall and fail in that regard, but that I will ever get back up and my Intent remains firm ... I will empower my own Self and remain True.
So mote it be.

Blessings & Love

Namaste

 

hhb, I'm seen you have a cheerful commune where no one is afraid to express themselves for fear of sour commentary. You seem such an open minded bright one, ever eager to nurture others and help them grow.

I was looking for commune list because I am moving to the west coast from FL and I don't have the time to poke around the internet because I am busy getting things done IRL. I could care less if this thread's stickied but it was helpful to me and I said so. Best of luck to you

 

my nurturing days are over and we dont nor have ever had a commune..
perhaps if you would brush up on your reading comprehension skills you would have realized that before you spoke.. lol

thanks for your snide comment,,all the more reason to stand by not opening our doors to people like you anymore..

 

the rest of us? I guess that doesn't include you then you are now saying otherwise.

You must live in a very dark world, hhb, because darkness emanates from you like a bad odour. How many have you bummed out since you've been here? Countless? How many young hipsters wandered off to other forums to avoid your bad vibes?

I agree with the hillbilly part but what is hip about you exactly? You don't seem to be actively seeking to play a role in becoming a conscious tool of the Universe and spread healing wherever possible but more into keeping others from soaring too high, mincing ideas and inspiration with bad news and belligerent, pessimistic comments.

I hope you understand someday how much more self rewarding it is to lighten another's spirits than it is to bum others out. The world isn't really as bleak as it may seem sometimes. Don't worry I don't plan on becoming active here again. There are enough assholes here already. I simply came here to find a list of communes and I did, thanks to the op.

Try something, once a day post something nice to someone else and see if it helps you feel a little love inside after a few days. The difference between arguing and debate is keeping your emotions at check. You have a light that could shine very bright as often as you post, hhb, but instead you choose to keep it real. namaste