I posted this same question on Salvia boards but recieved little response. So, would you recomend someone using salvia before shrooms (or acid), or the other way around? In Other words. If I want to try psychedelics, would salvia be a good way to start?? ? ?
It won't matter. Salvia is barely a psychedelic anyway, but nothing's gonna really prepare you for it more than reading about it.
its a good place to start if only because it is legal and readily available. that said, it isn't going to /prepare/ you in any real way for the classic psychs (LSD, mushrooms, etc), if that's what you're hoping. the experiences come from very different chemicals and are very different experiences. personally, i don't really see any advantage to using one before the other. they're both pretty crazy drugs in their own right. i prefer mushrooms simply because i feel like there is more to be learned from that state of mind.
salvia isnt really very psychedelic...its a dissociate and you do hallucinate, but you get none of the introspection of classic psychedelics (shrooms, lsd, mescaline, dmt, 2c's)
Salvia before shrooms worked out very well for me. It takes the edge off a bit before you start tripping. I found taking a few hits off of the 40x right after the come down will do the same as well.. One last hurrah before bedtime.
Are you talking about salvia during a come up of a trip? I took a massive rip of some salvia during a mushroom come-up. Fuck that. I'm talking super extended salvia trip which turned out to be at least an hour of complete unknown. Though i was in a dream. Had no connected whatsoever to the physical world. My body was functioning and reacting to a mind that was in another dimension. I was running around on the beach at 6 in the morning because my friends brother was a sailor holding a rubber duck, while we were floating 20 feet above a stormy sea in the middle of.. somewhere. While i had ducks and clams snapping at my feet... and then i just RAN. Ran into complete blackness filled with shear terrorr! Or salvia as a pre-psychedelic experience? Either way, if you can withstand an INTENSE salvia trip, you can withstand a decent dose of shrooms or acid like a peice of cake. I wouldnt say its any lighter on the mind. I would actually stay start out with shrooms or acid before you take up salvia.
ok salvia... When I tried salvia I had tripped on lucy many times, but at that point i had never shroomed... You will hear many different things about salvia about whether its worth it or not...this is my experience. I was out in the woods by a lake with some friends and it was nighttime, smoking. It was all chill, then all of a sudden I dropped to the ground (according to someone else). Everything became neon, the ground was neon green (like flouresecent) and the sky and trees were all neon/flourescent pink...there was a neon sign above me that said something very meaningful, but even immediately after the trip I couldn't recall what it was it said. I cam back to reality about five minutes later. Apparently the only thing I said the entire time was "If I stand up all the colors will go away" for these reasons I would say mushrooms. Although the five minutes I had on salvia were more visually intense than most of my shroom/lucy trips, but at the same time SOOOOOO MUCH SHORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd say choose one of the stronger and enjoy the Longer ride
i'd take your salvia and put it as far away from your equation as possible, salvia is primitive and the only way it is legalized because the us government understands the meaning of "drugs". Drugs destroy your ego, it bashes it down causing you to be riddled with stupidity aswell as malfunctions using language. Personal aswell as interviews with other people notice this absence of authenticity within salvia. So, I don't care, you could do it, but I just think its foolish.
I've tried salvia once, i saw some wierd things, and i didn't remeber being where i was after the come down. Nothing special but it was only the 5x extract, and you're supposed to use a torch lighter. Make sure you have a sitter. As far as shrooms, i've never tried them so i wouldn't know the difference.
and maybe some self-searching. also, the only benefit of salvia for an infant psychedellic user is legality(slowly decreasing) and it's short duration. have fun, do research and be careful.
Completely different experiance, is like asking wether you should try PCP before herb. WHO FUCK CARES Take what interests you most dumbass I say put the salvia down and drop some acid or shrooms, way better deal, you'll agree when you can see the difference from painfull repeat triangle land compared to your hands turning into swiss cheese.
I have not tried salvia yet, but I have done shrooms and LSD many times, the best way to try them for the fist time is to use a moderate amount. Dont eat a whole bunch of shrooms your first time, eat a little bit, see how you feel. Dont let your friends or anyone get you to eat a bunch, just take it easy your first time, then you will have a better idea of how much to take the next time.
I mean I have done salvia and shrooms at different times and unless you just want to fill the time before the shrooms hit you then I wouldn't see any reason to do the salvia at all, it won't react like mixing other drugs as far as I know, which is to about the corner store, but if it were me I would do the salvia coming down and I mean last minute come down because you could possibly have a bad reaction that way, but like many have said, there is no point, shrooms are good by themselves. Salvia is good for some, but nothing like shrooms at all. Oh and no salvia will not prepare you for shrooms because they are different, absolutely. Just test the shrooms out by low dosing, then raise the bar next time.
