question about the actual feeling of lsd

i tried 60x salvia and i got the whole weird funny feeling and some things made me laugh, but overall it wasnt very enjoyable, and the change of sense was weird.

if i take lsd, will it have any of the same effects? does salvia even give me any idea what acid will be like?

 

I havent done either of them but from what ive researched, salvia and lsd or shrooms are toally different because salvia is a dissociative and lsd is a psychedelic/

 

completely different!! the one time i tried salvia i was COMPLETELY gone for about five minutes, but had no problem with coming back to reality. I was there, but had no sense of what was real and what wasn't. I was GONE. On Acid I get COMPLETELY gone but in completely different ways, and if I am in a situation where i need to snap back into reality i am able to do that, and then quickly reenter my trip, i think this is rare though.
Each trip on lucy is different. I generally know I'm about to trip when my brain starts tingling, followed by giggles/laughter, and then the hallucinations kick in. The funny feeling (you mentioned), I am going to assume is the body trip, becasue I often get weird sensations. For example I sometimes really feel like my body needs to lay down, so I get in a comfy couch or bed, and even though I feel like i am sinking into the bed, i still have the desire to lay down. It's a bit bizzare. I love it, and thrive on learning more about myself and the world through the trip. and EVERYTIME it is quite enjoyable...
so it sounds like your salvia experience prepped your for the giggles and perhaps the body trip...but the hallucinations and changing from your true reality into another/multiple realities and back again not so much...
does this make sense?

 

I have no idea about the topic but ill give you a very hard fact.

 

Salvia is a joke, worst I have ever had, and it tastes like total crap. Search youtube for acid trip thats a good way to explain it, but its completely different for everyone.

 

Salvia and LSD have nothing in common.

 

no, just take it...

i always advise that you be in a good state of mind, in a comfortable environment with people you trust, and people who will take care of you just in case...

it sounds bad but i really dont advise researching it too much

 

I think a better attitude than avoiding research is to do a lot of research, but take all with a grain of salt. the psych experience is different from other drugs because it introduces you to yourself. because of that you can't apply everything you read to yourself. I recommend reading good and bad trip reports; it'll help you see what leads to each scenario, even though your experience will be unique. not researching or understanding the drug is more like rolling the dice; it might be great, it might be terrible. but it doesn't have to be a crapshoot. if you know what you're doing, there's no such thing as a bad trip. as for the body high; it can also be whatever you want. most people notice a pleasant electric buzzing in different parts of their bodies. it feels like raw natural energy that you can make into anything. if you want to feel love, you'll be overwhelmed by it. if you want to feel free and detached, there's an incredible feeling for that, too. acid is just like life, you trip on what you choose to trip on

 

LSD has a constant effect for an extended period of time: Intense visuals accompanied by in depth thoughts and ideas for upwards of 12 hours. My longest fry lasted for 2 days straight (though I had taken 12 hits). Your mind will go off on tangents, allowing you to explore every facet of an idea, thought, or concept. Should your lucy be potent enough, you may very well see what it is you're dwelling on.
Salvia, on the other hand, is a short period of utter insanity. Intense visuals, often inside of a trance (similar to DMT, but nowhere near DMT in intensity), and frequently uncomfortable sensations. I've smoked a range of salvia potencies, ranging from 15x to 80x, and at 80x it felt like my skin was being peeled off and wraped around the earth, which was stretching and sliding outward. Not always fun, but good to experiment with.

 

I agree with that part; we are all definitely in control of where our trip leads.

However, reading about bad trips...I don't think that's necessary. Before I took lucy for the first time I talked about it a lot with my good friends who were experienced with it. My best friend, who never pressured me into it, but answered any and all questions i had about it gave me this piece of advice, and I will pass it on. DO NOT READ THE DANGERS OF THE DRUG! Why? others might say thats the dumbest thing they've heard...

Every drug has dangers, fuck even alcohol can be incredibly dangerous. If you've read about a lot of bad experiences or potential things that could happen then even if you are ready, the moment you put it under your tounge you might start thinking about those things, which could lead to a bad trip...in my mind talk to people about it and read/focus on the good stuff. If you're at all worried don't take it yet.. but don't research the bad stuff!

 

^that's what I meant by "take it with a grain of salt." if you treat it like someone else's trip, that's the only thing it'll ever be. if you're the kind of person who sees a scary movie and has bad dreams from it, maybe avoid the bad trip reports.

One might say that exposing oneself to bad accounts plants a seed in that person for a bad trip, and another might say that you can identify what led to the bad trip in another's account, and can recognize a similar thing in your own trip, knowing that it's okay to downplay it.

Do it however you want. if shit gets to you, don't read trip reports. If you normally read a lot and can absorb information without identifying yourself with it, read the reports.

 

the best way to tell its come on is when you and ya mate are sitting there having dosed at the exact same time and you look around and then look at each other and say "I think the acids kicking in!" *insane giggles* haha

 

well, with salvia, i get an odd feeling which isnt really like a high but just a weirdness. will psychedelics do the same type of thing, or will i just feel (physically) good?

Also my friend is afraid that he wont ever think the same way. Some people say it opens their minds and becomes a life changing experience, but is that always good? I think he is just worried about it changing he perceptions in a bad way but I dont think it would...

 

It is powerful stuff. It definitely has the potential to be life changing in both negative and positive ways. I have learned a lot about myself and the world around me through the many journeys i've been on, and thus I think it has allowed me to grow and mold into a stronger person. However, I know people who have been negatively affected by it. I'm telling you this, because you're not the one that is worried, it's your friend... so I know someone who after one trip flipped his shit literally, couldn't be alone, and became constantly paranoid. He, however, was forced into taking lucy (which should never ever ever ever happen because that is just wrong especially because of how powerful it is). I know two other people who had tripped many times, but eventually went too far down the rabbits hole. One believed he was a reincarnate of John the Baptist...he dropped out of school. he is back in school and doing better, but there was a period in which i wasn't sure he'd come back. Another friend just did a sh*t ton multiple times and when i say a sh*t ton I mean half sheets at a time, and he began to believe he was a Prophet. he too, dropped out of school started reading his holy book everyday and even pointed out disciples. I haven't seen him since he dropped out and went back home...

These instances are rare, but yet very real and possible. Acid is NOT for everyone. I wish I could define the type of character capable of handling acid, but it's hard, perhaps impossible. If he's worried, I would advise him not to take it, at least not yet. One should only take it when they are confident in himself and the drug...

 

and even those instances^ sound hella cool, to me anyway.

and you're right about how it's hard to tell someone whether they would benefit from acid or how they would respond. it's such a personal thing. The only people I would discourage from taking acid are those with known mental instabilities or are on antidepressants or other mind drugs. Maybe LSD will be legalized for clinical/therepeutic use to benefit them as well

 

no fense man but if you havent done either prolly shouldnt shed any light on the subject. My friend says he hates salvia, but he forced himself to smoke bowls of 30x for a week. He said even tho Sally wasnt ghood to him she "taught him to hate the light that never ends". Lucy is the most benevolent force on this planet. She truely saved me from becoming an empty shell of a man. I didnt know my true self until i found Lucy. If you like salvia tho man than id say give lucy a try. HAVE A NICE TRIP!

 

remember. jump in with both feet or not at all. the last thing you want is to start tripping, realise your not ready and have a bad trip. best advice i can give you, be with someone that makes you laugh. because you will do ALOT of that.

hope it all goes well for ya! good luck!

 

No comparison whatsoever.
Completely different drugs with completely different duration and effects.
I speak with experience.
Leave the Salvia alone!