The Supreme Court endorses the personal right to own guns.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by The Scribe, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. Alfi

    Alfi Member

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    You gave up the right to own a gun when you said screw the law and broke it.

    And you are still breaking the law. Back to jail for you illegal possesion of a firearm.
    :eek:
    Hunting without a license?
    Another crime. Boy you sure know how to rack em up.
     
  2. Astrolog

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    There is no country in Europe that has better statistics for killing people each other on the streets. Check statistics:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence
    In USA is rather similar like in Belarus or Paraguay. But not as bad as in South Africa or Columbia.

    People are like their government. See what style of movies you have! Not like these from Bollywood huh? Waaay too happy, over sweeten, touchy and with dance!!!
    By the way: in India there is much less violence: almost 3x less.
     
  3. Creek

    Creek Apple Pie

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    She's A Crackhead.
     
  4. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    the big news here today is the new broader concealed carry law went into affect..

    pretty much if you have a CC permit now you can go ANYWHERE in the state free and clear..

    boy the anti gun nazis aint happy,,especially in atlanta where its now legal to carry on public transportation.. the spokesperson for MARTA was biting her lip when she said they would abide by the new law..

    LOL,,what fucking choice do ya have ya dumb bitch??

    god i love this state.. :)
     
  5. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    I consider this a great day for freedom
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    So do you people who think the Supreme Court ruling was a good thing not get it, or are you selectively choosing to not get it? The ruling took away your inalienable right as outlined in the Constitution and instead made it a personal right. I mean, how come so many people are so dense when it comes to this?
     
  7. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i told ya i agree with you,,its just not really a issue in this state..
     
  8. Astrolog

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  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I know. I was talking about some of the other people who are acting like it's some big victory for gun owners.
     
  10. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    well in essence it does open the door for more challenges of gun laws,,a sounder footing for litigation anyway..

    and face it,they have treated gun ownership as a personal right in this country for a very long time. is it really all that surprising of a ruling?

    it could have been much worse..
     
  11. Balbus

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    Likewise, England is running out of Englishmen, and as the population changes so will their cultural activities. Sad, Sad.

    I’m with odon, what do you mean?

    My ancestry is Norman French and Celtic Scot but I was born and live in the province of England (whose national dish is Chicken Tikka Masala) which is part of a United Kingdom but also a member of a European Union, while my passport tells me I’m a British national.

    And to make your statement make sense you would have to define what ‘cultural activities’ you see as being exclusively and typically ‘English’.

    And why is it sad if a society changes, in fact I’d argue that a it needs to change and adapt or die.


    **

    “The UK is no less of an entertainment-loving, fast food-gobbling nation of fat, degenerate slobs than the US is.

    Thing is (for those that could afford it) that description fits in well enough with the Britain of the past, even before the invention of the United Colonies (sorry states) of America. Just check out the prints of William Hogarth (who died in 1765), such as the Rake’s or Harlot’s Progress or beer street and gin lane.

    But that’s how its always been – in all countries at all times, from ancient Greece to a Daily Mail editorial some people complain about the degeneracy their time.

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    But back to guns – no, I think I’ve said all I can say on that subject, although I would point out that the questions I’ve posed for pro-gunners still remain unanswered.
     
  12. Balbus

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    A few musings

    The factors that help or hinder crime seem to be many social, economic, demographic and so on. Socio-economic hardship can easily translate into crime especially when accompanied by the feeling that some are not feeling the brunt as others so in unequal societies it is even more likely to translate into crime. Demographically older people commit fewer crimes (and less violent crimes) and contraception and abortion can reduce the likelihood of unwanted children being had by distressed or dysfunctional parents or being brought up by economically disadvantaged one parent families or in state care. The other thing is drugs, one of the things hat helps establish and perpetuate gang culture is the drugs trade.

    To me guns just seem a way of not talking about crime than trying to tackle it.
     
  13. flmkpr

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    never said i broke the law only that i was a convicted of doing so!

    i have the right to hunt without a licence on my property!

    the only thing i am in violation of is being in possesion of a firearm, witch never leaves my property! and very seldom leaves my house!

    i dont hunt i aquired these guns in anticipation of a coming sociatial breakdown! i can leagaly hunt with a bow or crossbow!

    it is verey easy to become a convicted felon, by no fault of your owen or some stupid circumstances,

    your 55? you have never been in a national forest with pot? felony!!

    that is not what i was convicted of just an example of how easy it is! peace!

    ps forgot to add that part of my reasoning in aquiring a firearm is i live in a rural area and sometimes it is neccessary to put down a desiesed or injured or unwanted animal there are very limited recources for these things hear if i call the sheriffs department or what would be considerd the humane scociaty the first thing they ask is do you have a gun?
     
  14. Astrolog

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    I'm going hunting...
     
  15. Doodle824

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    Agreed!
     
  16. MrFrosty

    MrFrosty Banned

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    I really don't understand the argument that having guns prevents the government from taking over the country. For one thing the government is dependent on its people in order to uphold the economy. Its more damaging to the government for its people to simply refuse work than mobilizing an untrained small arms movement. But people who entertain that argument are usually angry bitter people. look at the way and style they present the argument.
     
  17. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Actually it is by far more damaging to the people if people stopped working then it is to the government.
     
  18. phen0m

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    This ruling states that civilians can own firearms for "personal protection" or "self defense". Which means whatever "they" decide fits that description is what you can legally own. They could easily say that civilians can "only" own weapons for self defense, and limit how many firearms you own and what type. They may eventually narrow it down to: two shot shotguns, bolt action rifles, and low caliber revolvers. The problem is, when tyrannical governments take over, they first seek to disarm their populations to suppress any resistance to the new rule of law. Which means if we were ever attacked by an enemy, foreign or domestic, we would have only basic firearms with limited range and capacity.

    On the flip side, if they just left us the fuck alone, and kept the AR-15 in my closet out of this, then there wouldn't be any problems. In fact armed societies have less crime and little overt corruption in government.

    The second amendment states that we have the right to "bare" arms. Bare meaning, to show or brandish. This means that back then, to bare arms meant to wear your weapon on your belt. Only assassins and criminals made attempts at concealing weapons. So if you were found concealing a weapon you were arrested!

    In societies throughout history that "bare" weapons have VERY LITTLE crime. Who wants to act a fool when everybodys packin? Nobody.

    It's a common misconception that in the wild west days people just shot it out in the street. Although that did happen, it typically took place in towns run by "mobs" with little or no police presence (a town sheriff). In places with law and order; a judge, a court house, a sheriff with deputies, and an armed citizenship there was little, if any crime.

    I believe that it's Switzerland that has the best gun policy. Every abled body male is required to serve in the military, and when they are discharged they take their assault rifle home with them! It's not uncommon to see someone riding to work on their bike with an assault rifle slung over their shoulder.

    Conclusion:

    When citizens have guns there is less crime.
    When citizens are disarmed, they are either slaughtered by their own government or the criminals get all the goodies on the black market and run shit. Look at places like D.C where they just lifted the gun ban. Why do you think they have so much crime? Because they banned handguns. The fact is since the ban the crime in D.C actually INCREASED as it did in Chicago, and NY, and everywhere else that pull that bull shit.

    Check out the book Lesson from Lithuania. It's a history of governments disarming population to slaughter them, eventually.
     
  19. Elijah

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    i'm certain there's a catch to all of this somewhere.
     
  20. Astrolog

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    What gun do YOU have cowboy?
     

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