Okay... so I have plenty of experience with opiates (just pills). I have tried hydrocodone, oxycodone, tramadol, and codeine. The highest I have ever been is still on codeine... on only a little over 200mg of it, on top of that. THE ISSUE: I have only tried oxy once, and I did just under 20mg. Tonight my friend and I tried 45mg of hydrocodone and 30mg codeine. We both felt kinda okay for the first 30 minutes, and after that it just diminished... I felt 10 times better on the 200-ish mg of codeine, which doesn't make any sense. I even felt better with less than 20mg of oxy! This is the second time that what I thought to be a plentiful dose of hydrocodone has failed me. So all I have to say is FUCK hydrocodone. (and btw I had not done any opiates for many months due to difficulties obtaining them, so tolerance = 0) Can someone explain this phenomenon? EDIT: Oh, and I thought that I should add that we chewed them up a lot to make sure we were definitely getting the full 45mg.
Hmmm...technically, hydro is stronger than codeine, so this is a little weird. Definitely possible though. I guess it would have to do with how full/empty your stomach was, other drugs you were on (caffeine and OTC stuff included, as well as herbs), set and setting, mood, expectations, personal body chemistry, and absorption of the drug. I guess I could see how 200mgs of codeine could get you higher than 45 of hydro and 30 of codeine, but you should've felt something more than what you described, especially with a low tolerance and the fact that you chewed em. Hydrocodone is one of those weird drugs that induces wildly different responses in different people, so it could be that it's just not the drug for you... ...which just means more for me, lol
Once you get to the point of your experience with the difference of those opiates you mentioned, where I am at but a little more with the codeine, I gotta say the same thing. Hydrocodone is fucking terrible, its a wack high that I swear only lasted once. I fucking doubled my dose the second time I tried it and I was much higher on 150mg of tramadol. And that was my beginning with opiates, I did 15mg of hydro first, the next weekend 150mg of tramadol, and the next weekend 30mg of hydro. The last one was so shitty compared to the first one I felt like hydro was the wackest drug. I dont know if its natural tolerance to hydro, but it was very dissapointing to me as well.
Yeah, I had heard that from you before. At least I'm not the only one. I love oxy and codeine, so I'll just stick with those. Mainly just oxy
ive heard of this happening, but me personally i enjoy hydrocodone. but its like it just doesnt work for some people
its no surprise, hydro sucks. my friend gave me two 7.5's over the weekend, and they're just sitting in my pill bottle next to my dozens of bars. i dont know what to do with them, Im waiting to get some oxy or something and maybe I' ll pop them in combination with a stronger opiate. But hydrocodone by itself is wack.. Right now, Im drinking a few corornas and ate 2 xanax bars. Im feelin extremely relaxed and happy. Im wathcing a documentary on Colombia's cartel drug trade and jungles of cocaine protected by the FARC, Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia, or Colombia's Revolutionary Armed Forces, also known as the Guerrillas. Im gonna chill a lil bit, maybe pop one more bar is 20 mins or so... im outta beer... VIVA COLOMBIA!! SIEPRE PARA LA VICTORIA. VIVA LA REVOLUCION (LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!)
shit for me whenever i do hydrocodone 5mg can get me buzzed and 10mg fucks me up almost all day. i dont particulary enjoy the high tho its too intense for me. i guess im lucky lol, but i dont do hydro's at all anymore. VIVAAAAAAAAA LA REVOLUTION!!!
Well heck yea, codeine works great the first time you ever opiate. My first codeine experience when I was 11 felt like heroin. Now I could swallow 500 mgs and not feel it. Hydro is WAY stronger than codeine any way you slice it. The only variable that is at work here is tolerance. Ya can't compare codeine to hydrocodone.
Pretty much, codiene is weak as fuck, not that hyro is strong by any means especially in small doses. Just remember if you are taking more than four or five it's best to do a cold water extraction because the APAP will fuck up your liver.
a couple of my co-workers believe that 5mgs fuck them up when they are working... only time 5mgs does anything is when its mixed with a sixer :cheers2:
What do I have to do to be like that...? 10mg takes away some soreness after working out but thats it for me.
dihydrocodeine is 100-150% as strong as codeine...32 mg combined with 12.5 mg of ambien cr gets me fucked up, and i'll occasionally mix in a vico with that. However, after doing that for about 10 nights straight, none of the above gets me even the slightest buzz.
I used to do 60-90mg of MS Contin when I woke up everyday before school(high school) and I would be getting waves of pleasure all day but I guess I never had to up the dose to get the same effects. Oh and your liver cannot convert more than 400mg of codeine to morph in a single dose btw...
I take 10mgs then about 30 mins later I take 5mg more and Im felling as good as I want. All the while sipping jack and coke, but Not a lot of alcohol. Maybee the equivalent of three or four shots tops.
If I were doing that it would be like 20-25mg then 30min later 5-10mg and then the various Highballs that I drink. But I usually don't drink with my opiates, however I do like it.
I thought the ceiling for codeine was 240 mgs, could be wrong though. edit: just looked it up, and you are right. my b